Hayden Smith & Dave Gow
Aussie FIRE | Financial Independence Retire Early
The Aussie FIRE podcast is the ultimate guide to Financial Independence for Australians. Having started life as an e-book, then an audiobook, it's now reached its final form: a podcast that will keep on giving. The Aussie FIRE audiobook is brought to you by Pearler, Australia's favourite long-term investing community; and Dave Gow, the brains behind Strong Money Australia. Each episode explores a different aspect of Financial Independence, so stay tuned for new releases! https://pearler.com https://strongmoneyaustralia.com/ DISCLAIMER: We’re big fans of sharing experiences and talking about mo...
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
32. Credit card hacking 14.02.2025 52:40
At a glance, credit cards might seem at odds with Financial Independence. After all, credit cards accrue “bad” debt, which many people consider anathema to FIRE goals. Even so, for those who manage their budgets well, credit cards can play a role in a frugal lifestyle. And while Dave Gow doesn’t have experience in this realm, Hayden does! Join the duo this session as they explore credit card hacki...
31. FI case study: "Do I have enough to retire early?" Plus ETFs vs managed funds 31.01.2025 41:17
Much like the Chupacabra or Berkshire Hathaway’s founding story, Aussie FIRE’s FI case studies have become the stuff of legend. This time ‘round, Dave and Hayden answer a question from a listener which may well have crossed your mind: “Do I have enough in savings, investments, and super to retire early?” Of course, this person’s portfolio, income, and living circumstances are specific to them. Eve...
30. Investing in ETFs vs super 17.01.2025 52:15
Both are often touted as effective vehicles for long-term investing. But for those working towards FIRE , there are some key differences to consider between ETFs and super. On one hand, super is purpose-built for retirement, and offers a number of unique potential tax benefits. On the other, ETFs are more liquid, and may better suit the “early” in “retire early”. So, what’s the right balance? Shou...
29. FI case study: freedom in your 40s, DRPs, and combating social isolation 03.01.2025 43:43
That’s right – it’s time for another one of our much-ballyhooed FI case studies! This time, Dave and Hayden hear from a thirtysomething couple who would like to be work-optional by their 40s. They’ve earned, scrimped, saved, and invested… and they’re wondering whether they’ve made any mistakes in the process. Whilst Dave and Hayden aren’t the Arbiters on All Things FI, they’re happy to share...
28. How to find unlimited motivation on the FI journey 20.12.2024 50:55
Let’s be honest: Financial Independence can feel like a BIG task. The progress is incremental, the timelines are longer than we’d like, and the temptation to splurge can haunt us. Fortunately, there are a litany of hacks you can apply to remain perpetually motivated. From plugging into “reverse motivation”, to breaking your goals into smaller milestones, to surrounding yourself with like-minded pe...
27. FI case study: semi retirement, island living & getting shares stolen 06.12.2024 46:17
Send us a text Because Financial Independence looks different for everyone, there’s seldom a one-size-fits-all approach to reaching it. That’s why the Aussie FIRE podcast loves to consider case studies from listeners. In doing so, we can all consider how different people, with different circumstances, could reach FIRE. This time around, Dave and Hayden assess a case study from a listener who has m...
26. A deep dive into Hayden's finances 22.11.2024 1:07:15
Send us a text In a previous episode, we conducted a deep dive into Dave’s finances . However, keen observers and long-time listeners may have noticed something: Dave is only one of TWO hosts on this podcast. What’s more, the other host is renowned for his novel, proactive, and sometimes wacky cost-cutting measures. We are, of course, talking about Hayden – co-founder of investing platform Pearler...
25. Q&A: Dave's portfolio, debt recycling follow-ups, and a listener's success story 08.11.2024 1:11:35
Send us a text Dave and Hayden’s Q&As have become a regular thing on this podcast. Sure, audience feedback has been overwhelmingly positive, which is the key reason they’ve become part of the landscape. At a deeper level, though, Dave and Hayden see it as a golden opportunity to connect with the community. That’s why they’re particularly excited about this session. During this episode, th...
24. House vs apartment: How to optimise your home price for FIRE 25.10.2024 45:32
Send us a text Dave and Hayden at Aussie FIRE recently received a thought-provoking question from a listener. While we’re paraphrasing slightly, its essence boiled down to: “As a long-term investor, are you better off buying a more expensive home, or buying a cheaper home and investing the difference?” Depending on your own preferences, you might have a clear idea of which approach makes the most...
23. Investing mistakes we've made (and what we've learned) 11.10.2024 53:32
Send us a text There are countless ways to learn as an investor, from books, to podcasts (like this one), to quarterly earnings reports . Even so, some of the most memorable lessons are the ones we make through trial and error. Aussie FIRE co-hosts Dave and Hayden are no exception – in fact, were it not for their investing mistakes, they wouldn’t have made it this far. In this session, they cover...
22. Singles vs couples: which is better for FI? 27.09.2024 47:20
Send us a text If you’re working towards Financial Independence Retire Early (FIRE), a question may have crossed your mind: is it easier to reach FIRE as a single person, or as a couple? Unsurprisingly, people within the FIRE community have been debating this one for a long time. And depending on who you ask, you’ll likely receive a different answer. At the end of the day, both singles and couples...
