BKBT Productions
Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks is the tech podcast about humans. Hosted by George K and George A, this podcast examines AI, infrastructure, technology adoption, and the broader implications of tech developments through both guest interviews and news commentary. Our guests bring honest perspectives on what's working, what's broken, and new ways to examine the roles and impacts of technology in our lives. We challenge conventional tech industry narratives and dig into real-world consequences over hype. Whether you're deeply technical or just trying to understand how technology shapes society, thi...
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Episodes
SPECIAL: The Cyber Community Month Challenge 🎃 11.09.2023 37:53
🤝 George K and George A join forces with Allan Alford from the Cyber Ranch Podcast, and Aaron Pritz and Cody Rivers of Simply Solving Cyber! 🤨 Together, this trifecta weighs in on the October bonanza that is Cybersecurity Awareness Month. While the month started in 2004 to raise cybersecurity awareness among the general public, it’s now become an excuse for vendors to inundate inboxes with inane...
Crowdsourced Cybercrime, Deepfake Tech for Sale, and Big Things Coming Soon! 05.09.2023 33:13
George K and George A reflect on recent cyber news, trends, and podcast updates! In this episode: 🤝 Cybercrime Crowdsourcing : Sophos is out with a new report on Russian hacker forums are gamifying cyberattacks. Borrowing from legitimate security events like Pwn2Own, they're offering cash prizes for innovative attack methods, but with darker aims. 🪞 Deepfake Tech Surge : With deepfake technology...
Medus4 aka Katelyn Bowden on What She's Building Next! 28.08.2023 33:12
🐍 🔥 🧨 Medus4 aka Katelyn Bowden leaps in the ring, flamethrower at the ready. A member of Cult of the Dead Cow, Katelyn is a hacker and self-described “sinfluencer.” George K and George A wanted to catch up with Katelyn after her talk at DEFCON31 on what she’s building on top of the new Veilid application framework. …And in light of our previous episode, wanted to touch on her own experiences w...
Reflection on Listener Feedback and the Dawn of Season 2! 21.08.2023 15:14
🤯 Response to our Hacker Summer Camp recap was immense! Shorter episode this week as George K and George A reflect on listener feedback, and touch on some plans for season ✌️, including… 👊⚡️ Listener support to produce MORE SWAG and hosted events! 🧳 🎙️ Bringing the Bare Knuckle energy to your next conference or gathering! Have pod, will travel. 🔥🔥 The heat can’t stop, won’t stop! ✅ Subscrib...
The Good, the Bad, and the WTF from Hacker Summer Camp 2023! 16.08.2023 41:19
What happens in Vegas...should not stay there! George K and George A share highlights and low points from Infosec’s big shindig in Sin City. The Good: 🤝 The magic of meeting folks IRL 💡 Exchange of ideas 💪 Vendors showing up with the C-suite and experienced technical staff✊ SquadCon as a show and a vibe The Bad: 🗣️ Public speaking skills need a boost 🏎️ Why are there so many F1 cars?? 🙄 If yo...
Best Of: JD Sherry Pulls Back the VC Curtain! GTM, Scaling Sales Teams, and More! 01.08.2023 44:47
The team is taking a break to celebrate the end of season 1. Here’s a replay of our conversation with JD Sherry. It offers valuable insights from the VC side, with advice on how and when to scale sales teams, and a cautionary tale about what happens when cyber startups try to do that too early. George K and George A talk to JD Sherry about his journey from CIO to VC, and everything he's learned al...
Evgeniy Kharam on Finding Common Ground, Lessons from Paintball, and Accountability 24.07.2023 48:03
💡 Evgeniy Kharam, cybersecurity architect, advisor, and evangelist, steps into the ring to talk about conferences, event follow up, and more! George K and George talk to Evgeniy about his unique journey from the Israeli Navy to working with a superstar MSSP. The conversation touches on: 🤝 How to build common ground between buyers and sellers at cybersecurity events and conferences. 🗣️ Effective...
