Jack Rico, Mike Sargent
Brown & Black
Winner of a 2024 Gold Signal Award, 'Brown & Black' is a podcast at the intersection of race and pop culture. Hosted by Jack Rico (Latino) and Mike Sargent (Black), two nationally recognized film and culture critics, provide a multicultural perspective missing from mainstream media today. Through interviews with filmmakers, artists, and journalists, the show explores the complex relationship between race and entertainment.
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Oct 17, 2025
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Episodes
Sheila E. On Why She Waited Decades to Make a Salsa Album 06.04.2024 24:09
Sheila E broke barriers as both a talented percussionist and an Afro-Latina artist. In this episode, she reveals the personal motivations behind creating her first salsa album now, "Bailar," and explores her relationship with Latin music and identity. Her answers offer a unique window into the challenges and triumphs of embracing heritage and language through music. She also discusses how personal...
In Memoriam: Louis Gossett Jr. Discusses Cultural Appreciation (2020 Interview) 29.03.2024 55:51
In tribute to the life and career of legendary actor Louis Gossett Jr., we are re-airing our 2020 interview with him regarding his role as Luis Garcia in 'The Cuban'. In this conversation, Mr. Gossett Jr. shared his insights on embracing international cultures and his love for Cuba. 'The Cuban', where Gossett plays a Cuban jazz musician in a nursing home with dementia. The episode explores the sen...
Talent vs Image: The Music and Wisdom of Afro Cuban Singer Daymé Arocena 24.03.2024 45:58
Mike and Jack have an in-depth discussion with a claimed Afro Cuban singer Daymé Arocena about her new album Alkemi, she opens up about her struggles as a black Latina woman in this industry, how we perceive black skin, how we perceive Latina women with black skin, body image in the pop music industry and how has that all impacted and Influenced the way she sees herself as an artist. What kind of...
AI and White Backlash: Our Progress Under Threat 29.02.2024 28:57
In this episode, progress vs. preservation. We discuss the alarming white backlash targeting Latino interns and how AI is impacting the film industry and creators of color. We explore how these two stories set the stage for a broader debate on diversity in the digital age. The Smithsonian Latino Museum is being sued for its pro-Latino internship program designed to increase Latino representation....
2024 Oscars: Is Colman Domingo Afro-Latino Enough? 07.02.2024 32:59
Does Colman Domingo's Blackness overshadow his Latino heritage, making him invisible to the Afro-Latino community? In this episode, we'll analyze how Latino and Black films and actors fared in the 2024 Oscar nominations. We'll also discuss Colman Domingo's groundbreaking Best Actor nomination as the first Afro-Latino LGBTQ+ actor, and whether his potential win will resonate with the broader Afro-L...
2024 Award Season: Does Diversity Even Matter Anymore? 21.01.2024 37:42
Is the DE&I backlash in America casting a shadow over award-season voters? In our first 'Brown & Black' episode of 2024, we have a critical exploration of DE&I's impact on Hollywood's award season. We'll also dissect the ratings and their implications, analyze the Latino shutout and its contributing factors, and share our predictions for which Latino and Black movies and talent will secure the cov...
Should 'Hamilton' Be Celebrated Today? Why Is Netflix Supporting Black Banks? How Racism Still Controls The Music Industry 10.01.2024 48:12
This week Mike and Jack examine why Netflix is depositing $100 million dollars into Black banks; Lin-Manuel Miranda's revered Broadway musical ' Hamilton ' has been released on Disney+ and is receiving backlash from historians for glorifying slave-owners. Has art become more significant than historical facts? And in 1983, artist David Bowie challenged MTV VJ Mark Goodman on why MTV didn't play Bla...
The Top Latino and Black Films of 2023 19.12.2023 29:50
In this episode, we share our top Latino and Black films of 2023. Jack chose: "At the Gates," a psychological thriller that flips the traditional Latino immigrant story. "Radical," based on an inspirational true story that highlights the power of education in some of Mexico's poorest schools. "They Shot the Piano Player," an animated docudrama about a music journalist uncovering the mysterious dea...
