Antoinette Lee & Shanti Mayers

Around The Way Curls

Society EN ↓ 548 episodes

Rooted in friendship, humor, and self-actualization, Shanti and Antoinette are a differing, but dynamic duo who explore both the profound and the profane because #DualityIsAThing.

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Antoinette Lee & Shanti Mayers

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Society

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Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

Ep 244. Questionnaire to Oneself ft Naana 09.03.2023

For this week's episode, we are joined again by the lovely Naana of "Work Bae" Podcast. Together we jump right into our main topic inspired by Audre Lorde's "Questionnaire to Oneself". For 3 days, Naana and Shanti wrote responses in their journals to the prompts. Listen as they share what came up for each of them. Feel free to begin your own journaling process with these prompts below: What are th...

Ep 243. Sweet Baby Leodis Ft. Naana 06.03.2023

In this week's episode, we are joined by Naana of the "Work Bae" podcast while Antoinette takes a week away. Shanti shares her recent unpopular opinions about gender and Lizzo and together we discuss Keke Palmer's new bundle of joy, Modern Day Minstrel shows, and Dilbert's racist cartoon creator. Join us... Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Ho...

Ep 242. Time Isn't Real But We're Old 02.03.2023

In this episode, Shanti travels back in time while Antoinette shares anxiety over an upcoming photoshoot. After a couple of listener voicemails, we keep it light this week as we discuss all the things we are too damn old for now that we have reached our mid-thirties. Join us Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: arou...

Ep 241. Does Bashir Pump Gas? 27.02.2023

In this week's episode, we both are in our feelings. Is it because of Pisces season or is it because we need therapy? Shanti shares updates about school while Antoinette shares her experience at The Read's 10th Anniversary Live Show. Together, we talk about real-life zombies in Philly, Black Excellence in STEM, and global burnout amongst parents and end with our thoughts on questioning gender norm...

Ep 240. A Tale of Two Khadijahs 23.02.2023

In this week's episode, we begin with music. Shanti claims her actual soulmate is her Spotify "Discover Weekly" playlist while Antoinette considers a trip to London to see Cleo Sol this spring. For our main topic, we listen to voicemails. As usual, our callers share their insights, questions, and wise corrections with the community. We end with two very different responses from women both named Kh...

Ep 239. Rihanna, Idris, Ageism & Aliens 20.02.2023

In this week's episode, Shanti deepens her understanding of what creating a life she loves means by correcting her daily work practices. Antoinette took another step towards her aliveness by sharing her voice with a friend which led to a greater leap of courage. Together, we talk about The Super Bowl, Rihanna'a performance, if are being bamboozled by balloons, and Idris's recent declaration about...

Ep 238. Eroticism Should Be Part of Your Self Care Plan 16.02.2023

This week we deep dive into the erotic with help from the GAWD Esther Perel. Her recent article, Why Eroticism Should Be Part of your Self-Care Plan, helps us define eroticism & guides us on to access & practice it. We then question how we have limited our idea of eroticism & only attached it to sex. In our daily lives, how often do we really prioritize + will the practice of the fulle...

Ep 237. Beyonce, Bell Hooks & State of the Union 13.02.2023

In this week's episode, Shanti explores her city and finds enjoyment in working at a cafe that plays experimental jazz loudly, while Antoinette grounds herself in the wise words of bell hooks' All about Love for Valentine's Day. Together, we address recent assumptions and critiques made by listeners about our relationship. We discuss the Grammys, Beyonce's wins and losses, China's spy balloon, and...

Ep 236. I’d Rather be Hurt By The Truth 09.02.2023

In this week's episode, Shanti buys herself tickets to a play in New York for another solo date as Antoinette also considers dating herself due to the poor selection of men out here who respond with green texts, and have poor dating etiquette. For our main topic, we dive into the taboo. What happens when you are in love with a person who you can't have? Do we indulge in our pleasure and get more e...

Ep 235. 4,094 Ancestors Before You 06.02.2023

This week, Shanti fully embraces her nickname, Shalom Shanti by becoming a yogi & expresses gratitude to a listener for her help in restoring The Sable Collective's IG. Antoinette gushes over the Eagles going to the Superbowl and shares some of the many lessons she is learning from working more closely with her girl, Mandii B. Together, they ring in Black History Month right by examining the S...

Ep 234. You’re Projecting On To Me & That’s F'd Up 02.02.2023

In this week's episode, Shanti is inspired by Toni Morrison and wants to create "a place that feels like it is all hers" as she navigates nurturing her inner world and cultivating new hobbies. Antoinette leans into daily stretching and shares her attempt at a homemade ice bath that didn't go as planned. Together, we talk about projection after a recent conflict with one another. What is projection...

Ep 233. No Good News 30.01.2023

*Note* This episode was recorded before the video release of Tyre Nichol's' brutal murder at the hands of Memphis police. In this week's episode, Shanti manages the emotional and collateral damage of having her business' Instagram account stolen from her while Antoinette celebrates the release of her newest podcast "Can't Afford Therapy". Together, we agree that Bob Ross was good at stroking more...

