Evan Epstein
Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein
In-depth interview podcast with leading corporate governance experts, including world-class founders, scholars, board members, executives, investors and more. The content is structured as a long-form conversation to explore not only the latest corporate governance trends, but also to get some personal insights from some of the best and brightest minds behind America's boardrooms.
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Evan Epstein
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Mauro Cunha: Governance and Board Experience from Brazil. 23.10.2023 50:37
0:00 -- Intro. 1:38-- About this podcast's sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . 2:34 -- Start of interview. 3:13 -- Mauro's "origin story." 4:11 -- About AMEC , and his time as CEO of the organization (2012-2017). Prior, he was Chairman of IBGC (2008-2010). "My first mission as CEO of AMEC was to become the first independent director at Petrobras " (which he served from 2013 to 2...
Brian Stafford, CEO of Diligent: "Companies That Do ESG The Right Way, Tie It Back To Their Strategy." 16.10.2023 45:00
0:00 -- Intro. 1:21-- About this podcast's sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . 2:17 -- Start of interview. 2:49 -- Brian's "origin story." He founded a startup that sold cars online in the dot com era (CarOrder) based out of Austin TX. He later worked at McKinsey & Co. From there he moved to Diligent as CEO. 6:17 -- The history, mission and current focus of Diligent Corporation ....
Joyce Cacho: "ESG Provides An Opportunity To Do Some Hard Work." 09.10.2023 59:38
0:00 -- Intro. 1:10 -- About new podcast sponsor American College of Governance Counsel . 2:28 -- Start of interview. 3:17 -- Joyce's "origin story" 5:22 -- Joyce's academic focus and executive career before joining boards of directors. 8:12 -- On her board journey . "It began with non-profit board work." On serving in different types of boards. "They all offered an opportunity to collaborate wit...
Suzanne Brown: The NYSE Board Diversity Initiative. 26.09.2023 53:38
0:00 -- Intro. 1:43 -- Start of interview. 2:11 -- Suzanne's "origin story" "One of my proudest jobs was working with the NJ Pandemic Relief Fund " 14:12 -- Joining the NYSE Board Diversity Initiative . *reference to Chief ("the only private membership network focused on connecting and supporting women executive leaders") 15:22 -- Three key NYSE ESG Initiatives: The NYSE Sustainability Advisory Co...
Victor Arias: "Boards Are Looking For Strong Core Values: Integrity, Ethics, Leadership and Judgment." 18.09.2023 51:08
0:00 -- Intro. 2:02 -- Start of interview. 3:02 -- Victor's "origin story" 5:30 -- Joining Stanford University's Board of Trustees , and later the board of Popeye’s Louisiana Kitchen (NASDAQ: PLKI). 9:06 -- His current position as Managing Director and Practice Leader, Consumer and Retail at Diversified Search Group , working primarily in the Board of Directors practice. He is the leader of the f...
HBO’s Succession with Sean Berkowitz and Kate O’Leary (Season 3) 11.09.2023 1:10:45
0:00 -- Intro. *reference to our episodes reviewing Succession Season 1: E98 of this podcast (May 22, 2023) and Season 2: E102 (June 26, 2023). 2:00 -- Start of interview. 3:50 -- About Sean Berkowitz and the Enron Case: prosecuting Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling (2006). 7:05 -- On whistleblowers and avoiding retaliation. "Whistleblowers are one of the trickiest things you can deal with as counsel rep...
Heidi Roizen: On Startup Governance and The Startup Solution. 05.09.2023 1:01:21
(0:00) Intro. (1:35) Start of interview. *Link to our first episode: E6 from June 2020 . (2:18) On the origin story of her new podcast: The Startup Solution with Heidi Roizen . (4:23) The Case of the Boardroom Blow-Up . How entrepreneurs should go from 'pitching' to 'partnering' with their investors. "Entrepreneurs get stuck in pitch mode." On terms "happy ears" and "jazz handy." On the golden r...
David Larcker and Brian Tayan on "The Art and Practice of Corporate Governance." 28.08.2023 1:02:01
0:00 -- Intro. 1:38 -- Start of interview. 2:26 -- On the origin story of their latest book: " The Art and Practice of Corporate Governance ." 7:32 -- About the Boeing 737Max case . The cultural shift. "Safety was just a given." 12:29 -- About Netflix's "Radical Transparency in the Boardroom." Reference to their 2010 case study " Equity on Demand, the Netflix Approach to Compensation ." 18:37 --...
