Business of Betting Podcast
Business of Betting Podcast
A podcast covering the sports betting industry from the perspective of bettors, operators, and industry insiders. Hosted by Jeff Edelstein, Senior Analyst at InGame.com.
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
E249 - Daniel Wallach from Wallach Legal 09.06.2025 55:45
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Daniel Wallach, sports law expert and founder of Wallach Legal. Hear them discuss: 04:35 - Daniel's leap from traditional law to sports betting and the challenges involved 06:08 - How Daniel became one of the first legal experts writing about sports betting 06:45 - The evolution of legal betting in New Jersey and Daniel’s ear...
E248 - Tom Waterhouse from Waterhouse VC 16.05.2025 31:42
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Tom Waterhouse, Managing Partner at Waterhouse VC and fourth-generation bookmaker. This episode was recorded in-person at the SBC Summit Americas in Fort Lauderdale. Hear them discuss: 01:06 – Tom’s family legacy and the founding of tomwaterhouse.com 02:13 – Australia’s gambling market and why racing still dominates 03:35 –...
E247 - Jesse Learmonth 09.05.2025 43:15
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jesse Learmonth, host of the Betting Startups Podcast, who guest-hosts to interview Jason about his company, Smarkets, and its current efforts to raise $50,000,000 from investors. Hear them discuss: 09:37 - What it means for a company to raise money from investors 13:00 - Why Jason is going back to raise capital again for Smark...
E246 - Katie Bo Lillis 02.05.2025 40:14
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Katie Bo Lillis, CNN intelligence reporter and author of Death of a Racehorse: An American Story. Hear them discuss: 01:06 – Katie’s rural upbringing and start at the racetrack 02:28 – From walking hots to bloodstock reporting in Saratoga 03:10 – Thoroughbreds, quarter horses, and racing’s breed confusion 04:21 – How horse ra...
E245 - Matthew Trenhaile (re-release) 25.04.2025 1:07:58
We're bringing back one of our all-time most popular episodes for a special re-release! Originally aired last year, this conversation with Matthew Trenhaile was a fan favorite. Matthew is one of the sharpest minds in the sports betting world, and his insights into exchanges, market making, and the future of the industry are as relevant today as they were then. Hear them discuss: 02:41 – The Smarke...
E244 - Thomas McGrath from TXODDS 11.04.2025 26:27
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Thomas McGrath, Chief Revenue Officer at TXODDS. Hear them discuss: 01:29 - The founding story of TXODDS and its early product evolution 02:57 - Jason’s experience using TXODDS as a customer 04:06 - The role of TXODDS in data origination and live scouting 05:16 - Addressing historical issues with soft pricing and long-tail mark...
E243 - Office Hours with Jason 04.04.2025 19:06
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason returns for another Office Hours session, answering listener questions and reflecting on Smarkets’ journey, product-market fit, and the future of U.S. regulation. Hear him discuss: 03:00 – Lessons from building a global trading platform 04:50 – What Jason would’ve done differently with Smarkets 08:40 – Why sports betting should be separate...
E242 - Roger Ehrenberg from Eberg Capital 21.03.2025 46:38
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Roger Ehrenberg, founder of Eberg Capital and a seasoned investor with a background in Wall Street and venture capital. Hear them discuss: 05:43 - From Wall Street to sports: Jason’s trading roots and the power of price in investing 07:06 - Roger’s seed investing strategy: founders, pricing, and the long game in sports 09:58 -...
E241 - Alex Kane from Sporttrade 14.03.2025 33:09
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Alex Kane, CEO and founder of Sportrade. Hear them discuss: 03:13 - Alex’s balanced take on Trump’s policies, including the Department of Government Efficiency 07:43 - The evolving world of betting exchanges 08:33 - Alex on the potential of a CFTC-regulated betting exchange ecosystem 10:53 - Comparing the U.S. stock market’s co...
E240 - Travis Geiger from WagerWire 08.03.2025 26:44
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Travis Geiger, the CXO and Co-founder of WagerWire. Hear them discuss: 04:01 - How WagerWire was founded from a real-life betting moment 05:33 - What WagerWire does and how it creates a secondary market for sports bets 06:32 - The process of selling a bet through WagerWire 07:51 - How WagerWire ensures bet validation and handle...
E239 - Greg Wolfe from The Wolfline 28.02.2025 37:37
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Greg Wolfe, CEO and co-founder of The Wolfline. Greg, an options trader turned sports betting analytics expert and advocate for consumer protection, shares his unique perspective on the industry. Hear them discuss: 01:32 - How Greg got started in sports betting at just five years old 02:42 - His journey from betting and bookmak...
E238 - Manuel Stan from Catena Media 14.02.2025 23:29
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Manuel Stan, CEO of Catena Media. Hear them discuss: 01:01 - Manuel’s journey to Las Vegas and what it’s like calling it home 03:07 - An overview of what Catena Media does and its role in the sports betting ecosystem 04:03 - How shifts in the U.S. market are impacting Catena Media’s business 07:21 - How affiliates are evolving...
