Antoinette Lee & Shanti Mayers
Around The Way Curls
Rooted in friendship, humor, and self-actualization, Shanti and Antoinette are a differing, but dynamic duo who explore both the profound and the profane because #DualityIsAThing.
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Episodes
Ep 447. Why Is The Narrative That Motherhood Is A Noose? 17.07.2025 57:57
In this episode, we discuss the duality of motherhood as both a gift and a burden, and the societal expectations placed on women regarding their roles as mothers and professionals. We discuss the challenges of balancing personal identity, career aspirations, and the realities of motherhood, while also addressing the myth of 'having it all' in a capitalist society. The dialogue highlights the need...
Ep 446. Essence-less Fest, Brad Pitt or Denzel, Mamdani, an African American? 14.07.2025 1:21:59
In this episode, Shanti recaps taking her daughter to her first arena concert, while Antoinette saw the F1 movie and nearly lost her mind. For politics, we discuss the Texas floods, climate change, and the need for political accountability, as well as Mamdani's recent "scandal" surrounding his identity. For pop culture, we discuss the challenges faced by Essence Festival this year, highlighting th...
Ep 445. My Dad’s My Hero. He’s Also an Alcoholic ft. Jay Henry 10.07.2025 1:37:01
*Trigger Warning* This episode discusses suicidal thoughts and alcoholism This week, Antoinette and Shanti start with some light-hearted pleasantries and respond to some comedic listener voicemails. We are then joined by Antoinette's father, Jay Henry. Mr. Henry's full humanity is on display as he shares his experience as both an intentionally present father and recovering alcoholic. Antoinette an...
Ep 444. The “Big Beautiful Bill”, Diddy Verdict & Celeb Reactions 07.07.2025 1:45:27
In this week's episode, Shanti hosts visiting family while Antoinette may be getting something off her chest (literally). For politics, we react to the ugliness of the "Big Beautiful Bill" as well as Elon Musk's villainous promise to politicians. For pop culture, Antoinette goes in on the Diddy verdict, we discuss Beyonce's recent scare, and laugh at Drake's abs. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (2...
Ep 443. A Problematic Crash Out 03.07.2025 1:13:49
In this episode, we follow no script. We randomly discuss topics that range from which dog breeds are Black, who our celebrity "hear me outs" are, Monica and Brandy's coming tour, and our friend group's real feelings about Shanti's singing finally emerge. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive video...
Ep 442. Mamdani, Iran, Diddy, B Simone & Beyonce in Paris 30.06.2025 1:41:40
In this episode, Shanti lamps during her luteal phase while Antoinette has an epiphany. For politics, Antoinette celebrates the New York primary win of Zohran Mamdani and the recent Supreme Court ruling to limit its own power against undermining presidential executive decisions. For pop culture, we catch up on the Diddy case and it's recent dropping of charges, we discuss B. Simone's recent podcas...
Ep 441. Are Our Beliefs Sabotaging Our Health? 26.06.2025 1:05:01
For this episode, Shanti shares how affected she was by the preventable passing of Ananda Lewis. Together, we explore how our beliefs about healthcare may influence our treatment decisions, and whether a healthy dose of caution is warranted in today's modern medicine as Black women. What is a healthy balance of rejecting and accepting treatment in this day and age? Join us... Contact Us: Hotline:...
Ep 440. Tyler & Trump: The Last Straw 23.06.2025 2:00:24
In this episode, Shanti recovers from rained out expectations while Antoinette returns from vacation as a reigning Queen of Spades. For politics, Antoinette shares her research on the escalating tensions between Iran and Israel, particularly focusing on the implications of nuclear weapons and international relations. For pop culture, we discuss Tyler Perry's film 'Straw', and the broader implicati...
Ep 439. Nene & TS Madison: Realizing I’m Not an Ally 19.06.2025 1:46:25
In this episode, Shanti and Antoinette lament the loss of lightning bugs. After listening to caller voicemails, we catch up on pop culture! We discuss the recent interview between T.S. Madison and Nene Leakes. Together, we explore what it means to be a true ally to the transgender community, while acknowledging the areas in which we have more work to do personally as we reflect on our own biases....
Ep 438. Hi, Black Immigrants Exist. Hope That Helps! 16.06.2025 1:26:28
In this episode, Shanti discusses Jolie's graduation and her beginning busy season, while Antoinette pushes through the challenges of moving and her daily workload. Heads up! This is a full politics-as-usual episode! Together, we discuss the recent ICE raids in Los Angeles, the community's response, and the political implications of the National Guard's deployment. We highlight the growing disconn...
Reprise. A Black Woman’s Guide to Rest: Meditations w/ Kickin It With Ki 12.06.2025 1:14:34
For this episode, we keep our updates very brief as we save time to be in conversation with the brilliant Ki of "Kickin It with Ki". In this conversation, we explore the themes of mindfulness, community wellness, and the importance of rest, particularly for Black women. We discuss the challenges of managing emotions and grief in a politically charged environment. Ki offers practical steps for lett...
Reprise. Finding Relationship Ready Partner ft. Dating Coach Anwar 10.06.2025 1:09:53
In this conversation, Dating Coach Anwar discusses the challenges faced by Black and Brown women in dating and relationships. He emphasizes the importance of vulnerability and setting boundaries then addresses the issue of self-sabotage. Anwar also explores the concept of masculine and feminine energy and how it impacts relationships. He provides insights into when someone is ready to date and off...
