Userlist

Better Done Than Perfect

Business EN ↓ 87 episodes

The show for SaaS marketers and product people. We talk with industry experts about email automation, marketing, content, and product strategy.

Be sure to visit the podcast's website and support the creator: userlist.com

Author

Userlist

Category

Business

Podcast website

userlist.com

Latest episode

Apr 25, 2025

Where to listen?

Podcasts in the app Replaio Radio Coming soon

Podcasts are coming to the app soon. Install now and be the first to see a whole new take on podcasts

Get it on Google Play Install for free Android almost 10M downloads · 4.8 rating iOS soon

Episodes

Building in Public with Noah Bragg 25.02.2022

What are the marketing benefits of sharing your progress in public? Are there any drawbacks? In this episode, we talk to Noah Bragg, founder of Potion. You'll learn about the benefits of building in public, practical tips for producing video content, strategies for posting on social media, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Potion — Noah’s product Notion...

Web Copy for SaaS with Ekaterina Howard 12.02.2022

Is copy more important than design for our SaaS businesses? In this episode, we talk to Ekaterina Howard, a conversion copywriter and strategist. You'll learn about common SaaS copywriting crimes, how to be consistent with your messaging, how to research for the voice of the customer, how to utilize long-form content, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. e...

SaaS Content Strategy with Nicole Kow 28.01.2022

What can we do to create impactful content for our SaaS? In this episode, we talk to Nicole Kow, a B2B marketing consultant and content strategist. You'll learn how to avoid a common content strategy pitfall for many companies, tips for content research, resources for improving writing, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. nicolekow.com — Nicole’s consulta...

How to Edit Content with Kieran Tie 17.01.2022

How can we edit our content better? Can editing make a difference? In this episode, we talk to Kieran Tie, founder of Chatty, the editorial service. You'll learn the different types of editing, negative writing habits to avoid, how to make niche technical content more appealing, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Chatty.so — Kieran’s editorial service Gr...

SaaS Positioning with Marc Thomas 03.01.2022

Can you position your SaaS in a 90-minute call? In this episode, we talk to Marc Thomas, head of growth at Powered by Search. You'll learn why positioning is crucial for your SaaS business, the step-by-step framework for defining your positioning statement, some examples of SaaS positioning, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Powered by Search — Marc’s p...

Producing Technical Content with Karl Hughes 17.12.2021

What are the best practices for producing technical content? In this episode we talk to Karl Hughes, founder of Draft.dev. You'll learn how to scale content for different goals, the editorial process he follows at his agency, tips for content promotion, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Cassidy’s Twitch channel Draft.dev — Karl’s agency BuzzSumo — tool...

Live Streaming with Cassidy Williams 03.12.2021

Need a crash course on how to approach live streaming? In this episode, we talk to Cassidy "Cassidoo" Williams, developer and content creator. You'll learn what equipment and tools Cassidy uses for streaming, tips on how to get started, different approaches to handling the live chat, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Cassidy’s Twitch channel Learn with...

Education in Marketing Automation with Chris L. Davis 19.11.2021

What’s the best way to teach people email marketing automation? In this episode, we talk to Chris L. Davis, marketing automation consultant and founder of Automation Bridge. You'll learn how Chris gained his expertise, the steps in his mentorship and training model, the importance of mapping before automating, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Automatio...

Your Go-to-Market Strategy with Lucy Heskins 05.11.2021

What does a go-to-market strategy look like for an early-stage B2B SaaS? What resources exist for marketers driving these strategies? In this episode, we talk to Lucy Heskins, an early-stage startup marketing advisor at Oh, blimey. You'll learn about the different frameworks used in go-to-market strategy, how to scale your business using traction channels, content marketing tips, and more. Visit o...

Business Automation with Jimmy Rose 22.10.2021

What tasks are worth automating in our businesses? What tools shall we use? In this episode, we talk to Jimmy Rose, founder of Content Snare. You’ll learn several automation ideas that can improve business processes, the differences between popular automation platforms, how to automate content and document collection from clients, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key...

Email Automation & Customer Experience with Jordan Skole 08.10.2021

How can we approach customer experience holistically to enable effective email marketing? In this episode, we talk to Jordan Skole, VP of Product Growth at Autobooks. You'll learn why it’s important to consider the entire customer experience, how copywriting can inform design, frameworks for understanding customers and creating email automations, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episod...

Email Automation Data & Integrations with Colin Nederkoorn 24.09.2021

How can we make the integration process smooth for different email automation platforms? In this episode, we talk to Colin Nederkoorn, founder of Customer.io. You'll learn about the common mistakes companies make when setting up their email tools, how to best handle certain types of data, tips for providing “done for you” services, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with ke...

Segments & Lead Scoring with Jason Resnick 10.09.2021

What are the best ways to segment our marketing lists and nurture subscribers  toward conversion? In this episode, we talk to Jason Resnick, email automation and marketing consultant. You'll learn how to balance nurture sequences and broadcast emails, how to approach segmentation and lead scoring, tips for improving automations, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key l...

