Battling With Business

Battling with Business

Business EN ↓ 164 episodes

In this podcast, Gareth Tennant, a former Royal Marines Officer, and Chris Kitchener, a veteran of the software development world, explore ideas and concepts around teams and teamwork, leaders and leadership, and all things in between. It’s a discussion between a former military commander and a business manager, comparing and contrasting their experiences as they attempt to work out what makes teams, leaders, and businesses tick.

Author

Battling With Business

Category

Business

Latest episode

Jun 11, 2026

Where to listen?

Podcasts in the app Replaio Radio Coming soon

Podcasts are coming to the app soon. Install now and be the first to see a whole new take on podcasts

Get it on Google Play Install for free Android 5M+ downloads · 4.8 rating iOS soon

Episodes

Episode 51 - New Years Special - A year of Battling with Business 04.01.2024

In this New Years special Chris and Gareth review the first year of the podcast discussing their favourite episodes, notable guests and the most interesting insights.  We reviewed Ian Peggs episode on the role of Chaplains, Joe Browns contributions on Leadership and mentoring, Mark McGraths insights on the OODA loop as well as the contributions from Mary Brazier, Waitman Beorn, Douglas Waterfall a...

Episode 50 - The Christmas Special - Chris and Gareth’s personal journeys that led them to the Podcast 21.12.2023

Gareth and Chris thought that the end of the year might be a good time to reevaluate why they do the podcast and explore a little bit more about each of their own personal journeys that has led them to being self-confessed Leadership, Management and Strategy nerds.  Gareth talks about process of becoming a Royal Marine Commando. Chris describes his formative years at Britania Royal Naval College,...

Episode 49 - OODA with Mark McGrath 14.12.2023

In this episode, Chris and Gareth are delighted to be joined by Mark McGrath the Chief Operating Officer of AGLX and co-host of the 'No Way Out' Podcast.  As a US Marines Officer, economist, and expert on the works of John Boyd, Mark is the perfect guest to help the Battling with Business team really get to grips with the concept of the OODA Loop.  

Episode 48 - Influencers #6 - David Sterling & Paddy Mayne - The founders the SAS 07.12.2023

The Special Air Service (SAS) is on of the most infamous and yet mysterious Special Forces Units in the world.  It all started as a ruse to convince the enemy that the British has considerable Airborne fighting power in the Northern Deserts of North Africa in the Second World War.  Several tenacious, bright and arguably slightly unhinged men set out to turn this myth into as legend.  Two of these...

Episode 47- The Gardener of Lashkar Gar - with Defence Editor of The Times, Larisa Brown 30.11.2023

In this episode we have the privilege to be joined by the award winning journalist and Defence Editor of 'The Times', Larisa Brown.  We discuss her new book The Gardener of Lashkar Gah: The Afghans who risked everything to fight the Taliban.   This book explores the courage of the people of Afghanistan who risked everything to work with British Soldiers in the fight against the Taliban.  Larisa te...

Episode 46 - The Starfish & The Spider and the power of decentralised networks 23.11.2023

In this episode we look at the concepts from the Book The Starfish and the Spider by Ori Brafman and Rod Beckstrom.  We discuss the benefits and disadvantages of decentralisation.   Using the analogy of the Starfish as a decentralised and self-healing system and the Spider as a centralised system, the book introduces the contrasting characteristics between organisations that embody these differing...

Episode 45 - Lessons in stress management from Bomber Command with Mary Brazier 16.11.2023

Mary is both a historian and senior manager.  She is currently researching the lengths the RAF went to to protect Bomber Crews from the stresses of a very new type of warfare - strategic bombing.  In the episode, we discuss how to identify mental stress and mental fatigue, prevention vs cure, and the meaning of resilience.  Join us as we learn about the wartime RAFs approach to stress management a...

Episode 44 - Influencers #5 - Dolly Parton 09.11.2023

Perhaps a surprising choice for this Podcast, what could a country & western singer possibly teach us about business, leadership, or decision-making? Turn out, quite a lot.  Listen to Gareth and Chris explore the remarkable life of one of America's most beloved singers.  From her humble routes, she set out to be successful. As a musician, businesswoman, and philanthropist she has undoubtedly c...

Episode 43 - Why people do bad things: Exploring the systemic and institutional failures that led to the Holocaust with Dr. Waitman Beorn 02.11.2023

In this episode, we are privileged to be joined by Dr. Waitman Wade Beorn.  He is an author and historian and one of the preeminent academic experts on the Holocaust and the events that led up to the most heinous and barbaric episodes in human history.  He is also a previous Tank Commander from the US Cavalry and as such has a tactical appreciation of small team management. In this facinating disc...

Episode 42 - How to get people dancing; first followers and loyal dissent 26.10.2023

After a party at Chris's house, he pushed the emergency podcast button to ask why he couldn't get anyone dancing?  We explore the concept of the first follwer and the power they have in driving group behaviours.  The conversation moves on to wider group dynamics, group-think, and  the idea of loyal dissent.  We discuss the conditions required to allow team members to normalise good behaviours and...

Episode 41 - The Loneliness of Command 19.10.2023

When leaders feel that the decisions they need to make isolate them from their teams or even their superiors, they can feel the stress and pressure of their position.   In this episode, Chris and Gareth share their experiences of feeling the loneliness of command and explore why this happens. Emotional stress is normal, but there are things that can exacerbate it and there are mitigations to help...