Warren Drummond: How His Storyboards Shaped Hollywood's Biggest Hits 09.12.2023 43:17
For over three decades, legendary storyboard artist Warren Drummond has been the inspiration and creative force behind some of Hollywood's most iconic films, such as "A Beautiful Mind" and "Straight Outta Compton", collaborating with industry giants like John Singleton, Ron Howard, and Denzel Washington. Warren joins the show to discuss his new book, 'A Hard Day's Work,' in which he offers a rare...
Gannett and The Marvels: White Backlash in the Age of Diversity 17.11.2023 43:34
Listen to this heated discussion on the controversial reverse discrimination lawsuit from white employees against Gannett for its diversity efforts in news, plus we tackle the 'woke' backlash of the film 'The Marvels' for its focus on diverse female superheroes. We ask, is DE&I under attack? Can diversity thrive in a divided America, or have we reached a reverse tipping point? And what does the fu...
The 6 Must-See Latin & Black Horror Films for Halloween 13.11.2023 40:51
Happy Halloween! 🎃 Fear, a universal emotion, resides within each of us. As children, we quivered at tales of demons, ghosts, and mysterious noises in the dark—stories predominantly told from a white perspective, often neglecting the rich tapestry of Latino and Black experiences. This month, we take you back to our classic 2020 Halloween episode, where we delve deep into the world of Latin and Bl...
Chasing Relevance: A Dangerous Obsession or Necessary Reality? 22.10.2023 35:44
Chasing relevance. We're all guilty of it at some point, desperately trying to stay current and be noticed. But what's the cost? In this episode of Brown & Black, we'll peel back the layers on society's obsession with relevance, specifically for people of color in media and entertainment today. Why does it matter to so many people? Do we really need to stay relevant and what happens if we don't? E...
"From The Shadows": Mike Sargent on Returning to Directing 30.09.2023 40:19
In this special episode, our co-host Mike Sargent discusses his new horror film "From the Shadows" which he directed, produced and co-wrote. He shares some behind-the-scenes stories of making the film, including directing horror legends Keith David and Bruce Davison and what it's like to direct an independent feature. Plus, find out which stories Mike is itching to tell next. Key Topics Discussed:...
Decoding the Supreme Court with Filmmaker Dawn Porter 20.09.2023 28:39
In this episode we discuss truth and the Supreme Court with award-winning filmmaker Dawn Porter . Her latest documentary series, ' Deadlocked: How America Shaped the Supreme Court ' out September 22 on Showtime is a four part docuseries that covers a broad range of topics essential to historians and those curious about the systems of power in this country. In our conversation, we discuss Porter's...
Rotten Tomatoes and the Co-opting of Consensus Culture 14.09.2023 22:50
Rotten Tomatoes, the notorious film review aggregate website, has been shaping the movie choices of audiences for more than a decade. But a recent exposé reveals the site may be rotting from within. In this episode, we discuss the New York Magazine article " The Decomposition of Rotten Tomatoes " and its reporting on how the website has become corruptible and is steadily losing its credibility. W...
Influencers vs. Critics: Who is the Future of Film Criticism? 23.08.2023 47:50
On this episode, Rico and Sargent have an in-depth discussion about the past, present and future of film criticism. Is it traditional film critics or opinion reviewers on TikTok? They share their personal journeys into film criticism, the role of Rotten Tomatoes today, the new influencer/film promoters of social media, and predictions for where the industry is heading. This is an insightful conver...
A Triumph of Latina Feminism? Barbie: The Brown & Black Film Analysis 28.07.2023 41:49
In this episode of Brown & Black, Jack argues why he believes the Barbie movie is really a Latina film at its core. Its pivotal scene centers on a Latina character and her mixed-race daughter. The guys peel back the layers of the $150 million dollar marketing campaign that catapulted Barbie into the national spotlight, and examine the long-standing influence of predominantly white-centric advertis...
