The Business Side of Music Podcast

Business Side of Music

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The Business Side of Music podcast features interviews with leading industry professionals and working musicians, offering real-world advice to help artists grow their careers and incomes. Founded by Tom Sabella and Traci Snowe in 2008, the show has a rich legacy of empowering musicians. For many years, the podcast was hosted by Bob Bender, a respected industry veteran known for his work with Ringo Starr, Billy Preston, and Curb Records. Bob's passing in 2023 left a lasting impact, and we continue to honor his legacy. Today, the podcast is hosted by Sarah Fleshner, a music industry professiona...

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Jul 7, 2026

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#331 - Perception Versus Perspective 27.08.2024

Back in the 1940's, 50', and into the 1960's, the recording studio was rather a simple affair. Typically one or a few mics would be used to record an artist or a band, with all of the members in the studio at the same time. Then in the 1970's, the recording studio changed, and became a structured environment, where each member could be isolated, with a selection of microphones recorded onto multip...

#330 - It's Still The Wild, Wild West 22.08.2024

The music business is probably more so like the Wild, Wild West these days, than it ever has been, even going back to the 1960's. Joining us on the show today is the legendary music industry veteran Charlie Peacock, who is a multi Grammy winner,  along with being a multiple genre Billboard chart topping music producer, composer, and recording artist. He has been named by Billboard's encyclopedia o...

#329 - Build, Maintain, and Grow 13.08.2024

When it comes to such simple things as communication, networking, and even relationships, there are three basic skills you need to remember. You need to build upon the relationship. You also need to maintain them, and work towards them growing. Joining us in the studio is music industry veteran Lyn Stevens who is an award winning photographer, who combines her love of photography with her passion...

#328 - Tonechaser - The Eddie Van Halen Story 06.08.2024

Joining us on today's episode is noted author Steve Rosen, who shares his story of his time spent with guitar legend Eddie Van Halen. This strikingly personal account of Rosen's twenty six-plus year odyssey with Eddie, one of the greatest and most enigmatic musicians of the 20th Century. What was it like to call Ed a friend? Rosen shares with our listeners how he came about writing his book "Tonec...

#327 - The Journey Home Project 30.07.2024

It is a significant milestone for the Charlie Daniels Patriot Awards Dinner, which will be held on September 11, 2024, at City Winery Nashville. The awards dinner is a program of The Charlie Daniels Journey Home Project, a 501c3 that supports military veterans, first responders and their families. This year marks the 10th anniversary of the program, co-founded by Country Music legend, Charlie Dani...

#326 - Is The Big Show A Thing of the Past? 23.07.2024

On this special episode of "Between The Notes" edition here on The Business Side of Music, show contributor Jack Sharkey and host Bob Bender go on a rant, discussing the value of the larger venue concert, and why some acts are having a difficult time selling out these days. Are they (the artist) still viable? Is the cost (and the unpredictable weather when its outdoors) worth going to stand around...

#325 - Artificial Intelligence 16.07.2024

Artificial Intelligence. It's in all the latest hot button topic conversations when it comes to the entertainment industry, especially the music business. How is AI going to affect the future of what we do for a living? Will AI replace the live performance? The artist who's seeking a record deal? Is this the beginning of the end as we know it, or is it the end of the beginning? Legendary record pr...

#324 - Are You Trying to Boil The Ocean? 09.07.2024

Are you looking for ways to engage your digital audience? Are you seeking out ways to know your fan base better? What about finding ways to market to those fans (and turning them into consumers)? Sometimes, it just feels overwhelming, as though you're trying to boil water in the entire ocean. Joining us in the studio today is Darshan Kaler, who is the founder and CEO of fan engagement for the tech...

#323 - Is Your Artistry Protected? 02.07.2024

In an ever evolving world in the music industry, how does an artist go about protecting themselves and their artistry? Especially in a new age of technology, music delivery platforms, and artificial intelligence? This is where legal counsel can help save the day… and possibly your career from the perils and pitfalls. In the studio today are Brianna Schwartz and Alexis Schreiber, who are attorneys...

#322 - The Efficient Hustle 25.06.2024

The audience is in their seats. The lights dim, and the artist takes the stage. For the next 90 minutes or more, the show goes on without a hitch. But in order to get there, production for the show began to take shape, weeks, if not months earlier. But how does this happen, and who's in charge? Enter the Production Manager. This individual is in charge of everything from ensuring that the stage, s...

#321 - Is Your Music Resonating 18.06.2024

Upwards of 200,000 songs or more are uploaded daily to many digital providing streaming services. It becomes a crowded field rather quickly, and in many instances, your music can get lost in all of what is often called "white noise". As streaming catalogs continue to grow in size and depth of music, DSP's (digital service providers) are beginning to remove music that has had zero impact on listene...

#320 - To Sell or Not To Sell Your Catalog 11.06.2024

With so many artists selling off their catalogs these days, is there even room for the independent artist that may have a substantial collection of songs to be a part of this new trend? Is that catalog worth money? How does one go about finding out what its "retail" value might be? Lior Tibon, who is the co-founder and CEO of Duetti, dropped into the studio during the MusicBiz 2024 Conference to s...