Episode 40 - The Influencers #4 - Erwin Rommel, ’The Desert Fox’ - Part 2 12.10.2023

Johannes Erwin Rommel, 'The Desert Fox' was a German Field Marshal during the Second World War. Perhaps no other military leader came out of the war with a greater reputation. In this 2-part Influencers episode, Chris and Gareth explore how the legacy of Rommel has endured.  Was he a genius or is he over-rated? And why does the myth of the ‘Good German’ endure despite him being a senior Officer in...

Episode 39 - The Influencers #4 - Erwin Rommel, ’The Desert Fox’ - Part 1 12.10.2023

Johannes Erwin Rommel, 'The Desert Fox' was a German Field Marshal during the Second World War. Perhaps no other military leader came out of the war with a greater reputation. In this 2-part Influencers episode, Chris and Gareth explore how the legacy of Rommel has endured.  Was he a genius or is he over-rated? And why does the myth of the ‘Good German’ endure despite him being a senior Officer in...

Episode 38 - Battling with VUCA. Making sense of Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity and Ambiguity 05.10.2023

VUCA, a term that originates from US Army thinking around the dynamic and dangerous conditions of contemporary warfare, that bleeds across into the corporate lexicon.  But what is it and what can we do about it?  In this episode, Gareth breaks down each of the constituent parts of what makes things VUCA, and then in discussion with Chris, they try to find ways to overcome these challenges. 

Episode 37 - Do you want to play a game? 28.09.2023

Chris and Gareth introduce games that they have each run with corporate participants.  Both games are quite different and as a result, engender different experiences, emotional responses, and lessons. Over the course of the episode, they discuss the specifics of the workshops they've run using these games as well as the wider value of games and these sorts of events.  

Episode 36 - Leading teams through transformation and the power of external perspectives with Pia Wendell 21.09.2023

Gareth and Chris are delighted to be joined by Pia Wendelbo an experienced mentor and business coach from 'Scandinavian Change Agents'.   Between them, they explore the value of having external advisors within organizations, especially within the C-Suite. Begging the question 'who mentors the people at the top? The conversation also covers change and transformation programs and the need to shift t...

Episode 35 - The Influencers #3 - John Boyd, the greatest strategist since Sun Tzu 14.09.2023

Once again we deep dive into the life of an individual who has changed the way we think about the world.  Col John Boyd is the creator of the infamous 'OODA loop' as well as many other concepts that have changed our perceptions of strategy.  In the discussion, we try to untangle myth from reality, tackle misconceptions of the OODA loop, and chat about the links between mechanics and human dynamics...

Episode 34 - Lie, damned lies, and Deception! 07.09.2023

Chris and Gareth explore the difficult subject of Mis, Dis, and Mal information. trying to work out when, if ever, it's appropriate for a leader to mislead people or hide things.  They also discuss the difference between honesty and transparency, how to capture the narrative, and how to lead people in an ever more polarised world. 

Episode 33 - Decision making lessons from J Robert Oppenheimer and the Manhattan Project 30.08.2023

Having just come back from a screening of the Christopher Nolan film, Oppenheimer, Chris and Gareth discuss what we might learn from such a profound and important moment in our collective history.  From project management, through to leading teams on morally difficult tasks.  Gareth discusses leading teams in Combat and they both try to understand what led to General Groves and Dr Oppenheimer ulti...

Episode 32 - The Leadership role of Chaplains with Ian Pegg 24.08.2023

In this episode we are joined by Ian Pegg, a senior manager in his own right, but also a historian who has focused on the role of the Chaplain during the Second World War.  We talk about the surprising role chaplains have on Unit cohesion and explore the need for soft skills in Leadership that they often fulfill.  Is this a gap in the civilian workplace?

Bonus Episode 2 - Human Machine Teaming and the future of military collaboration 19.08.2023

In the second of our bonus episodes Gareth has recorded an essay  he wrote for Karve International on the lesson we can learn from the current conflict in Ukraine on the role of Human Machine Teaming and the future of military collaboration.

Episode 31 - Influencers #2 - Leonard Cheshire 17.08.2023

There are few people who achieve greatness and leave a lasting impression on the world after they die.  To do it twice in two completely unrelated fields is truly remarkable.  Leonard Cheshire, a decorated pilot, commander, philanthropist, and charity worker.  In the second of our Influencers series, we try to unpack the extraordinary life of Leonard Cheshire and try to understand what made him so...

Episode 30 - Why teams don’t work - Hubris and humility with Douglas Waterfall 10.08.2023

In the second of our chats with Douglas, we discuss the difference between the visionary leaders that change the world and the mavericks that break things and people.  We discuss the Ocean Gate disaster and examples from our own career where arrogance and exceptionalism have led to poor outcomes.

Episode 29 - Why teams work - cross functional communications with Douglas Waterfall 03.08.2023

In this episode, we chat with Douglas Waterfall about the concept of technical debt and why software engineers may have a different perspective from project managers. We explore why some teams can build shared consciousness and cohesion whilst others don't and what this can mean for strategy.

Episode 28 - Resilience, stress and adaptive organisations 27.07.2023

We discuss the symbiosis between individual and collective resilience. Gareth and Chris both open up about their own personal struggles and use these to explore resilience and the ability to withstand and endure stress without becoming damaged.  This is a leadership challenge that applies to the military, business and every day aspects of life.  

Listen to the Battling with Business podcast in Replaio

Radio and podcasts in one app - free, with no sign-up. Install today and do not miss the launch

Get it on Google Play

Replaio is not a podcast publisher; show names, artwork and audio belong to their authors and are distributed through public RSS feeds.