Drew McLellan

Build a Better Agency Podcast

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Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.

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Drew McLellan

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Jul 5, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 162: The Ins and Outs of Geofencing with Justin Croxton 12.11.2018

Often on this podcast, I share a wide-ranging conversation with my guest and we bounce around a little bit, even though we are focused on an overall theme. This episode is a little bit different. We going to deep-dive into just one subject: geofencing. For some in our business who aren't digital natives, reaching an audience through new technologies like geofencing may seem complicated. When I sta...

Episode 161: Solving a Market Problem and Serving a Larger Purpose with Jonathan Grzybowski 05.11.2018

For entrepreneurs, business decisions always are a blend of the head and heart. You need data and research in hand to make smart, informed decisions. But it also needs to feel right. Episode #161 is about those head-and-heart decisions. It's about making mistakes and starting over. It's about not settling for only one side of the equation. Some learn these lessons sooner than others. We all know c...

Episode 160: A skill all agency owners need to own and hone – the difficult conversation with Drew McLellan 29.10.2018

One of the challenges for all of us as agency owners and leaders is finding the balance of creating a relationship with our employees, but also being the leader and helping them recognize their blind spots, areas of growth and when they've messed up. This requires the courage to have candid conversations with your team members. It's never easy or all together comfortable, but to truly be a leader...

Episode 159: 6 Keys to a Great Client/Agency Relationship with Dr. Mario Vafeas 22.10.2018

Client relationships is a frequent topic on this podcast. In this episode, we focus on what it takes to cultivate strong and mutually beneficial relationships with clients. Dr. Mario Vafeas is on the faculty at The University of the West of England in Bristol. His work in agency-client relationships is the result of research, study and real-world experience. He brings a pragmatic approach, backed...

Episode 158: The Location Agnostic Agency with Brendon Craigie 15.10.2018

Remember when it sounded crazy to remote employees scattered all over the country?  Or even crazier, in multiple countries? The truth is today, it's becoming the norm rather than the exception. Many agencies are choosing a hybrid approach, with a central office and staff in a brick and mortar location, but also with remote full-time and part-time workers. Some agencies are going all-in on remote w...

Episode 157: A Tax Coach's Guide to the New Tax Law with Craig Cody 08.10.2018

We are hip-deep into 2018, and the new tax law is fully in effect. It's past time to get a handle on the implications of the new law for your business because we only have a few months left to do any sort of planning before year end. Many agency owners are not exactly "numbers" people. The default, too often, is to let other people handle the money, then go off and focus on the creative or strateg...

Episode 156: Add Value First – Building Relationships Also Builds Your Agency with James Carbary 01.10.2018

Building genuine relationships in our industry is one of the best parts of being in the business. The point is not to build transactional relationships that will end in a big "payoff" for you. When you focus on real relationships, you wind up bringing people into your life who you actually want to work with, and when you're really fortunate, end up being good friends. I firmly believe in this phil...

Episode 155: Why Finding Your Niches is No Longer Optional with Drew McLellan 24.09.2018

It's a bit of a milestone episode here, episode 155. It seems like an odd number to celebrate, but it means this podcast has been going strong for three years now! (52 weeks = 156 episodes) So thanks for listening, whether you've been around since the beginning, or this is your first time here! As I speak with agency owners and decision-makers every day about their agencies and their business deve...

Episode 154: Talk Triggers and Chatter Matters: Word-of-Mouth Marketing with Daniel Lemin 17.09.2018

Word of mouth is nothing new. For generations, it's been talking with your neighbor over the fence, at the local watering hole, or telling your co-worker about the latest movie in the breakroom. As a business, word of mouth is sparked by those things that you do that separate you from the pack. These talk triggers are so memorable and unique that your customers can't help but talk about them. My g...

Episode 153: Company Culture – Living What You Say You Do with Gina Trimarco 10.09.2018

As agencies struggle to attract and retain top talent, it's natural that we're having a lot of conversation about culture. We're in a creative industry, and I find that most owners are pretty self-aware. We want to love the business we've built, and we want to do right by our employees. Everyone wants their agency to have a culture that employees value and enjoy, but some owners don't really know...

Episode 152: Entrepreneurial You: Building Multiple Income Streams with Dorie Clark 03.09.2018

"Don't put all your eggs in one basket." That's the standard advice of any investment advisor. But that investment can only happen once we've actually made the money. But maybe the concept of diversification is equally applicable to the first stage – making the income in the first place. Having multiple sources of income builds wealth more quickly and mitigates risks inherent in having just a sing...

Episode 151: Mastering the Value Conversation with Blair Enns 27.08.2018

In any trade, mastering the work is just the first of many hurdles. But one of the most daunting for most agency owners is pricing. What is the work worth? Who is my competition, and what if they offer services for less? What is the true value of the work we're doing and what's the ROI for our client? There will always be someone (agency or freelancer) who is willing to do the same work for less....

