Dana Sanderson / Bo Wandschneider
Bytes of Experience : CIOs Unplugged
Higher ed IT isn’t just about technology—it’s about leadership, strategy, and navigating the unique challenges of institutional culture. And we’ve seen it all. Two retired Canadian Higher Ed CIOs—and CUCCIO CIO of the Year winners—Bo Wandschneider and Dana Sanderson—bring decades of experience tackling technology, governance, and innovation in Canadian universities. In Bytes of Experience: CIOs Unplugged, they cut through the noise to discuss real challenges, real solutions, and the realities of IT leadership. Expect deep insights, candid discussions, and plenty of humor—because IT isn’t alway...
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Dana Sanderson / Bo Wandschneider
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Jun 1, 2026
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Episodes
S01-E13- Leading Culture, Not Just Controls: Cybersecurity in Higher Ed 08.12.2025 50:39
In this episode of Bytes of Experience, Bo and Dana sit down with David Shipley, CEO and Co‑Founder of Beauceron Security, to explore how leadership shapes cybersecurity culture in higher education. Shipley argues that building community and trust is the real work of leaders — the tools will follow. He also shares insights on where higher ed stands today in terms of security posture compared to ot...
S01-E12- Beyond the Silo: Translating Tech into Transformation - CIO Meets COO 24.11.2025 31:01
COO Maroquine Aziz joins Dana and Bo to explore leadership beyond the IT silo—where systems thinking meets strategic vision. From her dual background in computer science and business, Maro shares how transformational leadership thrives on cross-functional partnerships, trust, and the ability to translate between tech and business. This episode dives into: What digital transformation really means (...
S01-E11- How CUCCIO United Canada’s University CIOs: The Untold Story 20.11.2025 34:49
You're listening to Bytes of Experience with Dana Sanderson and Bo Wandschneider, joined by Lori McMullen, the inaugural ED of CUCCIO. In this episode Lori traces CUCCIO’s origins, growth, and role as a national forum for Canadian university CIOs. They discuss early challenges and wins—cloud adoption, cybersecurity, joint procurement—and CUCCIO’s evolution from a peer support group to a collective...
S01-E10 - IT Is Something You Do With People, Not To Them 10.11.2025 31:46
Keith McWhirter, a retired higher ed IT leader and coach, discusses closing the gap between technology and people by focusing on communication, engagement, and the ‘translator’ role that connects the server room to the boardroom. The episode covers shared leadership, transparency, overcoming a culture of fear around new features, lessons from COVID collaboration, and Keith’s next chapter as a no-f...
S01-E09 - Benchmarking for change: Uniforum and the Alberta Approach 03.11.2025 32:07
In this episode Bo Wandschneider and Dana Sanderson talk with Brian Stewart, CIO at SFU, about Uniform, an administrative benchmarking system used in Canada, the UK and Australia, and how it helped the University of Alberta drive a major service consolidation and cost realignment. They discuss what Uniform measures, the nuance needed when using its data, how benchmarking informed a service‑hub ope...
S01-E08-Cutting Ourselves Short: IT, Strategy, and the Budget Crisis 30.10.2025 37:15
In this episode, Gayleen Gray, CTO at McMaster University, joins us to unpack why blanket budget cuts undermine institutional resilience when IT is treated as a cost center. Drawing on Alex Usher’s insights, we explore digital transformation gaps, the rise of shadow IT, benchmarking strategies, and how smart investments in people and platforms can drive efficiency, trust, and long-term savings. ...
S01-E07 -The CISO Tightrope: Balancing Boards, CIOs, and Campus Culture 14.10.2025 37:56
Episode 7 welcomes CISO Isaac Straley to explore the evolving role of the CISO in higher education — from reporting lines and key relationships with CIOs, presidents, and budget offices to the human impact of breaches. Bo and Dana discuss practical leadership lessons, collaborative security models like CANSOC, and how security programs should enable research and campus life rather than simply impo...
S01-E06 Where IT Nightmares Become Leadership Legends—And Sometimes, Laughs. Part 2 - BETA 14.10.2025 20:37
In part two of their storytelling arc, Bo and Dana unpack the leadership lessons behind their most memorable IT projects. From trust-building in crisis to the art of triage and communication, they explore what it really takes to steer technology through chaos. With reflections on collaboration, resilience, and the occasional comic relief, this episode turns hard-won experience into practical wisdo...
S01-E05 Where IT Nightmares Become Leadership Legends—And Sometimes, Laughs. Part 1 - BETA 14.10.2025 32:15
In this episode Bo and Dana share unfiltered stories of major IT challenges and wins from their careers in higher education — from a risky Office 365 migration and a campus-wide ERP rollout (Project Beacon) to building a Data Resource Center and a resilient campus network through COVID and Hurricane Fiona. They highlight practical leadership lessons: communication and trust, listening to stakehold...
S01-E04 CIO Tightrope - When Innovation Meets Tradition: Navigating Cultural Conflict - Part 2 - BETA 14.10.2025 42:35
In this episode of Bytes of Experience, Bo and Dana explore the cultural conflicts CIOs face in higher education—resistance to change, shared governance versus agility, misaligned priorities, reporting structures, security and innovation tensions, and uneven digital literacy. They share examples from campus life, discuss strategies for turning conflict into opportunity through cultural change an...
S01-E03 CIO Tightrope: Balancing Tech Strategy and Campus Culture - Part 1 - BETA 14.10.2025 33:45
Bo Wandschneider and Dana Sanderson discuss the modern CIO’s challenges in higher education, exploring five themes: translation between tech and stakeholders, navigating institutional culture and shared governance, strategic influence beyond IT, emotional intelligence in leadership, and metrics, wins, and accountability. This is Part 1 of the episode series, highlighting storytelling, digital mome...
S01-E02 From Mainframes to the Cloud: Higher Ed IT Unfiltered - BETA 14.10.2025 36:25
Two recently retired CIOs, Bo Wandschneider and Dana Sanderson, reflect on decades of higher education IT evolution. They trace the journey from punch cards and mainframes to cloud platforms, discuss the tension between centralized and decentralized IT, and share lessons about culture, governance, funding, and strategic planning. The episode also tackles pressing pressure points—security, privacy,...
S01-E01 -Unfiltered CIOs: People, Power & Campus Tech - BETA 14.10.2025 26:36
In the pilot episode of Bytes of Experience, retired higher-ed CIOs Bo Wandschneider and Dana Sanderson introduce themselves and share the journeys that brought them into university IT leadership. They reflect on pivotal career moments, the shift from technical expert to people-centered leader, and the evolving scope and pressures of the CIO role. The hosts explain the podcast’s purpose: candid, u...
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