Jo Frances Penn

Books And Travel

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Unusual and fascinating places alongside the deeper aspects of travel

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Jo Frances Penn

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Society

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Latest episode

Nov 20, 2025

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Travel That Changes The Way You Think About The World With Pam Mandel 13.05.2021

“We’re all so far downstream from who we used to be.” Pam Mandel We all have ideas about places that are far away from us, but when you talk to real people who live there, it’s hard to hold on to your preconceived notions. Those encounters can remain with you in memory even as you change and the place you left changes too. Pam Mandel is an award-winning freelance travel writer and co-founder of Th...

A Speck On The Ocean. Sailing The Pacific With Nadine Slavinski 29.04.2021

Imagine sailing through the night across the Pacific Ocean with the sound of a gentle wind on the sails, the creak of rigging, and an array of stars above you. Nadine Slavinski talks about the joys and challenges of sailing across the Pacific with her husband and son. Nadine Slavinski is an archaeologist turned teacher whose sailing adventures inspire her fiction and nonfiction books. Show notes T...

Exploring Darkness And Accepting Our Animal Nature With Tiffany Francis-Baker 15.04.2021

Experiencing the dark of night can help connect us with nature and perhaps we need to tap into that animal side more often in order to respect the cycle of the seasons, renew our energy and our mental health, and help wildlife that need it to survive. In this interview, we also talk about the attraction of pagan fire festivals and the Northern Lights, the power of light in the darkness, and how it...

Journeys In Search Of Ourselves. Secular Pilgrimage With Victoria Preston 01.04.2021

What does pilgrimage mean when you don’t adhere to a particular religious tradition? Can we find ever find ourselves when we travel, or will we be forever searching? Victoria Preston has roamed far and wide in her 30 years advising corporate and government clients around the world. She is an associate fellow at the King’s Centre for Strategic Communications, and her latest book is We Are Pilgrims:...

Curiosity, Wonder, And Serendipity. Hidden Travel with Steve Brock 18.03.2021

Sometimes it’s not the most iconic travel destinations that resonate most with us. Sometimes it’s the hidden places and the unexpected moments that echo in our memories many years later. In this episode, Steve Brock talks about how we can cultivate curiosity and blend serendipity with planning to make the most of our travels, as well as finding hidden places closer to home, and how we can use the...

Cathedrals, Dark History, And Coffee Culture. Vienna With Katharina Bordet 04.03.2021

Vienna brings to mind images of grand architecture, the sounds of classical music, and the smell of coffee and sacher torte. In this interview with Katarina Bordet, we explore the Gothic and Baroque churches, the museums, and the iconic coffee shops, as well as the darker places to visit — the asylum, the catacombs, and the echoes of psychiatry and fascism. The city is dense with history and cultu...

Complicated Histories, Sichuan, and Tibet. The Other Shangri-La With Shivaji Das 18.02.2021

In this episode, we escape to the mountains of the Tibetan Highlands, which lie at the intersection of the Sichuan and Yunan provinces in China , in search of Shangri-La. Shivaji Das talks about the stunning natural beauty in this remote place, and we also discuss the cultural clashes in the region and the people he met along the way. We talk about complicated histories , and how our view of a pla...

History, Faith, And Beauty. The Complete American Pilgrim With Howard Kramer 04.02.2021

What does it mean to be a secular pilgrim — when you’re not a Christian, but you love churches, history, beauty, and religious symbolism?  In this episode, Howard Kramer talks about some of the most beautiful places to visit in terms of architecture, as well as natural locations, and how sometimes, the most emotionally resonant places, those that inspire awe and wonder, are not the most famous, bu...

Not Quite Lost. Travels Without A Sense Of Direction With Roz Morris 21.01.2021

How can you see your own country with the eyes of an outsider? How can you follow your curiosity and discover new things about a place you already know? In this interview, Roz Morris talks about finding fragments and tiny miracles while exploring England and how we can experience our own land from a new perspective, increasingly important while we can’t travel in the way we used to. Roz Morris is...

The Gardens Of Mars. Madagascar With John Gimlette 07.01.2021

An island nation off the coast of Africa, Madagascar has an incredible diversity of unusual landscapes and wildlife , of which lemurs are the most famous but by no means the only ones! 90% of its flora and fauna are endemic, found nowhere else in the world. While there are some resorts, much of Madagascar is remote and escapes the influence of modern life with unique religious and cultural practic...

This Too Shall Pass. Thoughts From The Pilgrims’ Way With J.F. Penn 29.12.2020

“Man’s real home is not a house, but the Road, and that life itself is a journey to be walked on foot.” Bruce Chatwin In late October 2020, I walked the Pilgrims’ Way from Southwark Cathedral in London to Canterbury Cathedral in Kent, 182 km/113 miles on foot, alone, carrying my own gear… during a global pandemic. A Roman road 2000 years ago, the route became popular for pilgrims after the martyrd...

Lava Fields, Trolls, And The Hidden People. Iceland with Michael Ridpath 10.12.2020

From the ice of the glaciers to the black church near the lava fields and on to the steaming hot pools of the blue lagoon, Iceland is a country of stark natural beauty and interesting folklore. In this interview, Michael Ridpath talks about the hidden people, the trolls, and the ghosts in the mist, as well as the landscape as a character, and why he keeps returning to the country for inspiration....