Email Automation for Membership-Focused Companies with Blair Wadman 27.08.2021

How should membership-focused companies think about marketing automation? In this episode, we talk to Blair Wadman, an email automation consultant specializing in membership-focused companies. You'll learn about the similarities and differences of these companies compared to the traditional SaaS model, the tools used to run these businesses, tips for email marketing, and more. Visit our website fo...

Cold Outreach Essentials with Andy Cabasso 13.08.2021

What pitfalls should we avoid in cold email outreach? In this episode, we talk to Andy Cabasso, co-founder of Postaga. You'll learn technical setup tips, ways to stand out, the best practices for follow-up sequences, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Postaga — Andy's automated email outreach product Product Hunt — a discovery site for new tech products...

Mastering Email Software with Brennan Dunn 30.07.2021

What should we think about when selecting an email automation platform? In this episode, we speak with Brennan Dunn, co-founder of RightMessage. We discuss how he gained his email automation knowledge, and the best practices for email automation. You'll learn the advantages of using custom fields over tags for segmentation, methods for email personalization, tips for providing value to subscribers...

Marketing Experiments with Martin “Gonto” Gontovnikas 19.07.2021

How can we use data and experimentation to improve marketing for our SaaS? In this episode, we speak with Martin "Gonto" Gontovnikas, co-founder and growth advisor at Hypergrowth Partners. We discuss how to run marketing experiments, learn faster and unlock growth growth. You'll hear practical tips such as figuring out what to test, at what cadence, and much more. Visit our website for the detaile...

Cancellation Experiences with Baird Hall 02.07.2021

How do we lower churn? In this episode, we talk to Baird Hall, co-founder of Churnkey. We discuss the experiences that led Baird and his co-founders to start Churnkey and how to best think about churn in your business. You'll learn how to collect feedback from customers as they churn, the options you have to minimize  your churn rate, the mistakes that Baird sees others making, and more. Visit our...

27 Years of Product with Scott Tyburski 18.06.2021

How does a product stand the test of time? In this episode, we speak with Scott Tyburski, co-founder of MenuPro and iMenuPro. We discuss the product transition of desktop-based MenuPro to the SaaS, web-based iMenuPro. You'll learn how Scott positions their product differently than competitors, how he approaches customer support, the lessons learned from nearly 30 years in the business, and more. V...

Building HR Software with Jonny Burch 04.06.2021

How do we design products to help users feel like they are making progress? In this episode, we speak with Jonny Burch, co-founder and CEO of Progression. We discuss several challenges they face while operating in the HR space — from selling their software to aligning vocabulary with customers. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Show notes Progression — Jonny's ca...

Driving Behavior Change with Ashutosh Priyadarshy 21.05.2021

What if being successful with your product requires consistent effort? In this episode, we speak with Ashutosh Priyadarshy, founder of Sunsama. You'll learn the story behind their productivity tool, how they define customer success, qualify new customers, and more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Show notes Sunsama — Ashutosh's product, a daily planner for elit...

Navigating Massive Growth with Frank Barry 07.05.2021

How does a personal touch help your SaaS stand out? What can we learn from SaaS companies that navigate massive growth spurts? In this episode, we speak with Frank Barry, COO of Tithe.ly. Frank shares why Tithe.ly has been successful during the pandemic, and why church management software was ripe for improvement. You'll learn how they survived exponential growth in 2020, how they stand out in a c...

Sales vs Customer Success with Louis Nicholls 12.04.2021

How do SaaS sales and customer success compare? Today we speak with Louis Nicholls, co-founder of SparkLoop. You'll learn how to approach customer success with long-time-to-value products, what to watch out for with sales calls and demos, the benefits and drawbacks of freemium, and much more. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Show notes SparkLoop — referral tool...

Building Relationships Using Email Automation with Liz Painter 26.03.2021

Why is it crucial to talk to customers before you write any copy? How can we make automated emails appear more human? Today we talk to Liz Painter, an email strategist and conversion copywriter at Comma Comma. Liz reveals several ways in which we can improve our copywriting and make meaningful connections with our users through email. The underlying theme? Talk to your users! Visit our website for...

Using Surveys for Customer Success with Moritz Dausinger 18.03.2021

When is the right time to survey users within your SaaS product? How can that survey data be used in customer success? Today  we speak with Moritz Dausinger, founder of Refiner. Moritz shares the story behind his survey tool, when and how to survey your users, and many other tips for making the most of the survey data. Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings. Show notes...

Listen to the Better Done Than Perfect podcast in Replaio

Radio and podcasts in one app - free, with no sign-up. Install today and do not miss the launch

Get it on Google Play

Replaio is not a podcast publisher; show names, artwork and audio belong to their authors and are distributed through public RSS feeds.