Lisa Shalett: "We Are in a High Velocity Environment of Tremendous Change." 14.08.2023 1:00:39
0:00 -- Intro. 1:21 -- Start of interview. 2:10 -- Lisa's "origin story" 2:59 -- Her connection to Japan . 6:29 -- Her experience in investing banking, mostly with Goldman Sachs (20-year career). 15:55 -- On her board journey , and the distinctions between serving on private (VC or PE backed) and public boards. 19:57 -- On Extraordinary Women on Boards , the organization she co-founded in 2017 t...
Benjamin Means and Douglas Moll: Governance in Closely Held Corporations. 24.07.2023 1:02:32
0:00 -- Intro. 1:38 -- Start of interview. 2:31 -- Benjamin Mean 's "origin story." He is a Professor of Law and the John T. Campbell Chair in Business and Professional Ethics at the University of South Carolina School of Law. 4:14 -- On family businesses, legal education and the Family and Small Business Program at the University of South Carolina School of Law. 5:55 -- Douglas Moll 's "origin s...
Cynthia Jamison: "In this Downturn Boards Should Focus on Liquidity and Incentive Plans." 17.07.2023 1:01:10
0:00 -- Intro. 1:09 -- Start of interview. 1:37 -- Cindie's "origin story." 3:41 -- On her executive career before joining boards. 5:31 -- On her turnaround CFO career. Joining Tatum , an executive services firm, and her CFO turnaround/crisis practice. 15:14-- Her transition to public company board service . Her first board role in 2003 with Horizon Organic Holdings (based in Denver, CO). "The CE...
Alicia Syrett: "The Chair Should Focus the Agenda Primarily on Strategic Discussions." 10.07.2023 54:11
0:00 -- Intro. 1:18 -- Start of interview. 1:53 -- Alicia's "origin story" and her career in finance and search/recruiting industry. 4:52 -- Her role founding investment firms. She was the first employee and CAO at Mount Kellett Capital Management and founded Pantegrion Capital , an investment vehicle focused on seed and early stage investments. 7:02 -- Her journey in the corporate board world. S...
HBO’s Succession “The Dumpster Fire Pirate Death Ship” (Season 2) 26.06.2023 1:14:03
0:00 -- Intro. *Note: you can check out our analysis of Succession's first season in E98 of this podcast (published on May 22nd, 2023). 1:43 -- Start of interview. 4:03 -- Governance challenges to family-owned companies . 5:50 -- On Kendall's car accident and legal implications. Issues of corporate wellness , mental issues and drug-use . *Story on Tyson Foods' CFO . 10:55 -- Waystar’s response to...
Georgia Stewart: On Stewardship, Pass-Through Voting and Shareholder Democracy. 19.06.2023 48:17
0:00 -- Intro. 1:16 -- Start of interview. 1:55 -- Georgia's "origin story". 2:42 -- The founding story of her company Tumelo . 5:37 -- On their differentiation with the divestment movement. Referenced: ShareAction , AMNT. 8:01-- On her role as a member of Aviva's Independent Governance Committee . 10:15 -- On the rise of institutional investors and their impact on corporate governance, along wit...
Leo E. Strine, Jr.: Good Corporate Citizenship We Can All Get Behind? 05.06.2023 1:26:36
0:00 -- Intro. 3:45 -- Start of interview. 5:09 -- Leo's "origin story". His focus on public service, and work for then Delaware Governor (now U.S. Senator) Tom Carper . 9:41 -- On his time at Skadden 's Wilmington office. 11:52 -- On his time at the Delaware Court of Chancery and as Chief Justice of the Delaware Supreme Court . 15:32-- His views on the evolution (and strengths) of the Delaware...
Barrett Cohn: "Companies Now Stay Private Long." 30.05.2023 57:41
0:00 -- Intro. 1:30 -- Start of interview. 2:12 -- Barrett's "origin story". 6:11 -- His start in finance. First in Stone & Youngberg then in Lehman Brothers in SF. His first secondary market transactions in private company stock (Facebook) in 2007. 8:54-- His experience working at SVB (internship with wine finance team) and Lehman Brothers (business development). 12:10 -- The early days of second...
Kate O'Leary: HBO's Succession from the Perspective of an Experienced In-House Lawyer (Season 1). 22.05.2023 1:07:02
0:00 -- Intro. 1:38 -- Start of interview. 3:23 -- Kate's origin story and her professional background. 4:54 -- About the ESG & Law Institute led by David Curran from Paul Weiss (Kate serves as an advisory board member). 7:08 -- Premise of HBO's Succession show . "It's a show about power dynamics. But it's also a show about governance, and how power is or not constrained in the corporate world, th...