#319 - The Songwriters Guide Book 04.06.2024

As a songwriter, it's never been more important to track your songs, and receive payment for your efforts, as it is now. But where do you start, and where do you go to find where the royalty payments may be waiting for you? It's not always up to the PRO's (Performing Rights Organizations) to find your money and hand it out to you. In simple terms, you need to be paid for what you create. It can be...

#318 - The Famous Black Box 30.05.2024

Music. Data. Rights. They're all connected in one form or another, but it can be confusing at times, especially with technology outpacing the music industry. As an owner of music content, the revenue stream created by the music, can fall into a black box of sorts, just waiting there until the money is found. In steps Orfium, which is a global technology company solving the entertainment industry's...

#317 - The Demise of the Music Store 22.05.2024

The Music Store. Also known as the social gathering place for musicians to gather at, check out the latest musical gear, purchase their goods such as guitars, drums, strings, and sticks. But the traditional music store is much more than that. Its a locale where musicians both new and seasoned can get together and share their chops, collect new ideas, and exchange phone numbers and email addresses....

#316 - Wipe Your Feet at the Door Before You Enter the Theater 15.05.2024

You get on stage, and you're not sure what you're supposed to do. Is it a matter of just singing the songs? Do you create a conversation with the audience? Or do you suffer from some form of stage fright, maybe to the point where you think you're going to throw up once you're on stage (or before)? Joining us today is Bill Cakmis. A seasoned professional with decades of experience, he's more than a...

#315 - Songs From A Camper Van 07.05.2024

Celebrating his 30th anniversary in the music industry with his band "The Nadas", singer/songwriter, and founding member Jason Walsmith joins us in the studio to talk about his career. Jason has spent his adult life as a career musician, storyteller, photographer, traveler, and adventurer. The celebrated folk-Americana act The Nadas have amassed a loyal and dedicated following over the past three...

#314 - You've Got To Swim Out To Meet Your Ship 29.04.2024

As one of 39 kids of the world famous Osmond family (who sold over 100 million records), our guest Nathan Osmond grew up on the set of his uncles TV Show during their heyday. He himself went on to form another generation of Osmond singers, who toured with such 90's acts as New Kids On The Block, Naughty By Nature, and Colour Me Badd. The son of Alan Osmond, he and his brothers moved to Branson Mis...

#313 - The Anatomy of The Song 23.04.2024

Meet Dave Lenahan. He started out in the music business by being a DJ at WKSU radio on the campus of Kent State University, doing afternoon drive time jazz. He went on to work at Country Station WUBE in Cincinnati OH, but in short order he determined that he was destined to become a hit songwriter. We discuss the anatomy of the song, how to put one together, and what separates a tune from a hit. D...

#312 - Touring Career Workshop 16.04.2024

Unless you work for a major corporation within the music industry, and are blessed to have a great benefits package, you must fend for yourself in order to provide the tools needed to get by in life: health insurance, retirement plans, and the general skills to run your own business. Make no mistake about it, if you are a freelance technician in the touring business – you ARE your own business. Th...

#311 - The Japanese Tea Ceremony 09.04.2024

Record Store Day was conceived in 2007 at a gathering of independent record store owners and employees as a way to celebrate and spread the word about the unique culture surrounding the nearly 1400 independently-owned record stores in the US and thousands of similar stores internationally. The first Record Store Day took place on April 19, 2008. Today, 17 years later, Record Store Day is celebrate...

#310 - Making It Big One Gig At A Time 04.04.2024

Stone Senate has been called "a heavier version of Lynyrd Skynyrd, crossed with The Allman Brothers Band". While being mentioned in such heady company is flattering, it is important to note Stone Senate is most definitely not a retro act. They are taking what came naturally from their collective influences a step further and making a name for themselves in the world of modern country rock. The ban...

#309 - The Roadie Cartel 26.03.2024

'Watching Guns N' Roses from the side of the stage in London, standing on the set of Saturday Night Live with Paul Simon, receiving a signed skateboard from Carrie Underwood, and mixing front-of-house sound for Kiss…' These are just a handful of experiences in the rearview mirror of Phillip Kriz's extraordinary journey in the music industry as a sought-after "roadie" tech, band assistant, and trus...

#308 - Where in The Song is The Moment? 12.03.2024

You crafted your songs. You've put your heart and soul into them, but when you're on stage, the response from the audience is lackluster at best. Is it the material you're performing. In many cases, while the songs are excellent, the presentation is not. Where in the song is the moment on stage that defines who you are? This is where Tom Jackson Productions steps in. As a trained Live Music Produc...

#307 - An Alligator Walking Thru The Everglades 05.03.2024

Continuing our ongoing series of "Between The Notes" episodes with music industry veteran Jack Sharkey, We have a discussion that is often overlooked, or at the very least ignored... The loss of hearing due to years of performing live music. Jack, who himself suffers from hearing loss because of loud volumes on stage (along with a inexperienced sound engineer on occasion), had permanent damage don...

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