Bodies Behind The Bus

In this episode, Jay and Johnna debrief the 2025 Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting. They discuss why Johnna chose to attend alone, the deaths of two high-profile survivors—Jennifer Lyell and Duane Rollins—and the emotional and physical toll survivor advocacy has taken. They reflect on the SBC’s failure to follow through on promised reforms, the lack of accountability, and the ongoing harm...

This episode examines the legacy of the Indian Removal Act of 1830 and draws a clear line from that policy to other moments of systemic injustice in American history—slavery, Japanese internment, discriminatory policing, and modern ICE raids. Through historical analysis and personal reflection, Jay challenges the narrative of American exceptionalism, exposes the role of the white church in reinfor...

Mollie Callahan, spiritual director and seminary student, joins to discuss the misuse of church discipline, its harmful impact, and how scripture has often been misapplied in these situations. She examines 1 Corinthians 5, Matthew 18, and stories like the woman caught in adultery, Zacchaeus, and the woman at the well to reframe church discipline through the lens of Jesus’ compassion, agency, and p...

In this episode, Joyce shares her story of involvement in a PCA church in Florida and how her experience of marriage, faith, and community unfolded over more than a decade. She describes the early support her family received, her deep investment in church life, and how that shifted when she began raising concerns about her marriage. Joyce outlines the church’s response, her efforts to seek counsel...

In this “At the Bus Stop” episode, Dr. Jared Stacy, a theologian and ethicist, joins Johnna and Jay to unpack the link between conspiracy theories, Christian nationalism, and the culture of abuse within white evangelical spaces. Drawing from his personal experience and academic research, Jared explores how storytelling shapes power, how conspiracy theories thrive in religious communities, and why...

Be sure to listen to episode 79 “Alicia’s Story” to hear about her experience with this same pastor. Alicia’s Story: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alicias-story-columbus-oh/id1601586078?i=1000663185044 Support the show

In this community conversation, the team from Bodies Behind the Bus responds to recent events involving The New Evangelicals and the release of a NetGrace investigation. They share their perspectives on accountability, integrity, and the responsibility of platforms in survivor spaces. Allegations against Tim Whitaker and The New Evangelicals show how hierarchy transfers to progressive ministries |...

Buy the book here! Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry by Beth Allison Barr, Hardcover | Barnes & Noble® In this episode of The Bodies Behind the Bus Podcast, we welcome Beth Allison Barr, historian, professor, and author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood and her latest book, Becoming the Pastor’s Wife. Beth shares her insights...

This episode of Bodies Behind the Bus features Margaret Bronson and Eric Isaac discussing the rise of Christian nationalism and its intersection with fundamentalist cult beliefs. Margaret shares insights from her experience in a high-control religious group, highlighting issues of female subjugation, the quiverfull movement, lack of education, and financial entrapment. Eric connects these experien...

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Walker contact: walkerbbtb@gmail.com Crissie contact: inspiredifferences@gmail.com Link to Transcript from Concerned Congregant meeting (200 in attendance) - October 2021 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MUJ_ri2nuRP2vnAf6oU1iXIGljSVFHu3/view?usp=sharing Congregant Feedback Survey (leadership stated they didn't think there were any concerns following the October meeting, and then refused to st...

Walker contact: walkerbbtb@gmail.com Crissie contact: inspiredifferences@gmail.com NDA document  - https://drive.google.com/file/d/11mn6mrHTZ4VVvEQAUHZnqwCgRd5IHlaS/view?usp=sharing Find more information, and future stories here - https://chapelillbiblechurch.org/   Keep up with all things on X @CHBConfidential  Support the show

Chapel Hill Bible Church: Pastor Eric McKiddie Is Gone and Pastor Jay Thomas Is Under Fire - thewartburgwatch.com Chapel Hill Bible Church: A Petition Signed by 78 and the Use of NDAs to Keep Things on the Down Low. What’s Going On With the Leaders? - thewartburgwatch.com Prominent North Carolina Church Embroiled in Controversy Following Alleged Abuse & 3 Investigations - julieroys.com Chapel...

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Watch the video of this episode HERE Support the Podcast HERE In this episode, the Bodies Behind the Bus board gathers to discuss the heavy realities of navigating faith, justice, and advocacy in a fractured America. They explore the impact of systemic religious abuse, the emboldening of harmful rhetoric, and the personal toll of continuing to fight for marginalized communities. The episode is a c...

FOR OUR DAUGHTERS Official Film Link Support the show

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Episode Resources: https://www.netgrace.org/resources/to-suffer-in-silence Male Survivor Stories - DAVID PITTMAN https://together-we-heal.org https://www.netgrace.org/independent-investigations Support the show

Wartburg Watch: https://thewartburgwatch.com/2024/07/19/an-sbc-and-9-marks-church-edgefield-nashville-appeared-to-allow-a-violent-convicted-pedophile-michael-brake-considerable-freedom-in-the-church-for-years-could-there-be-other-victims/ Simon’s blog: https://cheapgrace.substack.com/ Dave Pittman NetGRACE video: https://youtu.be/26E4bRweK6E?feature=shared Support the show

Ep Resources: Mental Health/Psychology Parenting from the Inside Out by Dan Siegel and Mary Hartzell On Grief and Grieving by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross and David Kessler She Deserves Better by Sheila Wray Gregoire, Rebecca Gregoire Lindenbach, and Joanna Sawatsky Worthy by Elyse Fitzpatrick and Eric Schumacher (this is the book I couldn’t remember in the podcast!) The Body Keeps the Score by Bessell v...

What is Clergy Sexual Abuse? (Video) clergysexualmisconduct.com Contact Stephanie: s.nelsonbbtb@gmail.com Support the show