Steve Fretzin
BE THAT LAWYER
BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.
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Steve Fretzin
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Bill Himmelstein: Givers Gain Philosophy of Networking 05.12.2022 38:50
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Bill Himmelstein discuss: Building relationships in a transactional industry. Having focus on who and how you are helping others. The 3 Keys to Finding a Good Networking Partner. Giving with a purpose to expand the pie. Key Takeaways: Networking is rooted in a philosophy of giving to gain. Search for networking partners whose values align with yours. Take the t...
Josh Schwadron: Standing Out as a Personal Injury Lawyer 01.12.2022 31:55
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Josh Schwadron discuss: Lawyers and advertising in the United States. How Mighty is changing the personal injury law world. Secrets of personal injury lawyers. Separating yourself from other law firms. Key Takeaways: Personal injury lawyers don’t compete on fees or on what they do, they compete on marketing and on who can scream the loudest and stand out. In pe...
Emily Hirsekorn: Energy Management, Performance, and Well-Being for Leaders 28.11.2022 39:45
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Emily Hirsekorn discuss: The relationship between leadership and learning. Why and when lawyers need support in their careers. 4 of the most common blocks to success. The learning that can happen at different stages of your career. Key Takeaways: When you are growing and learning and leading in a way that is most authentic to you, that is where you are goin...
Denny Esford: Planning for Success 24.11.2022 33:58
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Denny Esford discuss: How lawyers can better plan their day and execute that plan. Build in “no” answers to your strategy. Executing your business plan first thing in the day. Content calendars, scheduling your business development, and preparing in advance. Key Takeaways: Without having clients coming in, consistently, running your firm is just an expense....
David Neagle: Getting Unstuck to Find Success 21.11.2022 38:47
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and David Neagle discuss: Why belief is the most important thing to your success. Getting around walls that make you seem stuck. How lawyers can overcome the struggle of negativity. The formula for solving your problems. Key Takeaways: You don’t have a problem, you only create problems. What you see as a problem, just is. You give what is the meaning of problem...
Stuart Baum: Masterful Networking to Make Business Development Fun 17.11.2022 39:06
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Stuart Baum discuss: Marketing missteps and mistakes that lawyers make in building their firm. Making business development fun. Leveraging what you are good at and what you like to do. Stop being selfish and learn to be a resource. Key Takeaways: The only failure is a failure to learn from your failures. There are a lot of ways to do business development....
Sasha Berson: Investing in Client Acquisition 14.11.2022 40:32
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Sasha Berson discuss: Statistics around lawyers in the United States. The relationship between marketing and company performance. Setting expectations with your marketing team. Why you need to keep up on your advertising and marketing budgets. Key Takeaways: Being a rainmaker is infinitely more profitable than just being a lawyer. Most marketing companies...
Michael and Courtney English: SOPs for Your Efficient Law Firm 10.11.2022 31:24
In this episode, Steve Fretzin, Michael English, and Courtney English discuss: Improving efficiency to improve your life and business. Why SOPs are so important to your law firm and business. Top challenges lawyers face in automating and scaling. Writing out the SOPs for your law firm. Key Takeaways: SOPs (standard operating procedures) are the key to creating a streamlined law firm and will all...
Neil Schwan: Cost Reduction for Your Law Firm 07.11.2022 26:27
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Neil Schwan discuss: Why lawyers don’t keep up with their expenses. Top expenses lawyers have that they don’t look at. Automation and outsourcing to reduce costs. The power of looking to help others first. Key Takeaways: You may not need to wait out a full lease if you are looking to move on. There are options out there, and speaking with a tenant advocate...
Kathleen McEntee: Packaging Your Passion 03.11.2022 33:28
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Kathleen McEntee discuss: Kathleen’s journey from strategy to full service marketing. Branding versus marketing. Distinguishing yourself from your competitors. Talking about what you do and not assuming people know what you do and what your brand is. Key Takeaways: When you are living in the weeds, you are not looking at the bigger picture and looking at how...
Sarah Reiff-Hekking: Time Management to Take Back Your Life and Business 31.10.2022 33:45
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Sarah Reiff-Hekking discuss: Understanding and implementing time management. Building the dream job to live your dream life. Changing behaviors to change your life. Creating the time and environment to focus and do the tasks that only you can do. Key Takeaways: The implementation of time management will look different for everyone because we are all wired di...
Karin Conroy: Starting with Strategy for Success 27.10.2022 35:47
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Karin Conroy discuss: Setting your pricing to attract the kind of clients you are wanting to work with. Knowing where your strengths are and hiring for your weaknesses. Having your own plan for your website that fits with your strategy. Understanding your strategy to understand your budget. Key Takeaways: Start in the right way with your pricing and you won...
Mike Chastaine: Building a Profitable Law Firm 24.10.2022 35:31
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Mike Chastaine discuss: Understanding your financials and having money set aside for the rollercoaster of owning your firm. Having the courage to say no. Lessons for young lawyers and those going solo. Qualifying your clients and listening to their stories. Key Takeaways: If you’re worried about paying your rent, you’re not focused on your clients. For you...
