But also… Trail running podcast

Host Celeste Fong talks with ultrarunner Taylor Verville and her pacer Mike Martineau about Taylor’s recent Devil’s Den 30-hour race in Bradford, Vermont — her course-record performance (about 89 miles), pacing strategies, nutrition, temperature swings, and lessons from a past collapse at Notchview. The episode explores both runner and pacer perspectives, the race community and c...

Host Celeste Fong sits down with Joey Thompson to discuss his transformation through running — from weight loss and coping with his mother’s death to sobriety and pushing to 100 miles at Notchview. They talk honestly about burnout, depression, anxiety, the healing power of community on the trails, and how showing up can help you find your love of running again. Joey also shares his upcoming goal o...

Veteran sports reporter Lori Riley sits down with Celeste Fong to share her journey from print newsrooms to the trails, covering UConn, high school sports, and memorable local runners. They discuss how running changed her life, the evolution of women’s sports, and the personal stories that make reporting meaningful. Listen for candid reflections on locker-room culture, reporting challenges i...

Host Celeste Fong records live on the trails at the Notchview Invitational, capturing on-course chaos, cheering, and candid conversations with runners like Anna, Celeste, Newt, Taylor, Claire, Marcus, and Linda. This episode weaves race memories, origin stories, late-night antics, and the deep sense of community that fuels ultrarunning, all delivered with humor and unfiltered honesty.

Greg Mathai (aka Walter) joins me with a great conversation about how running replaced long-term smoking and drinking, how his wife helped save his life, and how he fell into ultras later in life.

Host Celeste Fong chats with longtime friend Rick Shoup about his running journey, epic Ragnar experiences (including running 12 in a year), creative pandemic-era stadium ultras, and his love for outrageous eating challenges. They reminisce about memorable races, weather curses, and the tight-knit running community that keeps drawing them back. Expect candid, adult conversations with humor, race s...

This young lady schools me on determination, persistence and strength. If Cassie is representative of the next generation of ultra runners, our sport will be in good hands.

Jenna Gould shares her story. Turns out she’s a fighter as fierce as Daenerys Targaryen. Unfortunately, there’s no way to know if Lenny and Althea are actually dragons disguised as dogs.

Mommy joins me to discuss the Circadian Endurance Challenge https://www.patreon.com/ButalsoTrailRunningPodcast?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61578973457291 https://www.instagram.com/but_also_trailrunningpodcast?igsh=MXY3b2Z4YWpoNHkxYg%3D%3D&utm_source=qr

Mike Martineau shares his inspirational story. Growing up with cerebral palsy, overcoming physical and cognitive challenges and putting up with me for 40 miles at Notchview. https://www.patreon.com/ButalsoTrailRunningPodcast?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61578973457291 https://www.instagram.com/but_also_trailrunningpodcast/profilecard/?igsh=MXY3b2Z4YWpoN...

A quick introduction to the podcast and my favorite group of idiots. https://www.patreon.com/ButalsoTrailRunningPodcast?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61578973457291 https://www.instagram.com/but_also_trailrunningpodcast?igsh=MXY3b2Z4YWpoNHkxYg%3D%3D&utm_source=qr