Eliza-May Austin on Kicking the Cyber Sales Hornets Next, and Not Being a Knob 17.07.2023 49:52
🙌 Eliza-May Austin, founder and CEO of th4ts3curity.company steps into the ring! Her viral LinkedIn post seeking someone to help with sales without being pushy or a knob set off something of a firestorm in cybersecurity sales. 😳 George K and George A talk to Eliza about: 🚀 How she went from frustrated tech insider to CEO 🧞♂️ 🦄 ✨ The “magic genie” role she’s looking for, a consultative...
SPECIAL REPLAY: Cyber Marketing and Sales without the Buzzwords and BS 14.07.2023 57:11
Today, we have a special Replay episode, courtesy of our friends at Hacker Valley Media . This is an interview that George K did along with Dani Woolf, founder and CEO of Audience 1st. They released a report in June analyzing vendor marketing messaging at RSA, and compared those finds with survey data from security buyers. Our mission was to examine any divergence and suggest ways to close the gap...
Threads, Threats, Pouty Billionaires, and Meet Up at Black Hat! 10.07.2023 17:15
Short episode this week! George K and George A weigh in on threads, cyber news, but most importantly, how to meet up at Black Hat 2023! 👀 🧵 So Threads is a thing, but are we just all playing in the billionaires’ sandbox? 🛡️ Supply chain and OT attacks are bananas right now 🎲 Meet the Bare Knuckles & Brass Tacks squad at Black Hat! We’ll be alongside Audience 1st, The Cyber Queens, Hac...
Nafis Muhammad on Building Trust & Using GenAI the Right Way 03.07.2023 30:25
🤖 👍 Longtime listener and seasoned BDR, Nafis Muhammad, steps into the ring! What a story this guy has! George K and George A talk to Nafis about what he learned about building relationships and trust from selling door to door. Also in this episode: 😳 How Nafis persevered after trying to cold connect with George A 💡 How he incorporated ChatGPT and Bard into his workflows without sacrificing re...
👊 ⚡ GIVEAWAY TIME! 26.06.2023 1:12
👊 ⚡ GIVEAWAY TIME! We're giving away 3️⃣ Bare Knuckles & Brass Tacks custom snapback and sticker sets this week! George K and George A are busy planning the next few episodes. No new drop this week, but we wanna hear from you! Here's how you can win: 🔗 Share the link to a favorite episode on #LinkedIn this week. ✅ Be sure to tag the show so we know! 💬 And t...
🏆 🤪 Awards Nonsense, How to Botch a Demo, and Keeping Up with Enterprise AI! 20.06.2023 28:10
This week, George K and George A delve into the sales shenanigans they endured recently, and report from the frontlines of enterprise AI tech. In this episode: 🏆 Dubious honors that don’t help anything 🫠 How to royally botch a demo 📢 What old school event outreach can teach about personalization 🤖 And George A reports back from the AWS Summit on new enterprise AI capabilities ✅ Listen and sub...
JD Sherry Pulls Back the VC Curtain! GTM, Scaling Sales Teams, and More! 12.06.2023 43:53
😳 🥊 🥊 Somehow we convinced a VC client partner to step into the ring! George K and George A talk to JD Sherry about his journey from CIO to VC, and everything he's learned along the way, like: 📈 Common pitfalls in GTM strategies 💰 How to scale a sales team successfully 💸 and how NOT to scale one 🤝 Why a consultative approach leads to longer term success ⚙️ and all the elements that n...
SPECIAL: Women in Cyber Panel Interview! 05.06.2023 47:16
In this Special Episode, George K and George A catch up with three women who attended the Canadian Women in Cybersecurity conference hosted by SiberX. All three bring different levels of experience to the conversation. In this episode: 💡 What they took away from the conference 🤝 The role of mentorship and how to seek them out 🚪 Breaking into the industry and HR barriers ⚡️ Tips for networking...
Ben Kelly on Getting More Meetings with Less and Just Being Yer Damn Self! 30.05.2023 26:15
We're back! After a little break, George K and George A are back in the ring. This time, they're talking to Ben Kelly, the BDR referred to us by past guest, Mike Rogers! 📅 Learn how Ben is getting more meetings by sending FEWER emails! 🤝 Why Ben operates by the golden rule 📑 Why research and carefully crafted emails beat generic automation 🗣️ What he says when gets pushback 🐉 🛡️ And the return...
