Kelly Barner, Art of Procurement
Art of Supply
Art of Supply, hosted by Kelly Barner, draws inspiration from news headlines and expert interviews to bring you insightful coverage of today's complex supply chains.
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Jul 9, 2026
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Down but Not Out: California's Fight to Regulate Emissions 03.07.2025 19:18
There have been a number of efforts to regulate a transition to lower logistics-related emissions, and all of them involved the state of California and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). California always plays a unique role in these debates because they have the most air pollution in the country and also the toughest emissions regulations. The California Air Resources Board (CARB) predat...
A Procurement Crime at Intel: Loopholes and Lessons Learned 26.06.2025 23:17
While true crime has gained traction as a genre in the literary world, it's not often we see it applied to procurement. Yet, a fascinating and unsettling procurement fraud case has recently come to light within Intel Israel's operations. Every criminal investigation seeks to uncover means, motive, and opportunity, and this case checks all three boxes, with implications that go far beyond one compa...
Prioritizing Dispute Prevention Over Problem Solving 19.06.2025 21:17
After spending years reviewing business books, Kelly Barner knows how to recognize authors who truly move the needle–and Kate Vitasek is one of them. Her latest work, Preventing the Dispute Before It Begins: Proven Mechanisms for Fostering Better Business Relationships, co-authored with James Groton, Ellen Waldman, and Allen Waxman, takes on a surprisingly neglected topic: dispute prevention. Whil...
High Velocity Lessons on Lobbying and Trade W/ Samir Kapadia 12.06.2025 40:31
"In this climate of being a trade professional in Washington, expect to be in an Uber for about half of the day and then the other half of it sitting in rooms making cases of why people either should be not paying tariffs or how other people should be paying tariffs." - Samir Kapadia, Managing Principal at Vogel Group and Founder and CEO at India Index Supply chain professionals have always had to...
Tariffs as a Girder for Domestic Fabricated Steel W/ Stephen Capone and Hollie Noveletsky 05.06.2025 33:09
"We need to be able to tolerate this uncertainty and the fluctuations that we're undergoing right now and keep our eye on the long term goal of strengthening American manufacturing." -Hollie Noveletsky, Owner and CEO of Novel Iron Works While many consumers and business owners feel uneasy about the Trump Administration's use of tariffs, there is at least one group that views them as essential: ste...
Semiconductor CHIPS, Checks, and Challenges 29.05.2025 24:34
"Even though the world's advanced economies are largely considered post-industrial, chipmaking is an area where domestic manufacturing is now being treated as a high priority for economic and national security reasons." Jon Martin, Writing for the 'More than Moore' substack The CHIPS and Science Act, which took effect in August of 2022, is an ambitious Federal program that will inject $52.7 Billio...
How U.S. Tariffs Are Reshaping Global Freight W/ Judah Levine 22.05.2025 29:06
Global supply chain leaders and consumers alike have watched for months as the U.S. tariff rollercoaster starts and stops, impacting imported goods. While these policy changes are expected to directly impact supply chains, what about their impact on the cost and availability of freight? As companies hold their breath and wait to see if and/or when their imports will be subjected to tariffs, many h...
Supply Chains & Second Chances: Human Trafficking Aftercare 15.05.2025 27:59
In recent years, a lot of work has been done to raise awareness about the massive problem of human trafficking as well as to start to attack that problem. In this week's episode of Art of Supply, Kelly Barner interviews two women engaged in an important part of that fight through an organization called Gift of Freedom: Sharon Siar and Nicole Glenn. Sharon Siar is the Founder and President Gift of...
Building a U.S. Solar Supply Chain 08.05.2025 15:36
"Between 2008 and 2013, China's fledgling solar-electric panel industry dropped world prices by 80 percent, a stunning achievement in a fiercely competitive high-tech market." - John Fialka, Scientific American In March, Corning, Suniva, and Heliene announced a partnership that will allow them to build a U.S. supply chain for solar panels, from polysilicon to wafers to cells to panels. In a global...
Manufacturing Labor Market Insights in an Uncertain World 01.05.2025 21:41
Economic commentators often look at consumer spending as a barometer for confidence and outlook - how good or bad financially do individuals and families think the broader economy is, and how profitable it will be for them? The same can perhaps be said for companies and hiring managers. How confident are they that they will be able to keep people employed in uncertain times, and what skills are th...
Beef with the Big 4: McDonald's vs. the Meat Monopoly 24.04.2025 17:48
In October of 2024, McDonald's sued four of the world's largest meat producers – Tyson, JBS, Cargill, and National Beef Packing – for allegedly conspiring to inflate the price of beef by creating artificial scarcity in the market. This is not the first time McDonald's has sued these meat producers, and it is not the first time these meat producers have been sued. Over 200 cases have been brought b...
In Defense of Lean Thinking W/ Thomas Goldsby 17.04.2025 37:02
Everything runs in trends, supply chains included. What was once considered a critical strategy can be cancelled in a heartbeat if conditions change - only to be rediscovered and reapplied to great advantage a couple of years later. In this week's Art of Supply interview, Kelly Barner welcomes back Professor Thomas Goldsby. Tom is the Dee and Jimmy Haslam Chair of Logistics at the Haslam College o...