Reprise Ep 357. Letting Go & Living a Creative Life ft. Franchesca Ramsey 05.06.2025 1:19:03
Antoinette is joined by renaissance creative, Franchesca Ramsey. Our convo covers a wide range of topics, including self-discovery, societal critique, and political commentary. Franchesca details the many pivots she's made in her career & personal life while providing insight into how she seamlessly & successfully incorporates her many talents into her brand. To end, Franchesca generously...
Reprise: Ep 400. An Around The Way Crash Out 02.06.2025 1:04:30
We are celebrating 400 episodes! With the help of our listeners, we let loose with a completely unstructured, free-flowing episode. Together, we answer listener questions and talk about any and everything such as circumcision, The Star Spangled Banner, biblical prophesies, why female orgasms are better than males, the growth of our podcast, and our personal predictions for 2025. Join us for an Aro...
Ep 437. Chicken Alfredo, Forever Recap + The Light Skin Spectrum Crash Out 29.05.2025 1:23:55
It's another monthly crash out, it's just us and no script. Together, we discuss how Alfredo is ravishing the Black community, our reviews of Forever on Netflix, Antoinette being "Almond-y", Shanti's coming hair extensions and how Shanti's daughter may be more mature than her mom. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroun...
Ep 436. Incubating Babies, RGIII's Milk Obsession, + Fake Journalists 26.05.2025 1:56:24
In this episode, Shanti prepares for a busy season with The Sable Collective, while Antoinette has the most biracial weekend ever. For politics, we focus on the complexities of political decisions and their effect on healthcare, particularly regarding a case in Georgia involving a brain-dead pregnant woman. For pop culture, we talk about the sensationalism of "fake journalism" in the Diddy case, a...
Ep 435. So Good, I Might Self Sabotage. 22.05.2025 56:46
In this episode, Shanti shares her recent relationship experience and the unconscious patterns of self-sabotage that can arise when things feel too good to be true. Together, we discuss the fear of embracing goodness in life and how self-worth is the foundation for not only inviting but also accepting happiness into one's life. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurl...
Ep 434. Tory, Draymond, DDG, & Diddy 19.05.2025 1:43:24
In this episode, Shanti gives Kendrick Lamar his props while Antoinette manages micro-aggressions. Together, we discuss the new eligibility requirements for Medicaid and SNAP and how these changes will affect millions. For pop culture, Shanti becomes a new Draymond Green fan, and we share our thoughts on the recent Diddy trial as Cassie takes the stand. Do we think Diddy will walk free? Join us......
Ep 433. I Want Men To Lead. Am I Toxic? 15.05.2025 1:27:59
In this episode, we are inspired by the recent conversation between podcaster Shannon Boodram and actress Cree Summer. Together, we dissect the dynamics of leadership in partnerships, the balance of masculine and feminine energies, and the challenges of relinquishing control in a relationship that lacks the safety to do so and how this lack of safety affects our notions of generosity, affection an...
Ep 432. Joe Budden Pod Gets Woke + Met Gala Dandy Dud? 12.05.2025 2:22:53
In this episode, Shanti reflects on a successful Mother's Day photo shoot while Antoinette enjoys a new, lovely haircut. For politics, we keep it brief and discuss the threat to housing policies posed by Trump's recent federal cuts. We discuss the Met Gala and share our thoughts on the overall theme of Black Dandyism. Do we think folks embodied it? In the end, we discuss the scholar, Mark Lamont H...
Ep 431. Harnessing Sexual Energy for Creative Manifestation ft. Sharifa 08.05.2025 1:17:41
In this conversation, we speak with Sharifa from Agenos to explore the deep connections between sexuality and spirituality, emphasizing the power of the erotic as a source of empowerment. We discuss the societal taboos surrounding sex, the importance of self-exploration, and how sexual energy can be harnessed for creative manifestation. We explore the impact of past experiences on sexual expressio...
Ep 430. Gorilla vs. Man, Saquon, Mahomes, Martial Law + Cowboy Carter 05.05.2025 1:45:54
In this episode, Antoinette considers a break from social media while Shanti reflects on the last virtual meeting with the Artist Way Patreon group. For politics, we discuss the first 100 days with Trump in office, and his recent executive orders supporting martial law. For pop culture, we discuss Saquon Barkley's visit to the White House and question the responsibilities of athletes in political...
Ep 429. "Sinners" Deep Dive (Spoiler Alert!) 01.05.2025 1:34:38
It's the moment you've all been waiting for! We share our reactions to the new film, "Sinners"! We dive into Ryan Coogler's direction, the movie's casting, character analysis, story pacing and storytelling. We discuss our thoughts about the movie's representation of allyship, cultural appropriation, brotherly love, capitalism and freedom. Is this movie 10/10? Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215)...
Ep 428. Women Must Have Babies, Shannon’s Suspect, Kanye’s Confession, JD & Pope 28.04.2025 1:36:36
In this episode, Shanti realizes she has developed a new adult fear, while Antoinette catches up on her shows and shares an unpopular opinion. For politics, we discuss the possible murder of the Pope, the continued complications of the nation's student loan crisis and Trump wanting more women to have babies as the world's population declines. For pop culture, we discuss Shannon Sharpe's recent all...
Ep 427. Another Crash Out On Coogler, Sperm, Lizzo + Astrology 24.04.2025 1:15:55
In this episode, we flow freely, no outline! It is a free form, anything goes kind of episode, aka The Crash Out... We talk astrology, sperm science, Lizzo, Ryan Coogler, Lil Wayne's comments on future Super Bowls, and how much can change in a year. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive...
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