Loren O'Brien
Black Sheep and Bad Apples
Black Sheep and Bad Apples was created as a project by Loren O'Brien to find something he wasn't good at and to get better. That experiment has slowly evolved from casual meandering conversations into deep dives into a variety of topics. In it's current iteration, BS+BA is an exploration into conspiracies -- real and fake, as well as social issues and the news to examine the context within which we live today. Some guests come in to cold, knowing nothing, while others come in knowing slightly more. Either way, the host, Loren, tries to make it a fun, interesting journey into the unknown.
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Loren O'Brien
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Jun 28, 2026
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Episodes
42 The War of Jenkins' Ear 25.11.2020 1:54:13
Originally aired November 25th, 2020: Sam, Shawn and Loren are excited to have Ron back on the show as they discuss The War of Jenkins' Ear, a war that was started exactly how it sounds. It starts with a winding twist through the indigenous peoples of Latin America and the Caribbean, and their contact with Christopher Columbus (spoiler alert: he's a dick). The guys examine the trade and comm...
41 The Racist Past of Bob Jones University 13.11.2020 1:52:50
Originally aired November 13th, 2020: The guys wander into history to take a look at the accomplishments of the horrible Bob Jones University, the college that was incredibly racist all the way up until the 2000's. Come join Marcus, Shawn and Loren as they look at how this devoutly religious family created one of the world's biggest, and most racist religious institutions o...
40 Who TF are America's Frontline Doctors? 25.09.2020 1:55:08
Originally aired September 25th, 2020: Recorded on our anniversary, 9-11, this is the last installment of our show before a short hiatus. Having said that; Loren brings us the story of the "America's Frontline Doctors" and their very unusual and misleading press conference. He proverbially goes behind the podium and explores who these fascinating and quirky characters are w...
39 CO-HOST TAKEOVER- A Brief History of Porn 17.09.2020 2:01:50
Originally aired September 17th, 2020: In week three of the Co-Host Takeover, Shawn has taken control of the episode in tonight's session, where he brings the history of porn as the subject for the evening. In a very fun and funny episode, they discuss the history of and the categorization of pornographic material throughout the ages.
38 CO-HOST TAKEOVER: A Handful of Cryptids 08.09.2020 1:17:52
Originally aired September 8th, 2020: Co-host and resident storyteller Joe takes control over the episode in this session to discuss an odd series of cryptids.
37 CO-HOST TAKEOVER - The History of Caffeine 31.08.2020 1:38:29
Originally aired August 31st, 2020: Sam takes the wheel and steers us down the direction of getting hyped. Caffeine has been used for a very long time, and, perhaps, has been the most common drug consumed ever.
36 Mother Jones: The Most Dangerous Woman In America 18.08.2020 1:36:59
Originally aired August 18th, 2020: Tonight's episode talks about the political and social agitator who pissed of the powerful for nearly a half decade. The Irish-born Mary Jones, who later became known as Mother Jones, is the subject for tonight's story. Loren brings us some stories about the most dangerous woman in America.
35 The Boston Molasses Flood 25.07.2020 1:53:56
The guys get together without Sam to listen to a sweet ass story about the Boston Molasses Flood of 1919. Tons of people were hurt, some were killed, and even more covered in the sticky sugar. Resources; "Solving a Mystery Behind the Deadly ‘Tsunami of Molasses’ of 1919" from The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/science/boston-molasses-flood-science.html "...
34 A Brief Overview of Cults and Cult Deprogramming 15.07.2020 2:04:26
Loren brings the guys together for an explanation of how cults recruit, work, operate and target their victims. It also highlights some of the techniques formerly used, and currently used by cult deprogrammers like Ted Patrick to help people extract themselves from cult-like groups.
33 The Horrible and Abusive World of Pickup Artists 03.07.2020 1:55:30
Originally aired July 3rd, 2020: Tonight Loren gets into the world of Pickup Artists and describes some of the most well known of them. Their world is a weird world of improving the social interactions of people who are perhaps lacking those skills. However, some of those techniques turn quite strangely into stories emotional abuse, misogyny, vanity and the lust for fame. Video Link: "...
32 Solidarity 18.06.2020 1:31:54
We have Matthew Wallace joining us again as we talk a little bit about the Trail of Tears, The Irish Potato Famine and how, after nearly 170 years, a thread of solidarity connected these two stories during a crisis.
31 A Little Bit On Labor 15.05.2020 1:39:41
Well, the guys get together for a discussion about workers rights and protesting. Specifically the United Mine Workers and the United Auto Workers of America in the early 1900's. They'll be discussing a few of the key players that brought about safer work environments, better pay and the weekend for workers, as well as branched out into solidarity with other disparaged peoples. Show Notes: U...
