Steve Fretzin
BE THAT LAWYER
BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.
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Steve Fretzin
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Larry Stybel: Defining Yourself and Finding Success Now 13.06.2022 37:06
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Larry Stybel discuss: Determining if your career is a success. Enjoying what you do while you’re doing it. Redefining your title of yourself from within. Understanding what comes during Chapter Three. Key Takeaways: Everyone has a different definition of success and has a different level of what they are comfortable with in their own life. You need to do wh...
Ryan Kimler: Numbers for Lawyers 09.06.2022 31:01
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ryan Kimler discuss: The numbers side of your law firm practice. The KPIs firms should be looking into. Why you need to understand your firm’s numbers. Utilizing an expert to look at your numbers to set your firm up for success. Key Takeaways: A lot of built in reports in financial software are for compliance, not for understanding what is happening with yo...
Jaclyn Foster: You Can’t Build Your Law Firm Alone 06.06.2022 34:01
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jaclyn Foster discuss: Changes in virtual law firm assistance. Understanding where hires need to be made. Keep it simple with roll clarity. Preventing bottlenecks in your law firm. Key Takeaways: Hiring virtual gives you a broader hiring pool and gives more flexibility to your employees. You need to understand where time is being spent before you can under...
Jason Levin: Getting Out of the Bermuda Keep In Touch Triangle 02.06.2022 35:59
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jason Levin discuss: Always be chipping away as you are waiting with hope. Self-selecting our next opportunities. Developing relationships to develop business. Using your memory to your advantage in relationship building. Key Takeaways: Every lawyer has the capacity to do business development, it just isn’t often on their radar as it isn’t something that wa...
Barbara Kaplan: Your Brand is Your BFF 30.05.2022 35:35
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Barbara Kaplan discuss: Relationships as the key to success. Why lawyers may struggle with branding. Defining your own brand and narrative. Understanding how to define your brand and what you do. Key Takeaways: Your why lives at the intersection of what you love, what you're great at, what you want to be known for, what sets you apart, and what your ideal c...
Molly McGrath: Hire, Empower, Communicate, and Demonstrate 26.05.2022 32:34
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Molly McGrath discuss: The greatest employment tools you have as a business owner. Attracting players and keeping key employees. Reinventing the hiring process to catch the rockstar candidates. What lawyers want more than money and perks. Key Takeaways: It’s not just about the money. It is about the time, the attention, the resources, the communication, and...
Marc Hankin: Building Relationships Are More than the Benjamins 23.05.2022 31:57
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Marc Hankin discuss: Relationships first, middle, and last. Listen first and tune your hearing to hear what others are saying is the problem. The little things to pull together the networking connection. Remembering social rules as we move back to in person meetings. Key Takeaways: Regular communication with those friends you want to maintain connections wi...
Lindsey Markus: Saying Yes and Building Powerhouse Connections 19.05.2022 29:56
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Lindsey Markus discuss: Putting yourself out there to build your brand, network, and show yourself as an authority in your space. Adding value through connections. Why Lindsey created a publication house to publish her book. Overcoming challenges of business development as a woman. Key Takeaways: Just say yes. Be willing to meet with people who have powerfu...
Amy Gardner: Why Lawyers Suck at Time Management 16.05.2022 32:09
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Amy Gardner discuss: Mistakes lawyers make with their time. Taking the initiative to learn the things that you did not learn in law school. Solutions to getting your time under control. Track your time and see if you’re actually spending the time where you want to be. Key Takeaways: Building relationships is not something that can happen when you try and do it fa...
Justin Weinrich: The Chess Game of Networking 12.05.2022 36:08
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Justin Weinrich discuss: Justin’s journey of building his own firm in a city where he knew nobody. Scheduling your networking without burning out. Creativity in your networking connections (not everyone wants more business). Niching down to perfect your craft and be known for that among your network. Key Takeaways: Strategically plan who you are going to net...
Paul Porvaznik: Motivational Quotes and Conversation to Elevate Your Business Development 09.05.2022 40:32
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Paul Porvaznik discuss: Thinking about business development (even when things are going well). Taking action on taking control of your career. Meeting with the right people and asking the right questions. Start developing your book of business now. Key Takeaways: Having your own clients is one of the best ways to create job security, regardless of where you...
Clare Fanner: Soft Skills are Critical Skills in Law 05.05.2022 39:43
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Clare Fanner discuss: Making an impression with purpose. Similarities and differences in the US and UK legal sectors. Changing the focus to the client and aligning it to the business while managing expectations. The enabling power of technology (without taking away from lawyer skills). Key Takeaways: Every little part of what we do matters. We can and do mak...