WGA/SAG-AFTRA Strike! Is It Time To Decentralize Hollywood? 15.07.2023 25:44
Hollywood is on strike! In this OFF THE CUFF episode, Jack and Mike discuss how the WGA and SAG-AFTRA walkouts could reshape the entertainment industry, including how it could lead to the collapse of American culture. They analyze the sociopathic CEO mentality, and why executives feel they can dehumanize actors and writers. The guys also explore a few potential scenarios of the strikes such as the...
The Identity Dilemma of The Multi-Hyphenate 02.07.2023 43:57
In this episode of "Brown and Black," hosts Jack Rico and Mike Sargent discuss the need to challenge the stigma surrounding multi-hyphenates and the superficial nature of the question, "What do you do?" They emphasize the importance of recognizing one's own values and personal branding, highlighting passions and values instead of specific skills. By reframing the conversation, multi-hyphenates of...
Rome Flynn Talks Afro-Latino Representation, SAG Strike Fears, and the Dream of Portraying Roberto Clemente 16.06.2023 39:08
Actor and musician Rome Flynn joins the podcast to discuss his reprised role as Santiago Zayas in Season 2 of Amazon's hit rom-com series, 'With Love'. In our conversation, we discussed the importance of "casting authentically," the escalating concerns about actors' self-audition tapes, and Flynn's thoughts on the potential havoc a SAG strike could inflict on the Hollywood industry. We also broach...
Pulitzer-Winning Composer Michael Abels on Race, AI and Being Black in Classical Music 07.06.2023 31:58
In this special episode of Brown & Black, we sit down with recent Pulitzer Prize-winning, Emmy and Grammy-nominated composer Michael Abels. We take a journey through his life, his passion for music, the challenges he faced as a Black composer in the 1980s, and his latest work on the film "Chevalier," based on the life of Joseph Bologne in the 1800s. We asked him about the barriers he overcame as a...
Grammy CEO Talks Artist Rights, Mexican Music, and the Future of AI in Music 03.06.2023 33:47
In this episode, we welcome back the CEO of the Recording Academy, Harvey Mason Jr. , to discuss the pressing issues currently facing musicians of color, such as the advancement of AI-generated music, the struggle for fair compensation, and the rise of Regional Mexican Music as a global force. We explore how the Grammys are addressing these issues, and pose the question: Will AI ever win a Grammy...
Singer GOTOPO: Reimagining Afro-indigenous Identity Through Ancestral Futurism 14.05.2023 40:08
In this episode, we are joined by Afro-Venezuelan and Afro-Indigenous singer 'GOTOPO,' who tells us about her new song "Sacudete" and delves into the intriguing concept of 'Ancestral Futurism,' an artistic approach that fuses the past, present, and future of pop culture while exploring heritage and identity. GOTOPO highlights the significance of connecting with cultural roots and using art to crea...
WGA Strike & The Latino Renaissance: The Persistent Struggle For Creators of Color 01.05.2023 42:13
In this episode of Brown & Black, Jack and Mike discuss two central topics affecting creators of color – the ongoing negotiations between the WGA (Writer's Guild of America) and Hollywood studios, and the invisible Latino renaissance in America that's receiving little recognition from mainstream legacy media. Segment 1: The Writer's Guild of America Strike and Its Impact on Creators of Color Jack...
AIR's White Savior Complex and the Age of Digital Distrust 10.04.2023 38:39
In this episode, we delve into the adverse effects of AI-generated images on media and their growing impact. We'll discuss the recent controversy over Levi's partnership with LalaLand.ai and debate if AI-inclusive modeling serves as a positive force. Furthermore, we'll examine the white savior narrative issues in the film AIR, directed by Ben Affleck and starring Matt Damon, and consider the signi...
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