Fjords, Vikings And The Northern Lights. Norway With David Nikel 26.11.2020

From the stunning Northern Lights of Lofoten, to the fjords of the western coast, scenic train journeys across the mountains, Viking history, and the culture of the cities, David Nikel evokes a country that has much to explore. In this pandemic year, I’m certainly dreaming of kayaking the fjords! David Nikel is a British writer specializing in all things Scandinavia. Since moving to Norway in 2011...

Life On The River. The Mississippi River Valley With Dean Klinkenberg 12.11.2020

“The face of the water, in time, became a wonderful book … it was not a book to be read once and thrown aside, for it had a new story to tell every day.” Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi The Mississippi River runs through ten states and has brought life to countless generations, from the first Native Americans, through to the settlers, and into the modern, industrial age. There are great cities...

Life Obsessed. Cemeteries, Graveyards And Ossuaries With Loren Rhoads 29.10.2020

“All that lives must die, passing through nature to eternity.” William Shakespeare, Hamlet If you enjoy walking in cemeteries, exploring graveyards, and discovering the artistic bone structures of ossuaries, then you’ll love this interview with Loren Rhoads. We discuss our mutual love of these places where nature often reigns in peace and beauty, and share our favorite places in Europe and North A...

Walk Your Own Race: Lessons Learned From Walking A 50km Ultramarathon 22.10.2020

“It’s not the mountain we conquer, it’s ourselves.” Edmund Hillary As I write this, I’ve started four ultra-marathons and finished three of them. I did the Race to the Stones 100km in a weekend (2016); Cotswold Way 50km (2017); Isle of Wight 50km (2018 — I dropped out at 22km); Chiltern Challenge 50km (2020). I’ve learned something new each time and my most recent event went absolutely perfectly....

Facing Fears And Changing Your Mind While Traveling. Cycling Around The World With Doug Walsh 15.10.2020

If you spend years planning your dream trip, what happens when life gets in the way? Do you change your plans or do you plow on regardless? Is the journey more important than the destination, and are you living in a way that honors that choice? In this wide-ranging interview with Doug Walsh, we talk about how fears and expectations can shape our travel experiences, and what we can learn about ours...

Murder In Paradise. Mallorca With JJ Marsh 01.10.2020

“Traveling – it leaves you speechless, then turns you into a storyteller.” Ibn Battuta Mallorca is a beautiful Spanish island in the Balearics, rich with history and culture, from the medieval architecture of Palma’s old town to the picturesque coastal village of Deia and the mountainous interior. Many come to the relaxed island for an escape, but others imagine murder in paradise. In this intervi...

Solo Long-Distance Walking In England With Holly Worton 17.09.2020

“Man’s real home is not a house, but the Road, and life itself is a journey to be walked on foot. ” Bruce Chatwin Walking for a longer-distance can bring clarity of mind, a reconnection with nature, and a sense of well-being that does not emerge with a short stroll. It takes time to settle into your physical body, and walking an ancient path can help take you into that deeper state. In this episod...

History As A Fine Art. Victorian London With David Morrell 03.09.2020

If you look below the surface of an ancient city, you can travel through time and find its deeper layers. In this episode, David Morrell talks about how he researched Victorian London for his historical mysteries about Thomas De Quincey, and how he brought to light the “chasms and sunless abysses” of the first British serial killer. David Morrell is the multi-award-winning and many times bestselli...

Druids, Freemasons and Frankenstein. The Darker Side of Bath, England 20.08.2020

Bath is known for its ancient Roman spa, medieval abbey, and sweeping Georgian terraces. It’s a UNESCO World Heritage site in Somerset in the south-west of England and visitors often come on a circular cultural trip that takes in Stonehenge and Stratford-on-Avon. But it’s not all Jane Austen bonnets, Regency dresses, and afternoon tea — there is a darker and more interesting side of Bath if you es...

Finding Beauty In The Ordinary. A Different Side Of Poland With Ben Aitken 06.08.2020

In this wide-ranging interview with Ben Aitken, we talk about challenging cultural stereotypes, identifying as the ‘Other,’ and how to find beauty in the ordinary , as well as thoughts on where to visit and what to eat and drink when visiting Poland. Ben Aitken is a freelance writer, playwright, and the author of three travel books. Today, we’re talking about his book, A Chip Shop in Poznan: My Un...

Travels In Blood And Honey. Kosovo With Elizabeth Gowing 23.07.2020

The word Kosovo brings to mind images of the Balkan War — a place of blood — but Elizabeth Gowing talks about it as a place of sweetness, a place of honey with wonderful food, welcoming people and a complex patchwork of religion that manages to get along together in a tiny country. She also explains how her unexpected move to Kosovo led to her love of beekeeping and a new direction helping local c...

A Pocket Of Wilderness: Adventure Travel With Anna McNuff 09.07.2020

Adventure is a mindset. You can find it in a pocket of wilderness in your local area just by doing something different and seeking out the unusual — or you can find it by running Great Britain barefoot, cycling the Andes, and running the length of New Zealand! In this interview, adventurer Anna McNuff talks about the definition of adventure, finding the element of the unknown, encouraging young pe...

Full Moon Over Noah’s Ark. Ararat With Rick Antonson 25.06.2020

The word Ararat brings to mind an adventure into myth and history and in this episode, I talk to Rick Antonson about his journey to the fabled resting place of Noah’s Ark, as well as some of the research into Biblical history and ancient myths of the flood. My ARKANE thrillers center around Biblical archaeology, history, and myth, so this was a particularly exciting interview for me! Rick Antonson...

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