Steve Fretzin

BE THAT LAWYER

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BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.

Author

Steve Fretzin

Category

Business

Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

Rochelle Seltzer: Harnessing Creativity to Boost Legal Success 04.11.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Rochelle Seltzer discuss: Embracing creativity for professional and personal growth Managing client relationships and workload creatively Building an authentic personal brand Unlocking creativity in structured professions   Key Takeaways: Lawyers can build a more fulfilling practice by choosing clients selectively, raising rates, and letting go of work that doesn...

Daniel Scola: Developing Business in Law: What They Don’t Teach You in Law School 31.10.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Daniel Scola discuss: Developing business skills as a lawyer Balancing legal expertise with emotional intelligence Transitioning from in-house counsel to a law firm partner Competing with larger firms for corporate clients   Key Takeaways: Building strong relationships with general counsel often involves using emotional intelligence to understand their concerns a...

Camille Stell & Brenda Barnes: Aligning Law Firm Growth with Attorney Retention 28.10.2024

In this episode, Steve, Camille, and Brenda discuss: Law firm compensation structures and challenges The role of transparency in legal industry compensation Succession planning and generational shifts in law firms Recruiting and retaining legal talent in a competitive market   Key Takeaways: Non-equity partnership tracks are becoming common, allowing lawyers to learn financial and managerial aspec...

Steve Mehr: Differentiation, CRM, and SOPs for a Sweet Law Firm Growth 24.10.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Steve Mehr discuss: Importance of CRM and data-driven approaches in law practice management Strategies for scaling a law firm efficiently The role of marketing and brand differentiation in legal industry success Balancing multiple roles and responsibilities within a growing practice   Key Takeaways: A customized CRM system is essential for tracking key metrics, e...

Eido Walny: Building a Winning Business with Commitment, Communication, and Client Experience Success 21.10.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Eido Walny discuss: Entrepreneurial mindset in law Balancing personal and professional life Client experience and relationship management Mentorship and professional growth   Key Takeaways: A singular focus on achieving business goals ensures that all efforts are dedicated to success, with no fallback plan to divert attention. Focusing on doing what’s best for th...

Jonathan Baum: From Big Law to Independent Lawyering Success 17.10.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jonathan Baum discuss: Transitioning from a big law firm to independent practice Cultivating strong client relationships for career sustainability in law The evolving dynamics of legal work Personal branding and positioning oneself in a competitive legal environment   Key Takeaways: Independent lawyers can effectively compete with large firms by assembling specia...

RJon Robins: Strategies for Law Firm Profit and Peace of Mind 14.10.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and RJon Robins discuss: Understanding the business side of law firms Common challenges in growing a law firm Overcoming financial and operational hurdles in law practice Personal development and mindset in law firm success   Key Takeaways: Law schools fail to teach essential business skills, leaving lawyers unprepared for running a firm, particularly in areas like m...

Ben Paul: Mastering AI in Legal Business Development 10.10.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ben Paul discuss: AI in modern business development for legal professionals Building and sustaining client relationships in a competitive legal market Enhancing personal branding and marketing Navigating economic challenges and their impact on legal services   Key Takeaways: AI tools like ChatGPT can assist lawyers in creating business development strategies and...

David Telisman: Leveraging AI and Content Marketing for a Future-Ready Law Practice 07.10.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and David Telisman discuss: The role of content in business growth Challenges professionals face in content creation AI's impact on marketing strategies Delegating marketing efforts effectively   Key Takeaways: Blogging remains the second most effective form of content marketing after video, but many attorneys fail to utilize it consistently, missing out on a powerfu...

Michael Oberther: Building Bridges and Cultivating Meaningful Relationships through Networking 03.10.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Michael Oberther discuss: Effective networking for attorneys Communicating complex legal concepts in a relatable manner Understanding your target audience in networking efforts Building strong referral relationships within professional networks   Key Takeaways: Attorneys should prepare to explain their services in simple terms, akin to explaining to a high school...

Chris Ruzicka: The Power of Business Development and Networking in Law Firms 30.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Chris Ruzicka discuss: Networking and relationship building The role of business development in law firms Why many lawyers struggle with sales and networking Making the most out of networking opportunities   Key Takeaways: Building strong relationships is key to business development by focusing on genuine connections over immediate sales and starting with familia...

Robert Hanna: Unlocking Legal Success Through Podcasting, Recruiting, and Community Building 26.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Robert Hanna discuss: Podcasting as a business development tool Building and engaging a legal community Strategies for growing a personal or firm brand Leveraging LinkedIn and legal technology for career advancement   Key Takeaways: Launching a podcast differentiates a business, builds client relationships, and establishes a brand by offering valuable content ove...