E237 - Mark Phillip from MetaBet 31.01.2025 27:30
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Mark Phillip, CEO and founder of MetaBet and Are You Watching This?! Hear them discuss: 01:03 - Mark’s take on life in Austin, Texas—Is it worth the hype? 06:30 - The changing landscape of sports media and viewership habits 08:20 - Will younger generations maintain the same level of passion for sports? 09:56 - How sports league...
E236 - Captain Jack Andrews from Unabated 24.01.2025 45:43
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Captain Jack Andrews, Co-Founder of Unabated. Hear them discuss: 02:20 - How Captain Jack's first trip to Las Vegas ignited his passion for gambling 06:10 - His advocacy for fairness in sports betting inspired by personal experiences with limitations 07:40 - Why he believes sports betting offers more edges than card counting 11...
E235 - Steven Salz from Rivalry 17.01.2025 37:24
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Steven Salz, Co-Founder and CEO of Rivalry, a Canadian company focused on serving a new generation of bettors with a mix of eSports, traditional sports, and gaming products. Hear them discuss: 01:53 - Steven’s view on Canada’s current state, including challenges in healthcare and housing 02:10 - The cost of living in Canada and...
E234 - Office Hours with Jason 10.01.2025 19:38
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason hosts an office hours session to kick off 2025. Hear him discuss: 03:40 - DraftKings’ latest attempt to monetize through subscription fees and his perspective on the move 05:30 - Bet365’s impressive revenue growth and its controversial market practices 08:50 - Reflections on the U.S. election results and expectations for Trump’s new adminis...
E233 - Adam Krejcik from Eilers & Krejcik Gaming, LLC 20.12.2024 31:45
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Adam Krejcik, co-founder and partner at Eilers & Krejcik Gaming. Hear them discuss: 00:50 - How Adam's company name creates lasting impressions 03:20 - The services Eilers & Krejcik Gaming provides and their value to stakeholders 07:16 - Adam’s background and his path into the gaming industry 08:50 - The evolving cultur...
E232 - Nigel Eccles from BetHog 13.12.2024 1:00:01
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Nigel Eccles, founder of BetHog and co-founder of FanDuel. Hear them discuss: 3:11 - Why the UK startup scene struggles to compete with the US. 8:23 - Founding FanDuel and the challenges of building a billion-dollar company. 14:27 - Why Nigel stayed in the US and the entrepreneurial energy it offers. 21:00 - Raising massive fun...
E231 - Jeff Ifrah from Ifrah Law 06.12.2024 35:47
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jeff Ifrah, Founding & Managing Partner at Ifrah Law. Hear them discuss: 01:30 - Jeff’s reaction to U.S. midterm results and their impact on sports betting. 02:13 - Insights into New Jersey legislation and the issue of "skins." 04:00 - Balancing political realities with free-market ideals in regulation. 07:00 - Legal takes...
E230 - Rob Davies from PowerPlay 29.11.2024 33:24
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Rob Davies, COO of PowerPlay. Hear them discuss: 01:00 - Rob’s unique background in philosophy and his PhD on religious toleration 02:15 - Why Rob will always be a Bolton Wanderers fan, no matter what! 03:00 - The importance of accepting fallibility in business and decision-making 06:10 - How Rob transitioned from academia to t...
E229 - David Hill 22.11.2024 43:50
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by writer, David Hill to discuss his Rolling Stone feature - "Is the $11 Billion Online Sportsbook Bubble About to Burst?" Hear them discuss: 00:51 - David's transition from a union organizer to becoming a writer and how it shaped his immersive storytelling approach. 07:30 - David's upbringing in Hot Springs, Arkansas, a historic...
E228 - Jeff Benson from Circa Sports 15.11.2024 29:34
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jeff Benson, Director of Operations at Circa Sports. Hear them discuss: 02:10 - How Jeff got started in the sports betting industry 03:30 - What brought Jeff to Circa Sports and his early impressions of the company 06:40 - The growth strategy for Circa Sports and its approach to expansion 08:05 - The unique aspects of Circa’s s...
E227 - Liam Forde from The Zone 08.11.2024 39:08
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by his coach, Liam Forde, Founder and CEO of The Zone. Hear them discuss: 03:00 - How Jason first met Liam and began coaching with him 05:20 - Liam’s views on when strict coaching models may or may not work 06:30 - How to motivate employees without anger, and why clarity and responsibility matter 09:20 - How Jason’s coaching helpe...
E226 - Sue Schneider from Defy the Odds 04.11.2024 29:09
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Sue Schneider, Co-Founder at Defy the Odds. Hear them discuss: 03:15 - How Sue got started in the betting industry 07:42 - The early days of online gaming and betting 12:33 - Challenges Sue faced in building an industry presence 16:50 - The evolution of regulatory frameworks in online gambling 21:17 - Key milestones in the glob...
E225 - Adam Small from Third Planet Affiliates 01.11.2024 39:22
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Adam Small, founder of Third Planet Affiliates. Hear them discuss: 02:01 - Adam’s background and entry into the betting industry 02:40 - Election mania and its impact on business sentiment 03:24 - The role of affiliates in the betting industry 04:23 - Industry insights and trends impacting affiliates 13:44 - Reflecting on the a...
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