Jeremy Jernigan
Cabernet and Pray
Cabernet & Pray is a podcast for people who still have questions about Jesus but have complicated feelings about the church and Christianity. Hosted by Jeremy Jernigan (a recovering megachurch pastor), each episode pairs a glass of wine with honest conversations about deconstruction, reconstruction, and what it means to explore faith outside the boundaries of the theological mainstream. If you've ever felt like your doubts disqualified you, or wondered whether there's a version of Christianity that can hold your questions without flinching, then you've found your people.
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Jeremy Jernigan
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Oct 14, 2026
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Episodes
#39: The Worst Chapter in the Bible 27.01.2025 30:29
What happens when the God of the Old Testament seems unrecognizable next to the Jesus of the New Testament? In this thought-provoking episode of Cabernet and Pray , we tackle what Jeremy calls “the worst chapter in the Bible,” Numbers 31. Together, we confront the shocking themes of revenge, violence, and divine commands that seem incompatible with the love of Jesus. With a glass of Sokol Blosser...
#38: Loving Jesus Too Much 13.01.2025 33:10
Can you love Jesus so much that it leaves others feeling unloved? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray , we unpack a poignant quote from A.W. Tozer’s widow that has sparked a surprising amount of debate among Christians. Join us as we dive into what it truly means to balance a love for God with a love for others, all while sipping on a gorgeous 2021 Archers Crest Pinot Noir. This episode will sure...
#37: Church in the Brewery (with Mark McKinney) 30.12.2024 1:10:39
Click here to watch the episode on video. In this episode, we explore the creative expressions of the church with Mark McKinney, an innovator who is challenging traditional church structures. We dive into the unpredictability of faith journeys, the critical need for true discipleship in modern Christianity, and the fascinating intersection of faith and technology. Mark shares his experiences...
#36: Star-Spangled Jesus (with April Ajoy) 16.12.2024 1:05:34
Click here to watch the episode on video. Today we're diving deep into the complexities of faith, politics, and personal transformation with our guest, April Ajoy. April, an author and content creator known for her book "Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith," joins us to unpack the deconstruction movement among white evangelicals questioning their support for...
#35: The Wicked Servant 02.12.2024 28:28
Click here to watch the episode on video. Interested in staying in one of our short-term rentals in wine country? Click here to see our two homes. In today's episode, Jeremy shares some exciting personal updates, including the opening of a second rental property in Oregon wine country, the charmingly named "Vino Victorian." But the core of today's episode dives into a profound and possibly controv...
#34: American Idolatry (with Andrew Whitehead) 18.11.2024 1:03:05
Click here to watch the episode on video. We're thrilled to have Andrew Whitehead, an esteemed professor of sociology and author of "American Idolatry: How Christian Nationalism Betrays the Gospel and Threatens the Church." In this episode, we dive into the complex world of Christian nationalism in America through Andrew's insightful lens. We explore the idea that changing minds often requires mor...
#33: Space Racism 04.11.2024 35:20
Click here to watch the episode on video. Want to join us on a wine and whiskey trip to Oregon? Find out more HERE . In this episode, we’re diving deep into the fascinating intersection of faith and technology, responding to your comments and critiques about our previous discussion on the ethics of robots. From accusations of irrelevance to insightful parallels with historical exclusion in...
#32: Tell Me When I Get There (with Sean Palmer) 21.10.2024 1:01:13
Click here to watch the episode on video. Want to join us on a wine and whiskey trip to Oregon? Find out more HERE . In this episode, Sean Palmer, author and teaching pastor at Ecclesia Houston, invites us on a thought-provoking journey discussing memorable wine experiences, evolving beliefs about wealth, and the pressing challenges facing Christianity in America. Sean reflects on faith, aging, an...
#31: Robot Theology (with Joshua K. Smith) 07.10.2024 1:06:37
Click here to watch the episode on video. Today we dive deep into the fascinating intersection of spirituality, philosophy, and cutting-edge technology with a very special guest—Joshua K. Smith. Josh is not just a cybersecurity analyst but also a theologian, former pastor, and insightful author. As we sip on exquisite wines—Jeremy with a crisp 2021 Rex Hill Pinot Noir Rosé, and Josh enjoying...
#30: Do You Still Talk to Grandma? (with Brit Barron) 23.09.2024 52:34
Click here to watch the episode on video. We're celebrating a significant milestone—our 30th episode! We talk with Brit Baron, speaker, storyteller, and author of the compelling new book, "Do You Still Talk to Grandma?" Brit reflects on her journey of evolving beliefs and personal growth, touching on the psychological concept of cognitive closure and how it shapes our decision-making and beliefs....
#29: The Space Between Us (with Sarah Bauer Anderson) 09.09.2024 1:09:56
Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome to another episode of "Cabernet and Pray." In today's episode, we sit down with Sarah Bauer Anderson, a deeply insightful author whose journey of faith and personal growth offers a compelling narrative for anyone navigating the complexities of religion, politics, and family dynamics. About 15 years ago, Sarah's faith shifted during her pregnan...
#28: The Word Became Speechless 26.08.2024 32:58
Click here to watch the episode on video. Today, we explore the "Word of God." Do you share the belief that the Bible holds the ultimate authority? Or do you see Jesus as the living "Word of God" that John 1 speaks of? We'll wrestle with these questions and more. In this episode, we'll journey through the rich and often paradoxical imagery of the lion and the lamb as presented in Revelation. We'll...