Charlie Uniman: The Godfather of Legal Tech 02.05.2022 33:09
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Charlie Uniman discuss: The relationship between time and value. The evolution of practicing law. Adopting good legal tech. Utilizing tech to allow you to do the best job possible for your client. Key Takeaways: There are many websites that review legal tech. Check them out and see what can help you to become more productive and more efficient in your firm....
Amy Mariani: Growing a Business Focused Law Firm 28.04.2022 32:10
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Amy Mariani discuss: Transitioning to mediation from another role. Getting efficient with networking. Providing value in networking and in connecting. Calendering in your business development tasks, not just your law related tasks. Key Takeaways: Even if you have a large network, it takes time to grow and cultivate the relationships needed to grow your book...
Michele Wucker: The Risks We Take and Your Risk Fingerprint 25.04.2022 34:03
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Michele Wucker discuss: What the gray rhino is and what it means. Why people are hesitant to take risks. Risk tolerances, risk adversity, and individual risk relationships. Evaluating risks and understanding the risk of not taking a risk. Key Takeaways: We should not assume that because something is ever present and talked about means that it is being handled p...
Keith Sbiral: Delegation for Success 21.04.2022 33:23
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Keith Sbiral discuss: Saying yes to the right things, and no to the less important things. Why lawyers do and do not delegate. Delegation authority and framework. The 5 levels of authority. Key Takeaways: You don’t have to delegate everything right away - prioritize what you need to do and delegate the things that are below your pay grade. Delegation is al...
Manny Griffiths: The Client Experience 18.04.2022 31:25
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Manny Griffiths discuss: The importance of understanding the client experience. How Milestones can help you to bridge the gap and provide a better client experience. Setting expectations for both the client and the lawyer. Relationships and communication. Key Takeaways: If the end result is good, the client could still be happy. But if they are referring you to...
Marko Evans: Law Firm Recruiting and Retention 14.04.2022 36:07
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Marko Evans discuss: Developing remote culture. Specialization versus generalization. What a good recruiter needs to know. Transparency and compensation. Key Takeaways: Law firms should have an internal recruiter to keep the pipeline of great talent coming. Recruiting is an ongoing process. Retention times are shorter than ever and you want to make sure t...
Lori Ann Fox: Take Your Shot, Live Your Life 11.04.2022 41:42
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Lori Ann Fox discuss: Learning, growing, and moving forward without fear of failure. The evolution of the legal practice in the last 15 years. How Lawmato works and can be a game changer for you. Taking a chance and not waiting until retirement. Key Takeaways: You want to give a client the right service that they really need, not just what may be kind of wh...
Carl Ficks: Well-Being in the Law 07.04.2022 33:57
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Carl Ficks discuss: Giving it your all in all that you do. The art and practice of lawyering. Everyone has the same 168 Hours in a week. Resources available to lawyers to better your life. Key Takeaways: Regardless of what your gift is, if you don’t bring your best effort, you are going to sacrifice it. The state bar associations are getting into lawyer we...
Hillard Sterling: The Four Pillars of Business Development 04.04.2022 36:18
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Hillard Sterling discuss: The four pillars of business development and how they interact with each other. Building on your own content with repurposing and leveraging on multiple platforms. How KLTR - Know, LIke, Trust, Refer - is aided by the four pillars of business development. Being proactive in following up on your business development contacts. Key Ta...
Paul Furiga: Standing Apart in a Field of Sameness 31.03.2022 33:05
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Paul Furiga discuss: Sharing your Story with the decision makers. Understanding your Story, not just your story. Where to start in understanding what your Story is about. How your Story affects your marketing and business development. Key Takeaways: The most important marketing asset an attorney owns, a law firm owns, is their story - the one thing that re...
Marsha Redmon: Thought Leadership and Harnessing the Virtual World 28.03.2022 34:44
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Marsha Redmon discuss: Using presence and thought leadership to build your practice. The worst mistakes people are making when communicating digitally. Diminishing attention spans and strengthening your messaging. The breadth and depth of thought leadership. Key Takeaways: If you are on camera, you have authority as you are speaking if you speak with presence a...
Jessica Stern: Building Your Brand Around Your Magic Statement 24.03.2022 29:12
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jessica Stern discuss: Niche down to stand out in the sea of lawyers. Honing in on when you are your best self at work. Rate your clients and the type of work that is coming in to understand where you should be focusing your work. Tapping into your magic statement and understanding what keeps you going every day. Key Takeaways: If you niche down to what you...
Stacey Brown Randall: Relationship Based Referrals Without Asking 21.03.2022 38:25
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Stacey Brown Randall discuss: Generating referrals without asking, without manipulation, without compensation, without networking to know a ton of people, and without just waiting and hoping that they'll happen. Showing up and being seen as the expert. The power behind words and using them for good. Looking at the data of where your referrals came from (not just...
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