Meg Ferrell
Born to Be Free: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, & Thrive
A podcast for professionals looking to support the deepest wellbeing of their neurodivergent clients. We focus on lived experiences, research, affirming practices, intersectionality, and the practical ways we can support authentic wellbeing. Visit learnplaythrive.com/podcast/
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Meg Ferrell
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Jul 1, 2026
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Episodes
A Therapist's Guide to Supporting Authentic, Autistic Social Communication with Rachel Dorsey and V Tisi 05.07.2023 1:04:30
We know by now that Autistic adults are the real experts on how Autistic people experience the world. In this episode, Autistic SLPs Rachel Dorsey and V Tisi take us deeper than we’ve ever gone into how we can understand and support authentic, Autistic social communication in any context. If you listen to this episode and want to keep learning, check out their newly released CE course Let’s UNMASC...
Organizing for a Better Future with Finn Gardiner 21.06.2023 40:58
What can those of us working in behaviorally oriented spaces do to try and protect the well-being of our Autistic clients? What impact does shame have on the wellbeing of Autistic kids? What's it like to be a Black Autistic organizer in mostly white spaces? Why should we shift from a charity model to a direct aid model in supporting marginalized groups? In this episode, we dive into all of these i...
Gender-Affirming Voice Care for Autistic Clients with Ruchi Kapila 07.06.2023 51:59
In this episode we talk about the experience of trans and gender non-conforming Autistic people and their voices. Our guest, SLP Ruchi Kapila, has a really unique practice where they support their clients to use their voices in ways that feel authentic to them and their gender identity. But this episode isn't just for SLP’s: the lessons about gender-affirming care are relevant to all of us support...
Who has a seat at the table? Thinking beyond representation and advocacy with Reyma McCoy Hyten 17.05.2023 46:13
In this episode, Reyma McCoy Hyten helps us explore the root causes of oppression for Autistic people, and sit with the discomfort of examining our role in it. Reyma McCoy Hyten is Autistic and was the first Black woman to ever serve as the US Department of Health and Human Services Commissioner for the Administration on Disabilities. After two decades as a helping professional, Reyma now focuses...
Unmasking Autism in Action with Dr. Devon Price 03.05.2023 52:04
In this episode, our guest, Dr. Devon Price, helps us explore the concepts of masking and authenticity and how we, as professionals supporting Autistic people, can push back against these pressures. We also explore some of the more foundational questions around being Autistic and neurodiversity. Dr. Devon Price is a social psychologist, professor, author, and proudly Autistic person. He has writte...
Changing the World with Books, Narwhals, and Letting Kids Say “No” with Lei Wiley-Mydske 19.04.2023 33:27
This conversation starts with books, then goes into more books, takes a turn into self-advocacy, and then finishes with a powerful message for therapists working with Autistic kids. And if you're wondering, we'll get to the narwhals too. Our guest, Lei Wiley-Mydske, is an Autistic and otherwise neurodivergent and disabled writer, artist, advocate, activist, and parent. Lei runs so many cool projec...
Safety as the Foundation for Everything with Dr. Gillian Boudreau 05.04.2023 47:36
Often as OTs and SLPs we skip right to teaching our Autistic clients new skills. But what about their feelings of felt safety while they are with us? What work do we need to do so that we can show up calm and connected and ready to support our Autistic kids to feel truly safe enough to learn? Psychologist and school psychologist Dr. Gillian Boudreau talks us through this essential and often over-l...
Helping Autistic PDAers feel Safe with Casey Ehrlich 15.03.2023 48:12
Autistic PDAers need different kinds of supports to feel safe. And before we can provide those, we have to get curious and learn about their needs. Casey Ehrlich from At Peace Parents helps us learn how to foster true safety for our PDA clients. Content warning: this episode includes a detailed description of Autistic burnout for a young child. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed...
Research that Centers Autistic Well-Being as Defined by Autistics with Dr. T.C. Waisman 01.03.2023 39:16
Far too often research centers outcomes that actually harm Autistic people. Today’s guest, Dr. T.C. Waisman, helps us move toward research that centers Autistic well-being as defined by Autistics. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
Gestalt Language Processing Q&A with Alex Zachos 15.02.2023 40:48
In this episode, we field listener questions to Alex Zachos of Meaningful Speech to learn how we can more authentically and effectively support kids who learn language through delayed echolalia. This episode is a follow-up to Episode 40 on supporting Gestalt Language Processors. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com For more episodes visit pat...
The Children Who Deserve a Better World with Meghan Ashburn & Jules Edwards 01.02.2023 55:24
Today’s guests, Meghan Ashburn from Not an Autism Mom , and Jules Edwards from Autistic, Typing , will be our guides in examining how we as professionals can create the world Autistic kids and their families deserve. Together we’ll dig through everything that is happening now for families of Autistic kids including going through the diagnostic process, finding a community of families for support...
A Social Curriculum that Centers Authenticity with Carolyn Long and Nick Kelsch 18.01.2023 45:55
This episode is about how we as therapists build something different to support our autistic clients' social and emotional development, with our ethics and values guiding us and our autistic students as our co-creators. Our guests are SLP Carolyn Long of Social Optics and her student-turned-colleague, Nick. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com...