Ep 232: Are Rewards Ruining Us? 26.01.2023

In this week's episode, Shanti stands by her mac and cheese and finds joy in headphones and Homegoods while Antoinette shares her shock at Black women getting facial cosmetic surgery. Together, we listen to callers' very different responses to the same episode about marriage and longevity. For our main topic, Antoinette finds that only a white man, Dr. Andrew Huberman holds the keys to her motivat...

Can't Afford Therapy: New Podcast Alert! 25.01.2023

Antoinette has a new podcast! She's been talking about the new project she has diligently been working on and it's finally here. Be sure to head over to the Can't Afford Therapy Podcast and check out the first two episodes today! Be a fly on the wall as Josh "Fazefunk," Antoinette, and SaVon hold conversations about mindfulness, compassion, healing, and more. While being vulnerable and allowing ea...

Ep 231: Maybe I’ll Do Adderall Tomorrow 23.01.2023

In episode 231, Shanti is excited to be back in school but frustrated by the two ghosts haunting her house while Antoinette struggles to tell friends she isn't paying for the 4 rounds of drinks when she got a regular chicken entree. Together they discuss the Seattle school district suing social media leaders Meta, Google, Snapchat + Tiktok, Joseph Robinette Biden's classified document scandal, Goe...

Ep 230. Juggling Multiple Men & Feelings 19.01.2023

In episode 230, Shanti is committed to dating herself while Antoinette examines the epigenetics of her "middle-class mindset". We then get into some passionate voicemails regarding the word. "Sable", Meghan Markle's identity, Black women's labor, and a unique form of polyamory. Finally, we continue to indulge in hot topics for the week discussing The Equal Act failing in the Senate, Mielle Organic...

Ep 229. A White Woman Reads Me To Sleep 16.01.2023

Happy MLK DAY! We return to the New Year with updates about Shanti going back to school while Antoinette recovers from a disappointing new year & haircut. Together, we share hot new music, TV shows, and Antoinette's newest ritual of having white women read to her at night. Of course, we catch up on politics & Antoinette goes IN on the GOP/Speaker of the House chaos while finally getting in...

Ep 228. That's All Folks 22.12.2022

In the final episode of 2022, the ladies reflect on 2022 and reveal some interesting plans for 2023. May the new year be filled with more possibility, creativity, and play. Live urgently. - Ant & Shanti Do you have a question or comment you'd like to share with us? Call in! Leave a message! Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls fo...

Ep 227. Free Speech, Polyamory, Identity: Who Makes the Rules? 19.12.2022

In this week's episode, we get lost in the quicksand of nuance. We consider the absurdity of free speech laws being debated in U.S. politics, and question if Caresha and Diddy are in polyamory heaven or hell? After being tempted to judge Meghan Markle's recent documentary, we journey together to find empathy around Meghan's Black identity (or lack thereof). We also both took an edible during this...

Ep 226. Is Jonathan Majors Tearing Us Apart? 15.12.2022

In this week's episode, we fight! In our updates, we get into it over our delusions around Jonathan Majors!! For our main topic, we dive into the most recent NPR interview with Michelle Obama where she discusses the fallacy of 50/50 in a marriage. Can we tolerate years of discomfort if we trust that the other partner will do it for us? Is marriage a dedication to the long game with guaranteed frui...

Ep 225. This Is A Civil Rights Issue 12.12.2022

In this episode, the girls recap their weekend together in Brooklyn. Antoinette, frustrated by Dr. Umar, questions civil rights activism and activists' inability to recognize LGBTQIA+ rights and civil rights while Shanti expressed relief that Hershel Walker lost the runoff election in Georgia. Together, the girls discuss Bali making premarital sex illegal, Brittney Griner being back home, the Supr...

Ep 224. What is This We Are Performing? 08.12.2022

In this week's episode, we are giving range! We begin with Shanti's birthday plans and Antoinette battling fruit flies and move into a caller giving us a detailed tutorial on how to ride like a professional athlete. We then move into robocops, Jerry Jones's racist history, and bring it full circle by returning to how enjoying anal pleasures has nothing to do with sexual preference. Join us... Do y...

Ep 223. Did an Edible Change My Life? 05.12.2022

In this episode, Shanti discusses the wonderful world of micro-dosing (shoutout to @Kimbology) while Antoinette explores the idea of having a sponsor. Together, the ladies discuss Spotify-wrapped reveals, World Cup controversies, the Defense for Marriage Act shortcomings, the delusion of Jennifer Lyn Lopez Affleck, and how men will embarrass you unprovoked. Lastly, Antoinette may or may not have h...

Ep 222. She Did That ft. Renae Bluitt 01.12.2022

Today, we sit down with special guest Renae Bluitt and discuss her unique journey as an entrepreneur. Renae takes us from her beginnings as a blog content creator to producing her film, "She Did That" which landed a spot on Netflix. Rich with nuggets of inspiration and insight, this is an important episode for anyone beginning their own entrepreneurial start. Follow Renae: Website: https://www.ren...

Ep 221. Time: The Most Valuable Currency ft. Black 28.11.2022

In this episode, Shanti is away and Antoinette is joined by one of her nearest and dearest friends...photographer, musician, multimedia artist extraordinaire, and overall brilliant being "Black" aka @thnwblk_ on IG. Together, they weigh in on a few interesting listener calls (of which both have gripes to pick with Antoinette) and discuss the concept of time. How do we utilize it? What is its value...

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