The Georges Take on Toronto! Team Development, GPT Trends, Sales Tomfoolery 15.05.2023 29:58
Now dropping on Mondays ! In this episode, George K and George A take on: Toronto! That's right, both Georges are heading to the Canadian Women in Cybersecurity conference, hosted by SiberX. This podcast was cooked up after a ten-minute conversation at Black Hat 2022. Imagine what the crew can cook up in 24 hours! 💸 Sales tomfoolery continues, including ghosting warm leads...?! Isn’t revenue the...
London Miller on Seeking Connection, Discipline, and DEI Efforts 10.05.2023 41:41
How do you make an authentic connection with security buyers? London Miller jumps into the ring to talk about his journey from D1 athlete to cybersecurity sales Jedi. George K and George A talk to London about: 🏈 Translating "non-technical" skills sets to cyber 🤔 The mix of humility and curiosity needed to succeed in sales 🤝 How seeking connection builds trust with buyers ✊ And how DEI efforts...
RSA After Action Report, Heinous Outreach, and New LLM Security Stack 04.05.2023 42:02
While away at RSA, George K and George A heard about or received some heinous (and hilarious) outreach attempts including: 🥣 Alphabet soup terror 🗓️Calendar missiles fired at personal email addresses 🫠And using public fines to get a meeting Then they dig into new technologies announced at RSA and talk potential impacts to security team practices. Enjoy! ✅ Subscribe wherever you get your podcast...
💥 The Hits Keep Coming: Best of Bare Knuckles & Brass Tacks 26.04.2023 23:59
We're away at RSA this week, but the hits keep coming! Enjoy this "best of" episode featuring parts of our episodes featuring: (Serial killer) SCARY BDR tactics Erika Eakins 👑 on sexism and misogyny from the buying side Maria Graham ⚔️ runs the SALES GAUNTLET Mike Rogers 🥋 on sales tactics that break trust or leave buyers feeling icky Kayla Cytron-Thaler 💡 on the creativity and curiosity the SD...
Victoria Germanova on Trial by Fire Cyber Sales, Metrics, and Repairing Trust 19.04.2023 44:03
What if there was a better way to align what cybersecurity leaders are looking for and what vendors are selling? Victoria Germanova, founder and CEO of Callity believes technology can help do just that. In this episode, George K and George A talk to Victoria about: 🔥 Her experience with the cold-call trial by fire 🛡 Her mission to repair trust in B2B sales 🤝 How technology might libe...
Kayla Cytron-Thaler on Creativity and Avoiding "Commission Breath" 12.04.2023 40:29
What makes a successful SDR? And how do they stand out against all the noise? SDR Manager Kayla Cytron-Thaler enters the ring, after having successfully gotten through to George A on LinkedIn! No really, he tried to ignore her, but she's that good. 👀 George K and George A jump in, and there are real gems in this episode: 3️⃣ Kayla's 3 Cs for SDR success: Creativity, Curiosity, and Coachabil...
CISO Mike Rogers on How to Behave Yourself in the Sales Dating Game 29.03.2023 40:20
👀 If sales were a dating game, how would the other side look at your behavior? Cordial, friendly, or creepy incel? CISO Mike Rogers jumps into the ring - and he's a legit trained fighter! - to talk about what works and what's grounds for dismissal. George K and George get real loud on this one! 😬 🔥 tips in this episode: Is the CISO really your buyer? Is that where outreach should st...
Chaos abbreviated: GPT4, SVB, WTF?! 22.03.2023 25:37
So...some things happened last week. George K and George A weigh in on the whirlwind with their usual delicacy and diplomacy. Mentioned in the show: Dark Reading article on measuring employee input of sensitive data into ChatGPT George K experimented with a new app using OpenAI's API (say that three times fast), ChatPDF , which allows users to use regular text commands to query the contents of PDF...
Maria Graham on Building Trust with Cybersecurity Buyers 15.03.2023 34:16
Long time listener Maria Graham steps into the ring! George K and George A talk to Maria about how her prospecting is built on research and looking for human commonalities, and why she thinks email doesn’t work anymore. 🤯 🔥 🐉 ⚔️ We also unveil a new segment: THE SALES GAUNTLET! Also in this episode: Brass Tacks on outreach strategies George A ambushes George K! George K and Maria co...
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