Books of Some Substance

David, Eric, and Nick dive into The Vegetarian, a 2007 novel by Han Kang that, after its English translation, won the 2016 Man Booker International Prize. This compact work will appeal to anyone interested in tightly architected narrative structures, complex questions of individual agency, and visceral scenes situated right next to moments of quiet contemplation.   One's ability to choose, well, a...

Nathan, David, and Nick tackle Sodom and Gomorrah , the fourth volume of Marcel Proust's In Search of Lost Time . They discuss how groundbreaking it was at the time to so openly write about homosexuality, the noticeable increase in the narrator's presence in the book's happenings, and the increased level of action in play (at least in comparison to prior volumes, that is). Listen in as you continu...

Seth — aficionado of difficult fiction and driving force behind WASTE Mailing List — joins the podcast this episode to chat with David about the endless gifts to be found within the endless layers of Thomas Pynchon's The Crying of Lot 49 . Pynchon-lite it is not! Encompassing both the absurd and the prophetic, this early work by the reclusive author covers everything from embedded allusions to the...

David, Nathan, and Nick continue their journey through Marcel Proust's In Search of Lost Time , this time discussing the third volume, The Guermantes Way . While this one might very well be "a middle book" — and by proximity, this episode "a middle episode" — there is continued brilliance to be enjoyed (if one can make it through the marathon salon scenes, that is). Come for the deep dives on The...

Writer, interviewer, and heavy reader George Salis returns to the podcast, this time to discuss Alexander Theroux's Fables with David. The two tackle a list of maximalist topics: deep cuts of vocabulary (real and invented), the forever ongoing inclusions of edits and additions that make a work expand even after being published, and, well, lists themselves. Salis also provides insight into the worl...

David, Eric, and Nick seek out some mid-summer spookiness in Shirley Jackson's acclaimed We Have Always Lived in the Castle and instead find a compact work that is much more complicated than the horror themes, accessible sentences, and vaguely young adult-ish book cover (thanks Penguin Classics) lead one to believe. Cheers to Jackson for walking the line between genre and literary fiction and forc...

David, Nick, and Nathan reconvene to continue their Proust pilgrimage, this time tackling the second volume, Within a Budding Grove . There is discussion around the narrator's age — whether it be twelve or twenty-two, Proust certainly has a knack for combining the idealism and naiveté of youth with the insight and wisdom of adulthood. There is discussion around the book's repetition of similar eve...

David, Eric, and Nick spend a beautiful Saturday doing what they love: wading into the tides of the irrational, crushing systems in which we have existed, currently exist, and will continue to exist. In other words: Discussing Franz Kafka!   Three of Kafka's short works provide more than enough to chew on, whether it is The Judgment and its quick turn from mundane to surreal, A Country Doctor and...

No more searching is necessary. It's time. It's time to read In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust, that is. And we here at Books of Some Substance will be doing just that, starting off with this episode on the first volume, Swann's Way . Listen in as David, Nick, and Nathan begin this long journey by attempting to summarize the actual events in the book (likely to be a recurring challenge); by...

David, Nick, and Nathan dive into Bohumil Hrabal's short novel Closely Watched Trains in this latest episode of the podcast. One part coming of age tale, one part (somewhat) epic tale of resistance, and one part celebration of life's beautiful banality, this compact work will have you simultaneously smirking and wincing as Hrabal somehow weaves the lightness of youth in with the darkness of living...

It is a homecoming of sorts. Sixteen years after David made Nathan read Jorge Luis Borges, the two return to discuss the great Argentinian writer in an episode that has as many labyrinths (well, not quite) and is as infinite (also probably not true) as every one of Borges' short stories. And while this episode does have a finite beginning and a finite end and can only focus on three of the hits (...

Renata Adler's Speedboat starts and stops, accelerates and leaps, soars and crashes just like some sort of . . . well, you get it. Join David, Nathan, and Nick as they discuss this compact novel filled with vignettes of 1970s life and all of the sardonic observations that come along with it. But do the vignettes combine to create something more impactful? Is the book funny?  And how does one defin...

Just because you bought a copy of W.G. Sebald's The Emigrants in the fiction section doesn't make it fiction. Or does it? Join Nathan, David, and Nick for a conversation about fiction vs. non-fiction vs. creative non-fiction vs. journalism vs. memoir vs. Nick's favorite genre of "who cares as long as you like it." Topics discussed also include: the way reading about memory triggers one's own memor...