BE THAT LAWYER LIVE!: International Business Development for Lawyers with Clare Fanner and Catherine O’Connell Part 2 20.10.2022 35:19
In this episode, Steve Fretzin, Clare Fanner, and Catherine O'Connell discuss: Producing content for SEO, social media, and the desired exposure. Collaboration not competition with other lawyers. Where to invest time and get business from existing clients. What to consider before doing business internationally. Key Takeaways: Creating content is less of an issue, but how to show that content...
BE THAT LAWYER LIVE!: International Business Development for Lawyers with Clare Fanner and Catherine O’Connell Part 1 17.10.2022 38:22
In this episode, Steve Fretzin, Clare Fanner, and Catherine O'Connell discuss: What is happening with the economy and legal industry in the UK and Japan. Why Japanese businesses are looking to invest outside of the country. How COVID helped to elevate business development and marketing for law firms. The way in which LinkedIn has changed marketing and business development. Key Takeaways: Many...
Brandy Derrick: Making More Money in Your Law Practice 13.10.2022 34:05
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Brandy Derrick discuss: Why lawyers are not great with money, billing, and books. How lawyers can reduce AR and overhead costs. Understanding your numbers and making more money. Delegating and outsourcing your bookkeeping. Key Takeaways: You are not taught how to do bookkeeping in law school or typically at the law firm level. Collect a retainer up front a...
Blaine Oelkers: Time Management and Building Better Habits 10.10.2022 37:34
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Blaine Oelkers discuss: The power of Selfluence. Build your firm with what matters most to you in mind. The 30-minute hour and how time compression works. Single-tasking, multitasking, and batch-tasking. Key Takeaways: The easiest thing to control is you. The use of your time and the habits you create will determine where you end up in life. What you decid...
Michael Fielding: The 3-Part Business Development Formula 06.10.2022 31:11
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Michael Fielding discuss: Changing your mindset around networking. Michael’s three-part formula for business development. The evolution of client problems and anticipating where the market is headed. Growing your knowledge base and expanding your ability to solve problems. Key Takeaways: Maintain the relationships that you build in law school as well as in your...
Mitch Beinhaker: Increasing Automation to Increase Business 03.10.2022 38:37
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Mitch Beinhaker discuss: Things lawyers are more challenged by than ever before. Using automation to run your life and practice more effectively. The changing landscape of employees needed in a law firm. Virtual collaboration and running a virtual office. Key Takeaways: You want to run your practice in a way that makes it easy for clients and other attorneys...
Michelle Arentz: Aligning the Head, Heart, and Briefcase 29.09.2022 35:22
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Michelle Arentz discuss: People’s desire to learn, grow, and improve. How to resurrect learning in adults. What law firm managers should be thinking about in running their teams. Connecting with your employees and team on every level of the organization. Key Takeaways: In everything you do, you are either setting your team up for success or for failure, make su...
Davina Frederick: Gaining Clarity for Success 26.09.2022 34:08
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Davina Frederick discuss: Davina’s career path and how she found her niche within the niche. Building a team with the right people and scaling your law firm. The seven essential systems all lawyers need. Alignment, attraction, and having clarity in yourself. Key Takeaways: There are many things that will allow you to make fewer mistakes as you build your la...
Tom Lambotte: Cybersecurity for Your Law Firm 22.09.2022 31:21
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Tom Lambotte discuss: How he entered the cybersecurity industry and built his businesses to help lawyers. A multi-layered security system for your law firm's cybersecurity. Cyber threats to solo and small law firms. Preventing data breaches in your law firm. Key Takeaways: Most major case software doesn’t care if you are on Mac or PC. The use of Mac computer...
Brian Beckcom: Building a Law Practice for Your Life and Happiness 19.09.2022 36:27
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Brian Beckcom discuss: Doing the hard thing, even when that means doing nothing. How Brian’s childhood led him to build his own personal injury law firm. Overcoming the peer pressure and expectations society (and big law) puts on you as a lawyer. Taking action with purpose and passion to get the most out of your talents and strengths. Key Takeaways: The only th...
Liz Wendling: The Duelling Banjos of Rainmaking 15.09.2022 35:38
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Liz Wendling discuss: Removing your blinders to move forward in business. The biggest mistakes lawyers make in growing their firm. Making a difference in the first 30 seconds of an intake call. The process to make the client confident and comfortable in you. Key Takeaways: When you do everything well in a conversation, the close will happen naturally (but, yes,...
Laura Terrell: Cultivating a Business Mindset in Your Legal Career 12.09.2022 31:56
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Laura Terrell discuss: The increased focus on the business of law. The need for doing marketing in your law practice. Running a law practice is running a business. Understanding your client's industry and needs not just their legal needs. Key Takeaways: Staying on top of the issues, more so than through a printed publication, is key to staying on top of what is...
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