Michelle Gately & Caitlin Toohey

Better Words

Arts EN ↓ 180 episodes

A podcast for readers who want to know the stories behind the pages 📖 Join Caitlin and Michelle, two book nerds who bring you in-depth conversations about writing and publishing from those on the inside. Grab a cuppa and get ready to chat books.

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Michelle Gately & Caitlin Toohey

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Arts

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www.betterwordspodcast.com

Latest episode

Jul 2, 2026

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Episodes

Queer meet-cutes & Kindred stories with Michael Earp (Recast from May 2019) 26.08.2020

This interview with Michael Earp was originally broadcast in May 2019. When we spoke to Michael, he was getting ready to launch Kindred: a Queer #LoveOzYA short story collection. He was also one of the talented writers included in the Underdog short story collection (published in 2019).  Sign up to Michael's email and you'll get a short story from him in your inbox! In this chat, we discuss: Writi...

Body positivity & the power of pop culture with Jenna Guillaume (Recast from March 2019) 18.08.2020

This interview with Jenna Guillaume was originally broadcast in March 2019. When we spoke to Jenna, she was celebrating the release of her debut novel. We want to re-visit this chat because her second standalone YA novel You Were Made For Me is on shelves now. In this chat, we discuss: Writing about body image, body positivity, and plus-sized romance Jenna's journey with body image Netflix series...

Art as activism with Renée Watson (Recast from June 2019) 11.08.2020

This interview with Renée Watson was originally broadcast in June 2019 It seems fitting to re-release this chat with author, activist, and teacher Renée Watson in the wake of George Floyd's murder and Black Lives Matter protests across the world. We spoke to Renée while she was touring Australia  for the release of Watch Us Rise (which she co-wrote with Ellen Hagan).  In this chat, we discuss: How...

From obsession to contemporary YA with Phil Stamper 17.03.2020

Phil Stamper is currently celebrating the publication of his debut novel The Gravity of Us ! He grew up playing piano, writing and looking up at the stars in rural Ohio and now lives in New York City. We talked to him about the space program, reality tv and of course his new book. The Gravity of Us is a queer love story set against the backdrop of a modern space program. Before the interview, Cait...

Finding your own voice with Anna Whateley 03.03.2020

Anna Whateley has a PhD in young adult fiction, first class honours in English Literature and Post-Grad Certificate in Education. We're delighted to talk to her today about her debut YA novel, Peta Lyre's Rating Normal. We chat about her journey to publication and how she's spent years trying to understand her own neurodiversity and exploring that through the novel. Ahead of that wonderful chat, C...

Writing about the big questions with Emery Lord 11.02.2020

Emery Lord is the amazing young adult author of Open Road Summer, The Start of Me & You, The Names They Gave Us and When We Collided. She is currently celebrating the publication of her fifth novel, The Map From Here To There . We talked to Emery about her writing process, how she started writing, how her first novel was published and The Great British Bake Off! Before the interview, Michelle and...

A love letter to people watchers with Libby Page 28.01.2020

In this episode we chat about writing, friendship, people watching, outdoor swimming and breakfast foods with Libby Page. Her debut novel The Lido has been sold into 20 territories and is one of Michelle's favourites. Her second novel, The 24 Hour Cafe was just released in Australia and the UK. Before the chat, Caitlin talks about both movies she saw on the weekend, Michelle's latest reality tv ob...

New chapters and special places with Vanessa McCausland 14.01.2020

Welcome to 2020! Vanessa McCausland has worked as a journalist for 17 years, is currently the weekend editor at kidspot.com.au and her novel The Lost Summers of Driftwood was just released! We talked to Vanessa about how she separates creative writing from work plus the themes and inspirations for her novel. To start, Michelle and Caitlin chat about what they were reading, watching and listening t...

Distance doesn't matter with Tara Eglington 22.12.2019

Today's guest is the wonderful Tara Eglington! Tara joins us to talk about her fourth novel, The Long Distance Playlist. We discuss the inspirations for the story and main characters, the role music plays in the novel and her creative process. You can listen to the offical The Long Distance Playlist playlist on Spotify here . Before the interview, Michelle and Caitlin share their very own friendsh...

Inside an indie publisher with Bella Pearson 10.12.2019

This episode is our very first inside look into publishing! We chat to Bella Pearson from Guppy Books about her experience in the publishing, the amazing books she's worked on, some of the challenges in the industry and publishing children's books. Before that, Michelle and Caitlin are getting into the Christmas spirit with lots of recommendations! Interview starts at 16:00. Check out the shownote...

The highs and lows of online life with Fiona Thomas 28.11.2019

This week we're joined by freelancer Fiona Thomas to discuss how having a mental breakdown led to a new career as a writer and the publication of her first book, Depression in a Digital Age. She's currently writing a guide to freelancing due for release in 2020. In the intro, we're discussing Holly Bourne's How Do You Like Me Now, David Burton's Man in the Water and Iliza Shlesinger's UnVeiled. In...

The vulnerability of life writing with Bri Lee 12.11.2019

Today's guest is a lawyer and an award winning, critically acclaimed writer. We are so excited to have Bri Lee on Better Words! We talked about Eggshell Skull, the newly released Beauty, other writing projects and her campaign to have the Queensland Law Reform Commission review consent and 'mistake of fact' laws (consentlawqld.com). To start, Michelle and Caitlin talk about tea and their recent re...