Episode 150: How to attract and retain quality talent with Drew McLellan 20.08.2018

Before we dive into today's topic — I first want to say thank you for your listenership and loyalty! We are downloaded in over 85 countries and I'm grateful for every listener. This solocast is Episode 150 of Build a Better Agency and I'm grateful for your time and the conversations we've had over the last three years. Way back in Episode 35 (in early 2016), we talked about the employee shortage a...

Episode 149: Embracing the Storytelling Edge with Joe Lazauskas 13.08.2018

In our industry, storytelling is one of those words that is so overused, it can lose its meaning pretty quickly. Great stories stick with us. My guest, the co-author of The Storytelling Edge , Joe Lazauskas, understands that good storytelling gives you an edge. In a world where content can be all-but-meaningless pablum, it can also tell a story that moves a customer and makes a connection with the...

Episode 148: Purpose-Filled Recruitment and Retention with Steve Lowisz 06.08.2018

If there is a common pain point for agency owners today -- it's recruiting and retaining talent. It's a conversation I am having every day and it's more difficult than it's been in quite a while. Unfortunately, I don't see that trend reversing any time soon. Which means we'd all better improve our ability to keep the good ones that we either have or can attract. It's starts with hiring the right p...

Episode 147: Serve Your Clients: Selling Without Selling with Michelle Weinstein 30.07.2018

Business development does not just happen. For most of us as agency owners, sales is one of those things we wish we didn't have to do. In this episode of Build A Better Agency, we're going to really dive into sales. I think the reluctance comes down to a fear of rejection. Because of those fears and insecurities, we don't prioritize biz dev. We don't put it on the calendar. We don't make it a must...

Episode 146: Developing a digital-first DNA with Chris Aarons 23.07.2018

Why do some agencies seem to "get" digital transformation and others struggle to cross that hurdle? Even more puzzling – among the ones who do get it – why are so many of them struggling to make money at it? These are some of the daunting questions I'm exploring in this episode with my guest Chris Aarons. We all understand that digital transformation is happening. Few understand this as well as he...

Episode 145: Top Agency Trends of 2018 (Part 2) with Drew McLellan 16.07.2018

When you're busy running an agency, it can be hard to take a step back to see broader trends. What is currently happening and what is on the horizon regarding client relationships? What tactics and deliverables are hot and making agencies money? This is the second part of a discussion I started last month about the we're tracking at AMI. One of the best aspects of our work with agency owners from...

Episode 144: Learning to speak creativity with Larry Robertson 09.07.2018

I've always described our work as being called upon to be creative on demand. Whether an agency employee sits in the creative department, codes apps, builds strategy or works on new business – we are all tasked with being fresh thinkers. Our clients hire us to ask the right questions. We feel the pressure to provide answers or at the very least, to know the next right question.  It's incredibly sa...

Episode 143: Customer Experience: the customer is just the beginning with Stan Phelps 02.07.2018

We live in the ratings and review economy. While our clients (and I suspect we are guilt of this too inside our agencies) are busy chasing after the new customer, the truth is – if we don't create an amazing experience for our existing clients – we're sunk. It's tough to attract new business when your current customers are giving you mediocre reviews or rushing to social media to share your custom...

Episode 142: Building a growth mindset is best done in community with Pam Slim 25.06.2018

Obstacles are a given. We don't get to waltz through life without facing some tough days, barriers and people who are pretty convinced we're crazy. As a result – we all have "those days." Those days of doubt, of worry and of asking ourselves, "what am I doing?" I don't know about you, but there are days when I wonder how I got on this crazy roller coaster. But then I realize that I stood in line j...

Episode 141: Finding the introvert's edge with Matthew Pollard 18.06.2018

I hang out with agency owners every day and 95% of them resist proactive business development for as long as they can. Until that big client starts to give "I want to break up" signs, they are happy to rely on referrals and anyone who crosses the threshold as a substitute for a true biz dev program. Most owners will tell me that they either hate sales or they're terrible at them. But the reality i...

Episode 140: Top Agency Trends of 2018 (Part 1) with Drew McLellan 11.06.2018

I have the good fortune of hanging out with agency owners and their teams every day of the year. We work with over 250 agencies that range from a handful of employees to several hundred team members. While every agency is absolutely unique – there are some common themes and trends that bubble up as we work alongside our agency clients. Every year I pull together the trends I see time and time so t...

Episode 139: Don't force the fit – talking culture and clients with Raman Sehgal 04.06.2018

Every agency has an internal culture. The only question is – did you build it on purpose. Intentionality. That is the bottom line. If you want to consciously create your team's functionality and effectiveness, what kind of clients you attract, and where your own focus should be – that takes intentionality. That level of thinking has helped Raman Sehgal build an agency that allows him to work with...

Episode 138: Putting profit first with Michael Michalowicz 28.05.2018

Making a profit is the goal of any agency owner. But too often, the way we think about profit actually hurts our agency. The standard equation (sales - expenses = profit) can lead to bad decision-making. We are willing to accept the leftovers (profit) rather than running our business to deliver profit as a key outcome. I'd much rather have you determine the amount of profit that is acceptable to y...

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