Meade Holland Shirley & Christy Osborne

"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck

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This podcast represents a completed season. The conversations shared here were part of a specific time and calling, and they are being left available as an archive for those who wish to listen or revisit. No new episodes will be released under this feed. Join Meade and Christy, two retired-over-drinkers turned freedom-from-alcohol coaches, as they explore all of the stories that kept them stuck in the nightly over-drinking cycle, including but certainly not limited to "But Jesus drank wine?" If you're looking for two Christian women who get real about how wine held them back and explore tricky...

Author

Meade Holland Shirley & Christy Osborne

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Religion

Podcast website

www.butjesusdrankwine.com

Latest episode

Dec 8, 2025

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Episodes

Why Summer Might Be The Best Time To Quit Drinking 23.06.2025

Join the conversation in our community at BJDW Community!   Episode 134. What if this is the summer it all changes—for the better? ☀️ Today we dive into what it means to experience summer without alcohol, and why that might be the very thing your soul is craving.  Whether you're newly sober-curious, starting your first alcohol-free summer, or coming back to this journey after a break, this convers...

Has Wine Become an Idol? 16.06.2025

To help you reflect and dig deeper, we've created a free guided journaling booklet that goes hand-in-hand with this episode. You can download it here. Join the conversation in our community at BJDW Community   Today we tackle a topic that hits close to home for many women of faith: Has wine—or any other comfort—become more important than your relationship with God?  Using a biblical lens, they exp...

"But Jesus Drank Wine" (Did He Really?) 09.06.2025

Join the conversation in our community at BJDW Community .  We're re-releasing one of our most popular episodes—Episode 13: Did Jesus Drink Wine? With Pastor David—because some truths are worth hearing twice. Or ten times. This episode gets to the heart of a phrase many of us used to justify the habit: "But Jesus drank wine." It's not just the name of our podcast—it was a story that kept us stuck...

Helping Him Heal: What Women Need to Know About Men, Emotions, and the 3% Rule | Blake Roberts & Jamie Haigh 02.06.2025

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community .  In this honest and insightful episode, we're joined by Blake Roberts (a returning guest!) and Jamie Haigh, founders of The Three Percent Co. and hosts of The 3% Podcast. Both licensed therapists and men of faith, Blake and Jamie share their personal and professional perspective on what's really going on inside the...

Ep. 130 Breaking Free with Dr. Lee Warren's 10 Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery (Part 2) 26.05.2025

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community .  In this episode, we continue our deep dive into Dr. Lee Warren's 10 Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery, focusing on commandments 6 through 10. As freedom-from-alcohol coaches, we share how these powerful principles shape our approach to helping women break free from the overdrinking cycle. From prioritizing long-t...

Ep.129 Breaking Free with Dr. Lee Warren's 10 Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery (Part 1) 19.05.2025

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community .  In this special episode, we got to guest-host Dr. Lee Warren's Spiritual Self-Brain Surgery podcast to discuss the first five of his 10 Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery—powerful principles that combine neuroscience and faith to help you overcome challenges and break free from the destructive patterns in your lif...

Ep. 128 Heather Dillion | From High-Achieving to Healing: Letting Go, Finding God, and Living Free 12.05.2025

Disclaimer: This episode discusses topics including suicide and suicidal ideation, which may be distressing to some listeners. If you are experiencing emotional distress or feel unsafe, please know that help is available. If you are in immediate danger or need urgent support, call 911 (if in the United States) or your local emergency services immediately. For those in the United States, you can re...

Ep. 127 Jill Hutsko | The Lie of Moderation and the Freedom of Obedience 05.05.2025

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community .  In this honest and hope-filled conversation, Christy and Meade welcome Jill, a beloved member of the But Jesus Drank Wine leadership team, to share her powerful story of breaking free from alcohol and drawing closer to God. After ten years of trying to moderate her drinking, Jill was inspired by Christy's sobriety...

Ep. 126 Laura Smith | Brave Woman, Mighty God: Why God Power Girl Power 28.04.2025

Join the conversation in our community HERE! In this empowering episode, Christy and Meade welcome author and speaker Laura Smith for a rich conversation about her latest book, Brave Woman, Mighty God. Laura—now a 15-time published author—shares her heart behind the book's message and reminds us that strength doesn't come from "girl power" but from God power. Together, they explore the stories of...

Ep. 125 Pastor David Walters | Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin? 21.04.2025

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community .  In this episode, Christy and Meade welcome back Pastor David Walters for an honest and theologically rich conversation on one of the most frequently asked questions among believers: Is drinking alcohol a sin? Together, they explore what the Bible actually says about alcohol—and just as importantly, why we ask the...

Ep. 124 Kelsey Green | A Freedom Story from the Heart of Our Leadership Team 14.04.2025

Come hang out with Kelsey, Christy, and Meade in our community, here:  https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community We are so excited to share Kelsey Green's testimony with you today. Kelsey is a beloved member of the But Jesus Drank Wine leadership team and someone who played a key role in laying the foundation of our community. In this episode, Kelsey shares her deeply personal journey of changing he...

Ep. 123 Chris Janssen | Grace Yourself: How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want 07.04.2025

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community .  Today, we sit down with Chris Janssen, MA, BCC, a board-certified results coach, author, and expert in performance and mindset. Chris shares her deeply personal journey with alcohol, from growing up in a non-drinking household to battling a secretive drinking habit in adulthood. She first got sober in 2007 but wen...