Scope 3 Showdown: Green Century v. Ford 10.04.2025 21:34
On May 8th, at Ford Motor Company's annual shareholder meeting, they will face a proposal focused on how they report their efforts to reduce greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions on their way to being carbon neutral by 2050. The proposal was made by Green Century Capital Management, a sustainability-focused activist fund that regularly challenges recognizable companies about their emissions reduction eff...
LTL Shakeup: Will Amazon join the fray? 03.04.2025 22:49
A few weeks ago, rumors started to swirl that Amazon might be standing up their own for-hire less-than-truckload (LTL) operation to compete with the likes of FedEx Freight, Old Dominion, XPO, and Saia. So what are these rumors based on, and how likely are they to be true? More importantly, what would such a move mean for other national LTL carriers? In this episode of Art of Supply, Kelly Barners...
Who owns the Panama Canal? 27.03.2025 15:30
The Panama Canal is a 51 mile long waterway that allows ships to cut about 8,000 miles off of a trip from New York to San Francisco around the route around Cape Horn. The country of Panama owns the canal, which is operated by the Panama Canal Authority, an agency of the Panamanian government, but who owns the ports located on either side of the canal? Until now, it has been CK Hutchison, a Hong Ko...
Decoding the DOGE Savings Calculator 20.03.2025 23:58
The Department of Government Efficiency, better known as DOGE, was created by executive order on President Trump's first day back in office. It immediately became one of the most controversial parts of the administration's first couple of months. Love it or hate it, if you work in procurement, you have to watch what DOGE is doing. And if you can't bring yourself to review their objectives, strateg...
Investing in People-powered Safety in Food Manufacturing W/ Nathan Walts 13.03.2025 30:10
"Everyone at the plant has a duty to protect the products that we're sending out to the customer. Ultimately, you really have to think about it as sort of a 'circle of life.' What's my responsibility with what I'm doing in this part of the process, and what's going to happen when this product reaches the consumer?" - Nathan Walts, CEO, WorkForge The food supply chain is uniquely complex and critic...
East and Gulf Coast Port Strike – Part 2 06.03.2025 19:56
Back in October, when the East and Gulf coast port strike ended after 3 days, we knew there would be a part 2. Short though it was, the strike is estimated to have cost the U.S. economy $3.8 - 5 Billion per day, but that wasn't seen as the greatest 'cost' at the time. With the Presidential campaign in full swing, all eyes were on the impact it might have on the candidates' relative popularity. Now...
A Narrow Path Towards Noninflationary Tariffs 27.02.2025 26:08
Since President Trump took office on January 20th, speculation about tariffs has been omnipresent in supply chain planning conversations. But we do have a guide to the administration's philosophy, A User's Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System, written by Stephen Miran and published by Hudson Bay Capital in November of 2024. Miran is Trump's pick to lead his Council of Economic Advisers...
Lessons in Listening from Joe Rogan and Charlamagne tha God 20.02.2025 24:53
"I talk to people and I record it. That's it." - Joe Rogan People often say that we all need to learn to communicate better, and that is true. But we need to invest more effort on the listening side than the talking side. Joe Rogan and Charlamagne tha God are standout media personalities and cultural icons. They are also fantastic listeners and exceptional conversationalists. Their ability to pre...
Who will decide the future of EV trucking? 13.02.2025 44:38
Who will decide when EV trucking goes from being an option available to anyone to an enforceable mandate that everyone must comply with? That question is at the heart of this week's interview. Kelly Barner had the opportunity to speak with Nebraska Attorney General Michael Hilgers. His state is on the front lines of a legal effort to ensure that if regulations end up driving the EV transition, th...
Dylan v. Goliath: The Freight Essentials RICO Case 06.02.2025 58:38
" If anyone thinks that they know it all, they're in the wrong place ." - Dylan Admire The series of relationships that make the freight industry work is like a supply chain in and of itself. Under the freight agent model, agents help shippers find capacity through brokers who hold carrier contracts, facilitate financing and payments, and carry the MC number under which the agent operates. When th...
Misfortune on 34th Street: Accounting Issues at Macy's 30.01.2025 21:35
"It is almost always the cover-up rather than the event that causes trouble." - Tennessee Senator Howard Baker, in reference to the Watergate scandal Whether you shop at Macy's or not, you surely know the brand. In 2023, Macy's was the leading department store in the United States by revenue, with sales of approximately $23 Billion. On November 25, 2024, Macy's delayed an earnings announcement p...
Nebraska v. California: The EV Trucking Transition 23.01.2025 18:32
"Now an unelected group of powerful actors has opened a three-front effort to transform the nation's logistics fleet from diesel-powered to electric-powered at a breakneck pace. This terrible policy is being crafted almost entirely out of public view. Nebraska is fighting back." - Mike Hilgers , Nebraska Attorney General (WSJ Op Ed, Jan 17 2025) If you expected the transition from diesel-powered t...
The Dawn of a New Era in U.S. Trade Policy 16.01.2025 40:09
"India is putting their money where their mouth is. If they're able to execute upon a free trade agreement or a pseudo free trade agreement...then that would create the fluidity to buoy all of those ships in that harbor." - Samir Kapadia - Managing Principal at Vogel Group and Founder and CEO at India Index Regardless of the topic, 2024 was filled with 'what if' conversations. We were waiting to f...
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