Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander

beyond ArtLess

“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time. 

Author

Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander

Category

Education

Latest episode

May 27, 2026

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Episodes

Patty Schlafer 20.02.2023

Send us Fan Mail Episode 5 features the beloved music educator, leader, mentor, and human, Patty Schlafer. She shares with us her start in music education, her proudest moments, and playing Uno with a few mean girls. We talk over relocation options with Phil, tuba mutes, initial listener feedback, and a pitchless (possibly artless) rendition of the National Anthem.  Support the show

Parker Bixby 13.02.2023

Send us Fan Mail Episode 4 has many similarities to Wagner's Ring Cycle - it is both long and epic! On the show is Peter's former colleague, dear friend, and AMAZING music educator, Parker Bixby, Mercer Island Band Program in Seattle. Our chat includes ideas regarding music department websites, vertical staffing, and a new philosophy and process for auditions. Don't worry, it's...

Craig Gosnell 06.02.2023

Send us Fan Mail Episode three carries some serious "star" power....like Dancing With The Stars power! Los Angeles freelance trombonist/vocalist/low brass specialist, Craig Gosnell, joins us for a chat about studio playing, The Rock, Bill Holmen, Gonna Fly Now at fff, polkas, and buttons. To learn more about Craig check out his list of amazing accomplishments here: https://www.greenhoe.c...

Erika Svanoe 30.01.2023

Send us Fan Mail Well...we somehow figured out how to do another podcast an good thing because this week we were joined by composer, entrepreneur, musician, inventor, educator, and all-around amazing person, Erika Svanoe! Erika chats with us about card games, fear, Andy Boysen Jr, failed community theatre roles, her first symphony and much more. If you can stomach the sound of Chris, Peter, and Ph...

Scott Teeple 23.01.2023

Send us Fan Mail In our first (and maybe last) podcast, UW-Madison Director of Bands, Prof. Scott Teeple, joins us for a chat about his childhood in Michigan, Interlochen, stingers, how to begin a rehearsal, pizza, and even Mahler. As you will hear, no topic is off the table and the best parts of the show have little or nothing to do with the three idiots who are the hosts.  Support the show

Trailer 19.01.2023

Send us Fan Mail “Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artl...

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