#27: Ministers of Propaganda (with Scott Coley) 12.08.2024 52:24
Click here to watch the episode on video. In this episode, we have Scott M. Coley, a philosophy lecturer at Mount St. Mary's University and author of an intriguing new book. We explore the spiritual side of propaganda and how it's used in religious contexts. We tackle some thought-provoking topics, including the oft-heard phrase "I don't see color," the loaded concept of "law and order," and the a...
#26: The Fear Peddlers 29.07.2024 33:42
Click here to watch the episode on video. Today we're diving into a topic that often stirs deep emotions in the Christian community: fear (and the shame that often follows). We'll unpack the roots of fear, often instilled by religious leaders, and challenge it with biblical insights from 1 Corinthians. We’ll also have an honest conversation about the role of fear in religious teachings and how it...
#25: From Church to Cocktails (with Jordan Hughes) 15.07.2024 1:34:17
Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome to "Cabernet and Pray," episode 25! Today we are joined by Jordan Hughes, also known as the "High Proof Preacher." Jordan, a renowned commercial photographer and videographer from Portland, Oregon, shares his journey from growing up in a church-centric life to becoming a cocktail expert and social media influencer. Delving deep into the art of spir...
#24: Blood From a Stone (with Adam McHugh) 01.07.2024 56:17
Click here to watch the episode on video. In this episode, we sit down with Adam McHugh, a former hospice chaplain turned sommelier and wine tour guide, as we dive into a fascinating conversation blending spirituality, personal transformation, and the world of wine. Adam, the author of the memoir "Blood from a Stone," shares his remarkable journey from ministry to the vineyards of Santa Ynez Valle...
#23: Living in Love (with Greg Boyd) 17.06.2024 1:30:24
Click here to watch the episode on video. This week, we are joined by the insightful and influential Christian scholar Greg Boyd, who brings three decades of pastoral experience from Woodland Hills Church and a robust body of theological writings. In this episode, we dive into the intriguing concept of sensory bubbles, exploring how they shape our perception of reality and God's transcenden...
#22: From Ocean Waves to Rooftop Dreams (with Kevin Sweeney) 03.06.2024 1:07:11
Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome to another episode of "Cabernet and Pray," where faith meets everyday life over a glass of fine wine. I'm your host, Jeremy Jernigan, and today, we're thrilled to have a thought-provoking and dynamic guest, Kevin Sweeney. Kevin, a pastor, podcast host, and author from Hawaii dives deep into the essence of faith, personal growth, and the chal...
#21: Breaking the Stigma 20.05.2024 44:45
Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome back to another episode of Cabernet and Pray. Today, we pause our usual schedule to address a deeply personal and pressing topic that challenges many families: mental health. Our host, Jeremy Jernigan, explores a video of John MacArthur to dissect and debate the contentious views circulating within the Christian community about mental illness....
Disarming Leviathan (with Caleb Campbell) 06.05.2024 1:09:20
Click here to watch the episode on video. As we uncork the 20th episode of Cabernet and Pray, I'm joined by Caleb Campbell, not just to relish in our shared love for a fine Cabernet Sauvignon but to unpack the complexities of Christian nationalism. Caleb, a pastor and author, brings his upcoming book "Disarming Leviathan: Loving your Christian Nationalist Neighbor" to the table, serving up a compa...
Personal Trials and the Alaskan Wilds 22.04.2024 37:57
Click here to watch the episode on video. Pour yourself a glass and settle in as we embark on a journey through the peaks and valleys of life with unwavering gratitude. I'll pull back the curtain on the heart-wrenching journey my wife and I have navigated after a startling genetic revelation. With the discovery of her BRCA2 gene mutation, we've faced the specter of cancer with courage and an unexp...
Embracing a Different Path (with Nate Ross) 08.04.2024 1:11:41
Click here to watch the episode on video. There's something magical about reconnecting with an old friend who’s walked a similar path, and that's exactly what unfolds when Nate Ross joins me for a soul-stirring exploration of faith, parenting, and personal growth. As fellow pastor's sons turned pastors, we traverse the memories of our past, from Nate's transformative years in the Midwest to his me...
From Stoic Thought to Christian Action (with Mike Austin) 25.03.2024 1:05:06
Click here to watch the episode on video. When minds converge over the profound intersections of philosophy and the Christian faith, revelations emerge. Mike Austin, a philosophy professor with a deft touch in character development and spiritual formation, joins me to unravel the tapestry of truth that philosophies like Stoicism weave with Christianity. Our conversation extends beyond the intellec...
Laughing at the Absurdity (with Rob Bell) 11.03.2024 1:06:22
Click here to watch the podcast on video. We sit down with the ever-inspiring Rob Bell, whose journey from founding Mars Hill Bible Church to penning New York Times bestsellers has captivated the minds and hearts of many. Rob's latest fictional escapade lures us into a world that mirrors our own, prompting self-reflection and an adventurous examination of the societal constructs that shape our rea...
Honor and Prepare (with Keith Saarloos) 26.02.2024 1:41:12
Click here to watch the episode on video. When Keith Saarloos swapped apple rows for vineyard vines, little did he know he'd be uncorking a legacy along with his bottles of 2021 Mayhem Grenache. As we sit down, glasses in hand, Keith takes us through the transformation of Saarloos and Sons, revealing how a family farm evolved into a vineyard with deep respect for tradition and terroir. Through our...
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