30 Radicalized at Home; The Story of Dylann Roof 30.04.2020 1:37:49
Originally aired April 30th, 2020: The guys get their Joe back! Oh, and they also discuss Dylann Roof, the guy who walked into Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina and shot 9 black people dead. Loren brings us the story of his crime, but, more importantly, the radicalization that led to it and how the internet played a roll in his actions.
29 The Manifestos Episode 26.04.2020 1:44:52
Originally aired April 26th, 2020: The guys bring a more loose-fit to this show. They've found some manifestos and read through them to see what they're like. They read from The Flat Earth Manifesto, The Martian Blowjob Manifesto, and some dude who claims to be a chrononaut, a time traveler. It's a silly, strange episode filled with a lot of fun, and strange commercials.
28 The Story of Brenda Spencer 15.04.2020 1:49:05
Originally aired April 15th, 2020: The guys get together to discuss the terrible events that transpired on January 29, 1979. Their guest, Kelly, offers some insight from the world of psychology. Loren discusses Brenda Spencer, the 16 year old who, when asked why she shot at the children and faculty at school across the street from her home, responded by saying "I hate Mondays." It's a rough episod...
27 Why Can't I Wipe My Own Ass? 14.04.2020 1:44:37
Originally aired April 14th, 2020: Loren tries to track down who the fuck created the rumor about there being a Toilet Paper Shortage, and dives into the details of who he thinks may be the culprit. He also looks into some of the misinformation out there, asking the question "Who may stand to profit from this (mis)information?" He also provides some advice as to how to prepare, if you must, and ho...
26 Mongolian Death Wyrms and the Legend of the Lambton Wyrm 05.04.2020 1:03:47
Originally aired April 5th, 2020: In our final Cohost Takeover Episode, Sam sits the guys down to talk about a few different styles of cryptids, the Mongolian Death Worm, and the strange legend of a worm-like dragon: The Lambton Wyrm.
25 The Loch Ness Monster Conspiracy 24.03.2020 1:19:45
Originally aired March 24th, 2020: On our second Cohost Take-over episode, Shawn takes us through the story of the Loch Ness Monster. Is it real? Should people be afraid? Well, like all good mysteries, the story may, perhaps, be a little less about monsters and a little more about bad guys.
24 Dacey's Survival Stories 13.03.2020 1:02:39
Originally aired March 13th, 2020: On our first Cohost Take-over episode, we pass the reigns to Joe Dacey this week, who has decided to take us on an interesting autobiography of some of his survival stories.
23 The Grafton, Part Two: Rescued 12.03.2020 1:38:27
Tonight's episode is the part two of the true story as told by Francois Edouard Raynal. The shipwreck of the Grafton has left six members in a state of survival in a sub-antarctic archipelago, after a storm forced their ship to crash. They found themselves on the Auckland Island Archipelago during a expedition with plenty of gear. Fortunately, all the men survived the wreck, but still are subjecte...
22 The Grafton, Part One: Shipwrecked 06.03.2020 1:54:00
Originally aired March 6th, 2020: Part one of two. We get together for the tale of the Grafton. In a story based upon the account of the survival of Francois Edouard Raynal. In 1863, Raynal and five others took to the seas in order to find their riches in the Antarctic Seas near New Zealand. This story is about the shipwreck and survival of those men. They left in search of precious resources off...
21 The Kidnapping and Survival of Philip Ashton 05.03.2020 1:46:03
Originally aired Mar 5, 2020: The guys discuss the long an arduous trip that a simple fisherman was forced to go on. They're talking about Philip Ashton who was kidnapped by pirates in 1722. Its a big long story about Ashton's survival and resilience in the face of a fuming, volatile captain, and his escape from the pirates' clutches Once free from their custody, he's left to struggle to surv...
20 Robotics and AI 23.02.2020 1:47:03
Originally aired, Feb 23, 2020: We talk about robots and AI. Loren's super impressed and curious, everyone else seems a little more hesitant. Ron doesn't have a mic in the beginning for whatever reason.
19 Biohacking And Cybernetics 09.02.2020 1:08:59
Originally aired February 9th, 2020: Tonight we talk about how biohacking may change the world. Scary things come from amazing ideas and we discuss how bad, good, and helpful technology can be. They also discuss groups of people "Biohackers" who are out there implementing changes by doing DIY biology to hopefully discover some of the hidden secrets of the world.
18 Human Augmentation 23.01.2020 1:38:48
Originally aired January 23rd, 2020. They're back! With a new format, better structure and crazy shit to talk about, BS+BA are back to talk technological improvements to the human body. This episode is about augmenting the human body to be what people could only dream of when they created the Million Dollar Man. We talk about how we can use technology for physical therapy and rehabilitatio...
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