21. Aussie FIRE Q&A: ETF strategy, FI case study, and investing for kids 13.09.2024 47:34
Send us a text A few sessions ago, Dave and Hayden hosted their first Aussie FIRE audience Q&A . Well, the community seemed to enjoy it… so they’re doing it again. This time around, they answer a slew of new FIRE queries – from “What are your thoughts on US tech stocks?”; to “How would you invest $500 per month as part of an ETF strategy?”, to “How is investing for your kids different to inves...
20. Debt recycling part 2: FAQs 30.08.2024 59:49
Send us a text Last episode, Aussie FIRE co-hosts Dave and Hayden discussed debt recycling, and who can benefit from it . As it turns out, people in our community have a lot of questions about this subject. For this reason, Dave and Hayden decided to run a debt recycling FAQ. Join the Aussie FIRE duo as they answer some of the most common questions around debt recycling. These include: Is debt rec...
19. Debt recycling: What is it and who can benefit from it? 16.08.2024 56:09
Send us a text You may have suspected just from its name, but debt recycling can be a polarising topic in investing circles. Some hail it as an effective way to scale your investments. Others deride it as a source of needless complexity. But regardless of where you stand on the matter, one thing is certain: to use debt recycling, you need to know what you’re doing. In this episode, Dave and Hayden...
18. A deep dive into Dave’s finances 02.08.2024 45:03
Send us a text One of our hosts became renowned across Australia for reaching FIRE by age 28. We are, of course, referring to Dave Gow, the mastermind behind Strong Money Australia. Because Dave didn’t achieve FIRE through an investment banking job or a lofty inheritance, his journey often inspires other FIRE-seekers. In fact, many of our listeners have asked Dave to provide a detailed breakdown o...
17. Aussie FIRE Q&A: Dividends, timing the market, and ethical investing 19.07.2024 50:59
Send us a text Since launching back in 2023, the Aussie FIRE podcast has cultivated an incredible community of listeners. And, over the last few months, co-hosts Dave and Hayden have received a lot of thought-provoking questions from their audience. That’s why they were thrilled to run their very first audience Q&A. In this episode, they answer an array of listener queries on long-term investi...
16. How to calculate whether to rent or buy your home 05.07.2024 43:56
Send us a text Housing plays a pivotal role in any FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) strategy. Whether you rent or buy, you’ll need to account for your shelter before you can comfortably retire early. That’s why, in a past episode, co-hosts Dave and Hayden explored the relationship between housing and FIRE . This time around, they roll up their sleeves and crunch the numbers. In this sess...
15. Is university worth the money? 21.06.2024 49:58
Send us a text In life, there are various ways to invest. And we’re not only talking about shares versus bonds, or ETFs versus property. In fact, education can offer as much of an investment as any asset. Many Australians seem to agree; according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, around 32% of Australians hold a bachelors degree. But when you compare the fees to the earning potential, is a u...
14. Mastering your mindset 07.06.2024 53:54
Send us a text Previously on this podcast, we’ve covered how different mindsets affect your money habits . This time around, Dave ( Strong Money Australia ) and Hayden (co-founder of Pearler ) take it a step further. Beyond simply influencing your money habits, your mindset can determine: How you deal with financial setbacks How effectively your can plan for your FIRE lifestyle If and when you rea...
13. Using super to buy a home quicker 24.05.2024 46:14
Send us a text In your Financial Independence Retire Early (FIRE) travels, you may have heard of the First Home Super Saver Scheme. To oversimplify, it’s a government plan which allows you to channel some of your superannuation towards your first home deposit. If you’ve been lamenting the costs of real estate lately, the FHSSS may appeal to you. But is it a worthwhile avenue for buying your first...
12. Achieving FI on a lower income 10.05.2024 54:57
Send us a text When you listen to stories of FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early), you’d be forgiven for assuming that a huge income is a prerequisite. However, while a hefty salary does help, it’s by no means essential. In fact, many people within the FIRE community have retired early without earning in the top tax bracket. In this episode, Dave ( Strong Money Australia ) and Hayden (co-fou...
11. What we invest in & why 26.04.2024 55:44
Send us a text This session, Dave ( Strong Money Australia ) and Hayden (co-founder of Pearler ) are doing something a little different. Instead of exploring some theoretical aspect of Financial Independence Retire Early (FIRE), they share specifically what it is they invest in. They also detail why they’ve chosen these particular investments, and how they tie into each host’s FIRE plans. Of cours...
10. Are shares the best path to FIRE? 12.04.2024 49:52
Send us a text Within the Australian Financial Independence community, shares have always been a popular asset. With a bit of research, it’s easy to understand why – they’re easy to manage, they don’t require debt, and most people can get started with minimal funds. This raises the question: is investing in shares the best way to reach FIRE? In this episode, Dave ( Strong Money Australia ) and Hay...
9. When does frugality go too far? 29.03.2024 55:43
Send us a text For most people on a FIRE journey, frugality is a potent tool in their toolkit. Yes, investing plays a role – but frugality serves a range of key purposes beyond saving. For starters, it can help you unlock money you didn’t even know you were spending. And, perhaps more importantly, it can train you to better manage your finances both pre- and post-FIRE. However, does there come a p...
8. How important is housing to FIRE? 15.03.2024 1:10:11
Send us a text You MIGHT have noticed this, but people in Australia looooooove to talk about property. It’s a surefire conversation-starter if ever you’re struggling to make smalltalk, and the media won’t shut up about it. You’d be forgiven, then, for assuming that home ownership is a lynchpin of any half-decent FIRE strategy. In truth, though, it’s not the only route to long-term wealth in Austra...
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