Sensory Processing in Everyday Life with Dr. Winnie Dunn 21.12.2022 51:00
Dr. Winnie Dunn totally changed how we think about sensory processing for Autistic people. In this episode, we explore a person-centered, strengths-based way to consider our Autistic clients’ sensory needs in their daily lives. We also get Dr. Dunn’s advice on how to use her tool – The Sensory Profile II – in a way that will make your work easier and more impactful. This is a re-release of episode...
How to Reduce Adult Demands to Increase Autistic Joy with Amanda Diekman 07.12.2022 49:37
There’s a tool that is missing from most of our therapy bags: it’s lowering the demands for our Autistic clients. This tool is irreplaceable for helping Autistic people recover from the burnout cycle, and even for preventing burnout all together. Amanda Diekman (“Low Demand Amanda”) helps us figure out how to do just that. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit le...
Culturally Responsive Therapy for Native Autistic Kids with Jules Edwards 16.11.2022 51:07
How does the historical and present-day trauma of Native Autistic kids impact their experience of our therapy? And how does the linear worldview of non-Native therapists create a gap between us and our Native clients? In this episode, Jules Edwards, who is Anishinaabe and Autistic, talks about culturally responsive therapy for supporting Native Autistic kids. For show notes as well as in-person a...
When Autistic Kids Become Adults: Authentic Participation & Community Access with Dr. Kristy Coxon & Dr. Caroline Mills 02.11.2022 52:16
In this episode, Dr. Kristy Coxon and Dr. Caroline Mills look at how we can support Autistic people’s meaningful participation in daily life as they enter older adulthood. And then they help us apply these lessons to supporting Autistic people of any age, in any setting. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com For more episodes visit patreon.com/...
Breaking Out of the Medical Model with Dr. Mel Houser 19.10.2022 52:16
EPISODE SUMMARY The medical model is pervasive, and it asks us to silo the health needs of our Autistic clients. But our Autistic clients are full people, and their needs are intertwined. In this episode, Autistic primary care physician Mel Houser helps us reimagine healthcare and other systems that aren't working for the Autistic community, breaking down access barriers and implementing universal...
Supporting Multiply Disabled Kids: Parent Perspectives 05.10.2022 48:50
In this three part episode, we hear from parents of multiply disabled kids on their experiences of inclusion in the schools, collaborating with therapists, and AAC. This episode takes us back in time into the history of the disability rights movement in the US and then to the present day, with practical advice that should guide how we support multiply disabled Autistic clients. Our guests include...
Culturally Responsive Therapy: A Moral Imperative with AC Goldberg 21.09.2022 51:28
Here’s the truth: if we aren’t engaging in a process to learn about our clients’ cultures and our own biases, we are likely causing harm. In this episode, intersex and transgendered SLP AC Goldberg helps us explore how culturally responsive care can be the difference between causing micro-traumas for our clients or creating meaningful, positive relationships. We talk about gender, race, class and...
Picky Eating, PDA, & PICA: What Every Feeding Therapist Should Know with Laura Hellfeld 07.09.2022 46:09
Ready to dive deeper into neurodiversity-affirming approaches to feeding? Our guest Laura Hellfeld, Public Health Nurse, explores the relationship between PDA and feeding, dives into eating disorders, and shares her personal experience with PICA. This episode will take you deeper into dismantling ableist approaches to supporting picky eaters of all ages. For show notes as well as in-person and liv...
Affirming Approaches to Picky Eating: Moving Beyond Systematic Desensitization with Naureen Hunani 17.08.2022 37:17
In this episode, neurodivergent RD Naureen Hunani helps us unpack the harm of systematic desensitization for picky eating in autistic kids. Then she lays out a framework for what we can do to support picky eaters in a more affirming way. This episode will inspire you to reassess everything you thought you knew about best practices in feeding therapy. For show notes as well as in-person and livest...
Listener Q&A: All About AAC with Kate McLaughlin 03.08.2022 52:47
Have questions on teaching AAC to your autistic clients? Kate McLaughlin, M.S., CCC-SLP has answers! In this episode we field listener questions to Kate and get her insight on the ins and outs of teaching AAC without prompting, where to start for beginners, getting parent buy-in, working with kids who hit the same button repeatedly, choosing the right software and grid size, paying for devices, an...
Strengths Based Diagnostics & "The Legend of Autistica" with Matt Lowry 20.07.2022 1:04:27
In this episode, Autistic psychology practitioner Matt Lowry helps us dive into what a strengths-based diagnostics process looks like for autism, and the incredible difference this can make. We also explore what parents and other professionals should look for to find a neurodiversity-affirming evaluator when making a referral. And Matt reads us a story that he wrote called The Legend of Autistica,...
We Can't Address Disability Without Addressing Race - with Lydia X. Z. Brown 06.07.2022 33:30
Lydia X. Z. Brown is an autistic attorney and disability justice advocate who specifically focuses on violence against multiply-marginalized disabled people. Join us as we explore how racism impacts the lives of Brown, Black and Indigenous Autistic people, and what steps therapists should take to move towards an anti-racist practice. This is a replay of episode 3 and we think you just can't hear i...
How To Change the System: An OT, SLP, And Physicist's Story with Sam Brandsen, Janelle Fenwick, & Jenna Meehan 15.06.2022 54:30
This episode is the story of how an autistic physicist, an autistic occupational therapist, and a neurotypical speech language pathologist came together to try and break down the barriers to truly authentic inclusion for autistic kids in Durham, North Carolina. Our guests, Sam Brandsen, Janelle Fenwick, and Jenna Meehan are a neurodiverse group of therapists, researchers, and parents who set out t...
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