Dan Siciliano: The Banking Crisis and Governance Implications. 15.05.2023 1:20:52
0:00 -- Intro. 1:41 -- Start of interview. 2:58 -- On current market conditions. Impact of interest rate hikes by the Federal Reserve , particularly on banks. 3:35 -- The gap between news coverage, what people think is happening and what actually is happening on the ground. The example of First Republic . 15:37-- How 'bank runs' have changed. The Meme Run . "A meme is a first impression decision-m...
Bethany Mayer: On Cybersecurity Governance, Risk and Strategy. 08.05.2023 1:00:48
0:00 -- Intro. 1:35 -- Start of interview. 2:15 -- Bethany's "origin story". 3:35 -- Her experience working at Lockheed Martin . 5:55-- Her transition to Apple Computer , Cisco , startups in networking technologies and Blue Coat . 8:17 -- Her time at HP , where ended running the Networking division. 8:55 -- Her role as CEO of Ixia (later sold to Keysight Technologies for $1.6bn in 2017) 10:17 -- O...
Karen Francis: "An Effective Lead Director Needs to Have Excellent EQ (Emotional Quotient)." 01.05.2023 1:01:27
0:00 -- Intro. 2:00 -- Start of interview. 2:28 -- Karen's "origin story". 3:24 -- Her management career at Procter & Gamble , Bain & Co (focusing on property and casualty insurance), Berol , GM , ICG and Ford (where she led the Corporate Venture Capital Group) . 11:12 -- Her transition to SF/Bay Area and tech as CEO of Publicis & Hal Riney and AcademixDirect . 13:23 -- Distinctions between opera...
Alan Jagolinzer: "Having a Holistic Approach to Information is Critical." 24.04.2023 59:34
0:00 -- Intro. 1:35 -- Start of interview. 2:05 -- Alan's "origin story". 2:43 -- On his background as a U.S. Air Force pilot . 4:42 -- On the evolution of his academic career, including at and Stanford GSB and U. of Colorado Boulder. 7:01 -- On his Professorship at Cambridge Judge Business School and his role as Co-Director of the Centre for Financial Reporting and Accountability . 9:16 -- About...
Penny Herscher: "The Chair of the Board has to Exercise Leadership by Listening rather than by Speaking." 17.04.2023 1:00:05
0:00 -- Intro. 1:35 -- Start of interview. 2:05 -- Penny's "origin story". 3:38 -- Her experience as CEO of Simplex including its IPO (2001) and later sale (2002). 6:32 -- Her experience as CEO of FirstRain . 7:57 -- On her board journey . Public boards (past and present): Rambus, JDSU, Faurecia (France), Lumentum, Smart Global, Forvia, Embarck Trucks. Private tech software company boards: Delphix...
Paul Washington: "The Roles of the Board in the Era of ESG and Stakeholder Capitalism." 10.04.2023 59:31
0:00 -- Intro. 2:00 -- Start of interview. 2:36 -- Paul's "origin story". 4:13 -- On the SVB collapse and current banking crisis. 8:04 -- On his time as a senior executive and corporate secretary at Time Warner (20 years). 11:28 -- About The Conference Board (founded in 1916) and his role as the Executive Director of its ESG Center (founded in 2019). 14:15 -- About their recent article “ The Roles...
Stephen Bainbridge: "The Profit Motive: Defending Shareholder Value Maximization." 03.04.2023 59:28
0:00 -- Intro. 1:35 -- Start of interview. 4:35 -- About his new book " The Profit Motive, Defending Shareholder Value Maximization " (2023). He wrote it to offer context for the current debate about corporate purpose and ESG. He argues that shareholder value maximization is not only required by law, but what the law ought to require. 9:23 -- His take on why we should care about corporate purpose...
Lawrence Cunningham: "Amid Heightened Uncertainty, Directors Should Expect To Be Second Guessed." 27.03.2023 52:29
0:00 -- Intro. 1:51 -- Start of interview. 2:44 -- On Larry's move from academia to private practice as Special Counsel in Mayer Brown ’s New York office. His writings in Mayer Brown's Across the Board 's blog. 4:58 -- His message at the 37th Annual Francis G. Pileggi Distinguished Lecture in Law at Delaware Law School to the state’s corporate bench and bar. 9:02 -- Shareholder Typologies and d...
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