Ron Latz: Mastering Law Firm Growth through Strategic Marketing 23.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ron Latz discuss: Challenges in business development and marketing for lawyers Aligning marketing strategies with law firm goals Choosing the right marketing vendors for law firms Personal branding and networking in law firm success   Key Takeaways: Lawyers often struggle with marketing due to a lack of business development education and being overwhelmed by runn...

Merry Neitlich: Mastering Legal Branding From Taglines to Revenue Generation 19.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Merry Neitlich discuss: Challenges in legal marketing Importance of branding in law firms Evolving marketing techniques Integration of branding with business development   Key Takeaways: Lawyers often misunderstand branding as a tagline, but effective branding requires a deep dive into what makes their services unique and meaningful to clients. Without integratin...

Justin Krane: Smart Spending and Turning Business Expenses into Growth 16.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Justin Krane discuss: Challenges lawyers face with managing their finances The importance of automating financial systems The connection between lifestyle choices and financial health Strategies for building a financially secure law practice   Key Takeaways: Automating the transfer of funds between business and personal accounts helps remove emotion from financia...

Melanie Herschorn: Book Writing and Publishing for Branding and Growth 12.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Melanie Herschorn discuss: Book writing for lawyers Challenges in book publishing Books as marketing tools Role of technology and AI in publishing   Key Takeaways: Lawyers can streamline book creation by repurposing existing content instead of writing new material daily. Carefully vet publishers to avoid rights loss or financial exploitation by selecting those wi...

Gregg Goldfarb: Staying Profitable in a Changing Legal Landscape 09.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Gregg Goldfarb discuss: Evolving legal marketing strategies Non-lawyer ownership in law firms Revenue growth through referrals and partnerships Networking and education for lawyers   Key Takeaways: Lawyers can expand their revenue streams by engaging in referral marketing, where they identify cases outside their expertise and refer them to other firms, earning a...

Douglas Wood: Crafting Purposeful Transitions and Empowering Experienced Attorneys 05.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Douglas Wood discuss: Career transition planning for lawyers Effective planning and execution in law firms Challenges for senior lawyers in staying relevant Leveraging senior lawyers' expertise in law firms   Key Takeaways: Lawyers should self-assess to identify their strengths, weaknesses, and opportunities early to make informed career decisions and avoid unwan...

Paige Fox: Thriving through Mindfulness & Self-Care 02.09.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Paige Fox discuss: The importance of mindfulness and wellness in professional life The challenges lawyers face with time management and stress The impact of meditation on mental health and productivity Strategies for lawyers to maintain a balanced lifestyle   Key Takeaways: Chronic stress and long work hours often lead to burnout, highlighting the need to integra...

Frank Rekas: Balancing Legal Work, Law Firm Leadership, and Financial Management 29.08.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Frank Rekas discuss: Effectively managing and growing a law practice Common challenges in professional practice operations The role of delegation in business efficiency Building connections for business development   Key Takeaways: Lawyers often struggle with financial management because they aren't taught business skills in law school, leading them to handle fin...

Dr. Sharon Meit Abrahams: Law Leadership and Learning: From the Bar to the Classroom 26.08.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Dr. Sharon Meit Abrahams discuss: Teaching and mentoring in professional growth Developing people skills in law Leadership and management training for legal professionals Addressing underperformance in legal settings   Key Takeaways: Teaching involves not only imparting knowledge but also inspiring professionals, particularly in law, to develop essential life ski...

Phil Gafka: Leveraging a Multigenerational Workforce to Enhance Law Firm Culture 22.08.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Phil Gafka discuss: The impact of cultural shifts on workplace harmony The role of clear expectations in boosting employee morale and productivity How inclusive leadership practices improve job satisfaction Leveraging unique team experiences and backgrounds   Key Takeaways: Embracing cultural changes, valuing diverse perspectives, and fostering collaboration crea...

Nanette Fridman: Finding Purpose and Fulfillment in Serving on a Board 19.08.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Nanette Fridman discuss: Expanding professional networks through board service The role of lawyers in board settings Enhancing board effectiveness through diverse skills Strategic relationship-building in nonprofit organizations   Key Takeaways: Serving on boards lets lawyers contribute to meaningful causes while boosting their skills and network, making their ca...

Arthur Levitan: The Tao of Law for Professional Growth and Harmony 15.08.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Arthur Levitan discuss: Importance of knowing when to stop working Impact of remote work on stress and productivity Techniques for managing stress and maintaining mental health Role of deep breathing in stress reduction and performance Humility and adaptability in success and professional growth   Key Takeaways: Establish clear boundaries for your work hours to p...

Eduardo Paiz: Business Development in North and Latin America 12.08.2024

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Eduardo Paiz discuss: When most lawyers feel discontent with their jobs.  How business development is different between the US and Latin America.  Cultural differences in business communication.  How the Young Partners Accelerator is helping lawyers in transition and changing their mentality.    Key Takeaways: Most lawyers feel discontent when they don’t feel in...

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