Ep. 122 Stephanie Ziebell | Radiant in Battle: Pursuing Sobriety Through Faith 31.03.2025

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community .  Stephanie Ziebell shares her personal journey to sobriety and faith, highlighting the transformation that came when she embraced God's grace. A wife, mother of four, attorney, and Christian sobriety advocate, Stephanie knows what it's like to wrestle with addiction and the internal conflict it brings. After years...

Ep. 121 Blake Roberts | More to the Story: Healing From Sex and Alcohol Addiction 24.03.2025

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community .  In this episode, we sit down with Blake Roberts, a licensed therapist, writer, podcast host, and speaker based in Nashville, TN. Blake specializes in helping men heal attachment wounds, foster healthy relationships, and learn to trust again. If you're looking for ways to support your husband—or any loved one—who i...

Ep. 120 Ali Kennedy | From Shame to Freedom, A Ministry Leader's Sobriety Story 17.03.2025

Join the conversation in our community Here .  In this heartfelt episode, ministry leader Ali Kennedy shares her deeply personal journey from struggling with alcohol to experiencing spiritual renewal and true freedom. Ali's struggle with alcohol began in her early teenage years and continued through college, marriage, and motherhood. Despite being in ministry, she wrestled with feelings of shame a...

Ep. 119 Let Them… or Let HIM? A Biblical Take on Mel Robbins' Viral Self-Help Theory 10.03.2025

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE ! Mel Robbins' Let Them philosophy has taken the self-help world by storm. But is it really the key to peace and freedom? Or is there something deeper—something better—that God calls us to instead? In today's episode, we break down where Let Them aligns with biblical wisdom… and where it misses the mark. Through real-life experiences and scriptural truths, we explore w...

Ep. 118 Jo Hargreaves | Attachment Theory, Faith, and Rewiring the Brain for Emotional Healing 03.03.2025

The Lent Fast Starts This Wednesday!!!! Get more information and join us here  Today we welcome Jo Hargreaves, a pastor, psychotherapist, writer, and speaker, to explore the intersection of faith, therapy, and mental health.  As the voice behind The Faith-Filled Therapist, Jo is passionate about integrating theology and therapy, scripture and neuroscience, and ensuring that God remains at the cent...

Ep. 117 Brandi Babb | The Power of Somatic Practice in Sobriety and Beyond 24.02.2025

Join the Lent 40 Day Fast! More info right here! We start March 5th! Our friend Brandi Babb shares her powerful freedom-from-alcohol story—from her early days as a "good girl" who followed all the rules to confronting the painful realities of alcohol use disorder and the internal divide between her faith and her drinking. Brandi opens up about how her struggle with alcohol began at 21 and intensif...

Ep. 116 Dr Lisa Stanton | Life Changing Lessons from Recovery 17.02.2025

Join the Lent 40 Day Fast! More info right here! We start March 5th! Content Warning:This episode references sensitive topics, including sexual assault and trauma. We recognize that these subjects may be difficult or triggering for some listeners. Please take care of yourself while listening. If you or someone you know is in need of support, please seek help from a trusted resource or helpline. Li...

Ep. 115 Kori Leigh | From Rock Bottom to Redemption, Breaking Generational Patterns, and Rediscovering Who God Really Is 10.02.2025

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE ! Disclaimer: This episode discusses topics including suicide and suicidal ideation, which may be distressing to some listeners. If you are experiencing emotional distress or feel unsafe, please know that help is available. If you are in immediate danger or need urgent support, call 911 (if in the United States) or your local emergency services immediately. For those i...

Ep. 114 Jon Seidl | Confessions of a Christian "Alcoholic" 03.02.2025

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE ! Christy chats with Jon Seidl, bestselling Christian author and founder of The Veritas Network, to discuss addiction, anxiety, and the road to true freedom. Jon has spent years in journalism, faith-based media, and nonprofit work with I Am Second, helping people tell their stories of transformation. But behind the scenes, he was silently battling anxiety, OCD, and alc...

Ep. 113 Christy's Faith Story 27.01.2025

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE ! For some reason, sharing my alcohol story has always been easy for me. But today's podcast episode has been 42 years in the making. I've never told this story before. Today, I want to tell you all about how I rediscovered Jesus. It's a story of redemption, sobriety, and His unrelenting love that has shaped my life. This isn't a story of religious perfection; it's one...

EP. 112 Meade's Faith Story 20.01.2025

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE! Today Meade shares her deeply personal faith story. Through moments of vulnerability and profound honesty, Meade recounts her transformation from a life of struggles with alcohol to finding freedom and identity in her faith. Growing up, Meade believed that Jesus was only for the 'perfect,' which led her to distance herself from faith during her teenage and early adult...

Ep 111. Alisa Keeton | Beyond Resolutions: A Faith-Centered Approach to Fitness and Wellness 13.01.2025

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE! Before you set your New Year's resolutions for diet and exercise, this is the podcast you need to hear. This week we are joined by Alisa Keeton, the visionary founder of Revelation Wellness, to reframe how we think about health, fitness, and faith. Alisa's holistic approach goes beyond traditional diet and exercise goals, offering a deeper understanding of how physica...

Ep. 110 William Porter | The 8 Hurdles of Stopping Drinking 06.01.2025

JOIN THE DRY JANUARY 40-DAY FAST HERE.  Six weeks of coaching and community to kick-start your 2025 alcohol-free! Today we are joined by bestselling author William Porter, creator of Alcohol Explained, to break down the 8 Hurdles of Stopping Drinking. Drawing from his extensive research and personal experience, Porter offers invaluable advice for navigating the often-challenging path to sobriety....

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