Writing the stories we needed with Nina Kenwood 29.10.2019

It Sounded Better In My Head seems to have been the talk of the Australian bookstagram community for the past few months. Nina Kenwood has worked in the book industry for over a decade, including with Melbourne’s iconic Readings bookshop. After winning the 2018 Text Prize, her first novel was published in Australia in August (and will be out in the UK and US in early 2020). We talked to Nina about...

Wielding our power with Julie Mayhew 15.10.2019

Our first guest for season 4 has done just about everything. Julie Mayhew is an author, radio dramatist, playwright, screen writer, actress and journalist. We chat with Julie about her new book, Impossible Causes, what it's like to write across so many mediums and separating the world you create from the world you live in. Before that, Michelle and Caitlin discuss what they've been watching, readi...

While you were writing with Ali Berg and Michelle Kalus 23.07.2019

The Book Ninjas are back! We welcome Ali Berg and Michelle Kalus back to Better Words to discuss their second bookish rom-com, While You Were Reading. We explore the changes in writing a second book and the publication challenge of including real #bookstagram shots in the novel. In the introduction, we're talking about Yesterday, Parenthood, Luther, and the weird CATS trailer. *Interview starts at...

Written in the stars with Danielle Wood 09.07.2019

Danielle Wood, Minnie Darke or Angelica Banks? Our guest goes by a few names but we just called her Danielle. You've probably seen Star Crossed on your Instagram and whether you follow astrology or not, it's a very fun read. We talked to Danielle about her inspiration for Star Crossed , her interest in astrology, writing and her experiences in journalism. In our intro, Michelle talks about her wee...

Learn, write and rise with Renee Watson 26.06.2019

Renee Watson is a New York Times best selling author and has published multiple middle grade and young adult novels. Her poetry and fiction explores the lived experiences of black girls and women, and the intersections of race, class, gender, and body image. We talk about her writing, activism, publishing experience and her latest novel, Watch Us Rise , co-authored with Ellen Hagan. Interview star...

Grieving in words with Helena Fox 11.06.2019

Our guest is very well travelled and is now based in Wollongong, New South Wales. Helena Fox is celebrating the publication of her debut, How It Feels To Float. We talked to her about grief being a unique and individual experience, mental health, characters, and writing. Before that we discuss the length and cancelling of various tv shows as well as what else we've been reading and watching. Join...

Embracing and loving YA with Michael Earp 28.05.2019

Michael is a editor, bookseller and writer who loves children's and young adult literature. While chatting to him, we spent the whole conversation gushing about books. Key topics include Kindred: 12 #LoveOzYA Stories, Underdog Short Stories and his experience in the bookish community. In our first internationally recorded introduction, Michelle tells us about her first few days in the UK and Caitl...

Women make history with Clare Wright 14.05.2019

We learned a lot in this episode and we hope you do too. Clare Wright is a historian and award winning author. She talked to us about the Australian's women suffragette movement and how women won the right to vote. We also chatted to Clare about her research, writing process and making history cool again. Before that, listen to Caitlin and Michelle's last in person (for them) introduction for a wh...

Creating your authentic with Sara Tasker 30.04.2019

How can we live as our most authentic selves? Sara Tasker is a writer, photographer, business coach, podcaster, Instagram guru and author. She joins us to talk all about the process of writing and putting together her book and living a creative life. Our chat goes off on many tangents, which proves how much we love to talk! Before the interview, hear about Caitlin's encounter with a friendly kanga...

Fairy tales and folklore with Kate Forsyth 21.04.2019

It's our first LIVE episode! So, we've decided to keep it simple and just present to you our interview with the incredible Kate Forsyth at CapriCon Rockhampton 2019. We discuss how a childhood trauma shaped her passion for reading, the origins of fairytales and the magic of retellings, the productivity of writing for a living, and ideas and inspiration. Join our Facebook group to continue the conv...

An Underdog’s dream with Tobias Madden 02.04.2019

We're discussing office sitcoms, British TV dramas and astrology all before being joined by Tobias Madden. He is a man of many, many talents! We chat all about Underdog: #LoveOzYA Short Stories , the bookish community, musicals and changing careers. Follow us on Instagram and please leave a rating or review. Thanks for listening!

Revisiting our yesterday with Karen Sepulveda 19.03.2019

This week we're discussing Kinky Boots, Harry Potter movies, Underdog short stories, plus an exciting announcement. Our guest is Karyn Sepulveda , author of Letters to My Yesterday, chatting about uncovering the extraordinary stories of ordinary women, writing 'apprenticeships' and the classification of women's writing. Follow us on Instagram . Thanks to Ventura Books for providing a copy of Lette...

Body positive and pop culture obsessed with Jenna Guillaume 05.03.2019

To celebrate the release of What I Like About Me, we welcome author and journalist Jenna Guillaume. We discuss her journey to publication, the wonderful character of Maisie, rom coms, Dirty Dancing, body positivity and more. Michelle and Caitlin also discuss the Oscars, catching up on movies and the Jonas Brothers.

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