Bay Area musician Taylor Vick of Boy Scouts joins the podcast this episode to share her love for George Saunders' The Tenth of December. Listen in as Taylor and Nick talk about the book's use of absurdist mechanisms to move the reader, the connections between Saunders' work and Boy Scouts, and their own attempts to explore new areas of art, despite any existing contextual baggage. Listening to thi...

In this episode, friend of the podcast and book club Eric Heiman joins David and Nathan to talk about W.G. Sebald's Rings of Saturn. The three get into the melancholic depiction of entropy eating away so much of human life, the sense of historical vertigo, and the (un)fictionality of the novel. Join the three as they discuss the style, form, and substance of Sebald's enigmatic work.

Aatif Rashid, author of the novel Portrait of Sebastian Khan , joins the podcast to profess his love for Anthony Powell's A Dance to the Music of Time . The one with, like, a million volumes? The one that's jam-packed with the subtleties of human interactions, relationships, and communications (or lack thereof)? The one that you saw on all of those "great books" lists, but has since slipped away f...

Ah yes, Hermann Hesse's Siddhartha . You probably read it in high school or college as a young seeker of truth, but have you read it later in life? Do the messages change after you too have gone out into the world and been both drawn to and broken by its sweet, empty promises? And most importantly, have you been pronouncing Siddhartha properly all this time? (We haven't.)   Join Nathan and David a...

Down with Napoleon! Long live Mother Russia! Ole Kutuzov and the gang aren't the only winners here. Anyone who has read through the entirety of War and Peace — David, Nathan, and Nick now counting themselves as part of the club — knows that Tolstoy's masterpiece and its ruminations on free will, history, and tragedy of both micro and macro proportions is and absolute joy and rather hard to stop th...

Novelist Mark Haber joins the podcast to talk about one of his underdogs: Santiago Gamboa and his excellent novel Necropolis. Necropolis is a novel full of narratives, soaked in storytelling, and driven by a cast of colorful characters seeking some kind of redemption. Mark and David dive into the novel's plots and craft, and Mark touches upon his own conversations with Gamboa and Gamboa's other wo...

Musician Ned Russin of Title Fight and Glitterer joins the podcast to share his love for Ben Lerner's Leaving the Atocha Station and to also chat about his own latest creations: Glitterer's new record Life Is Not a Lesson and his first published novel Horizontal Rust . It's an all-encompassing conversation on experience, reality, and authenticity — all topics that get more elusive the more one tri...

Third time's the charm! David, Nathan, and Nick march on through Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace , having now conquered Volume 3. Listen in as they talk through Tolstoy's increasingly direct commentary on the nature of history, Pierre's Christ-like and/or quixotic vibes, and how it all relates to . . . cryptocurrency? If Tolstoy gets to include lengthy digressions on beehives, maybe we can make a few...

In celebration of National Poetry Month, singer-songwriter and poet Valerie June calls into the podcast and chats with Nick about her love of The Gift: Poems by Hafiz (Renderings by Daniel Ladinsky) , the relationship between lyrics and poetry in her own work, and viewing the world through a positive lens. Additional topics include: Townes Van Zandt, time (i.e. what is it really ?), and whether we...

David, Nathan, and Nick continue their journey through Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace , this time tackling Volume Two. Characterized by a little less war and a lot more peace, this volume offers plenty of saucy romance, costume-fueled shenanigans, and overly long hunting scenes. Listen in as we recap the many love triangles, discuss the nature of moral fiction, and reveal who most identifies with the...

Nick chats with Jesse Cash, guitarist and vocalist of the progressive metal band ERRA, about Cormac McCarthy on this latest episode of the Books of Some Substance podcast. The book at hand is Suttree , a tale of a troubled man who has left an affluent past to live in a dilapidated houseboat and hang out in the underbelly of society. The two discuss McCarthy's masterful use of both complex and simp...

David, Eric, and Nick discuss Volume 1 of Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace in the first of four episodes on the heaviest of heavy books.  Topics include: War and Peace as the ur-text for all war novels to come, the nature and role of translation, and how Tolstoy's realism can be surprisingly light and humorous when dealing with dark subjects.   But the question remains: Are there more casualties on the...