Nicholas and Janelle Lavender
Beyond the Vow
Welcome to Beyond the Vow! Beyond the Vow is hosted by Nick and Janelle Lavender and focuses on religious and marital topics. We delve into the ups and downs, the twists and turns, the victories, the struggles, and everything that a couple may encounter as they journey through life and faith together. Habits will be tested, boundaries will be stretched, views will be analyzed, and compromises have to be made. All this and MORE as we go "Beyond the Vow!" You can find us on Facebook by simply searching for "Beyond the Vow".
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Feb 13, 2026
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Episodes
The religious bubble of the Conservative Holiness Movement, Dylan Mulvaney, and more. 14.04.2023 1:07:53
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss the dangers of religious isolation within the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM), the Dylan Mulvaney controversy, a new guitar, our crazy dogs, and more!
Hysteria vs the Holy Spirit in the church 07.04.2023 1:17:12
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss how worship in the early church compares to the modern day as well as some really strange incidents that have taken place in recent services, all under the umbrella of "worship." Are these true expressions of the movement of the Holy Spirit, or is it manipulation and, in some situations, a spirit that is not of God? We also disc...
Modeling a proper response to life’s challenges 31.03.2023 1:04:27
In this 30th episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss how our responses serve as a way of teaching our kids and others, how to react to situations in work, marriage, the church, and life in general. What if we find ourselves in a certain place, but wish for something else? Do we panic? Do we get angry? Do we find a solution? Do we allow ourselves to be defeated? We discuss this and mo...
So, Janelle had a procedure... 21.03.2023 38:57
In this 29th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle give an update on their fertility struggles and Janelle discusses her recent "awkward" procedure. We also discuss "Baby boxes".
Learning to relax (fertility update) 14.03.2023 58:39
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss an update concerning their fertility, relaxing and enjoying the journey both spiritually and with fertility, and the Silicon Valley Bank collapse.
Dealing with negative people 07.03.2023 55:50
In this 27th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss 12 tips for dealing with negative people, as well as an update on their fertility struggles.
Our fertility struggles, the Asbury revival, junk journaling, and more 21.02.2023 1:00:32
In this 26th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss their struggles with fertility, Janelle's love for junk journaling, the Asbury revival, and more. Life is full of ups and down's but through it all, God is able to get us through!
John Wesley, Perry Stone, and the need for transparency and boundries within marriage 07.02.2023 56:25
In this 25th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss the importance of having boundries within marriage with a focus on John Wesley, Perry Stone, and others. We must make sure we never sacrifice our family on the altar of ministry.
Bethel Church and the Word of Faith Movement 31.01.2023 1:22:32
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine Bethel Church and the Word of Faith Movement or as its also known, "The New Apostolic Reformation". We examine the affiliation that Bethel Church has with the Word of Faith Movement and how the Word of Faith Movement was founded. We also discuss some of the music that Bethel produces. If the music from Bethel is "Holy" and "Doctrinally so...
Faith builders 24.01.2023 48:25
In this 23rd episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss "faith builders" which are events that strengthen our faith in God. Nick discusses a few of these events from his own past as well as how God has helped him overcome some negative experiences.
An early understanding of sex in the CHM (Part 2) 17.01.2023 1:13:49
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss "Heart talks to Girls" a book written by Julia Shelhamer around the 1930's. This book has played a part in providing an idea of what an early understanding of sex for girls was like within the conservative holiness movement (CHM) and the lasting influence that this book and others like it, have had to this day.
Examining Shelhamers claims concerning the Asylums 10.01.2023 1:00:21
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle dig a bit deeper into some of the claims that E. E. Shelhamer made in his book, "Heart Talks to Boys" (which we covered in our last episode). Along the way we discuss his claim concerning 100,000 boys being sent to the insane asylum annually, as well as some of the documented early claims for why you could legitimately be sent to the insane asylu...
An early understanding of sex in the CHM (Part 1) 06.01.2023 1:20:41
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss "Heart talks to Boys" a book written by E.E. Shelhamer around the 1930's. This book has played a part in providing an idea of what an early understanding of sex was like within the conservative holiness movement (CHM) and the lasting influence that this book and others like it, have had to this day.
Dealing with emotional trauma in the church, in the home, and in relationships. 03.01.2023 1:03:26
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine the effects of emotional trauma. The three areas we discuss are the home, personal relationships and the church with a focus on the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM). Are we able to overcome this trauma and is Satan using this trauma to hinder our potential as Christians? We discuss this and more in this 19th episode of Beyond the Vow....
"Uncomplicating" relationships and the church 30.12.2022 1:03:32
In this episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss topics that both directly affect personal relationships and the church. Santification, character flaws, and judgemental behavior are just a few of the topics discussed.
Does 1 Timothy 2:9 ban the wearing of wedding bands and other jewelry? 27.12.2022 1:14:25
In this episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle examine a widely held belief in the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM), that the wearing of jewelry and wedding bands in particular, is sinful and banned according to scripture. 1 Timothy 2:9 is one such verse used to support this view in the CHM. Does the verse truly ban jewelry or if we dig deeper, does it mean something else?
Did other cultures know about the birth and death of Christ? 23.12.2022 53:35
In todays episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss a period of time during the Han dynasty in China. Did the Chinese know about the birth and death of Christ, and did they also worship God? All this and more in this episode of "Beyond the Vow"!
Talking points for Couples 20.12.2022 59:52
In this Episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine "Talking points for Couples". This is a series of 200 topics centered around certain categories so a a couple can get to know themselves better. On a roadtrip, or enjoying an evening at home together? These might be for you! Join us as we cover a few of these topics and enjoy a few laughs along with a side of serious conversation in...
A house divided... 09.12.2022 1:03:27
In this episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss the concept of "two becoming one" including the combining of finances, unification of faith, the meshing of family traditions... and everything in between.
Topics for building Christian Intimacy! 07.12.2022 52:28
In this episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle share some conversation topics for building Christian intimacy within the marriage. Grab your significant other, some coffee, and follow along to see what you might learn about YOUR spouse!
Dealing with nasty people in the school, workplace, and church. 01.12.2022 56:22
Have you ever dealt with nasty people? Have you ever held a grudge because of how you were treated in the past? In this episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss some tough situations that they went through, what they learned as a result of experiencing these situations, and what the Bible says when dealing with "nasty" people.
Emotion, Mental Health, and the CHM (Conservative Holiness Movement) 29.11.2022 48:49
In this episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss the CHM and how it deals with mental health and emotions. We touch a bit on sanctfication (to be discussed further in a future episode) and the misunderstandings that tends to exist in the CHM concerning these various topics. We hope you enjoy!
"Did you know?" Thanksgiving Edition! 24.11.2022 32:31
In this lighthearted edition of "Beyond the Vow", we discuss 12 little known "Did you know" facts about Thanksgiving! Come along and join us on this hilarious episode and maybe you'll learn a thing or two (or maybe not but you could still laugh with us... or at us)!
Sex, Virginity, and the CHM (Conservative Holiness Movement) 22.11.2022 59:04
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, we discuss the topics of Sex, Virginity, and how our upbringing within the Conservative Holiness movement (CHM) impacted these topics.
The Conservative Holiness Movement... The illness and the cure 18.11.2022 1:05:56
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, we discuss some of the problems facing the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM) and what can be done to remedy them. We also discuss our past experiences growing up in the various CHM churches we attended, and situations/people that we encountered which made a lasting impact.
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