George Smith, Tom Hall
Another Fine Mezz
A podcast about the global securitization markets from GlobalCapital
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George Smith, Tom Hall
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
CLO Series: Michael Herzig, First Eagle Alternative Credit 22.05.2024 44:12
This week on Another Fine Mezz, securitization editor Tom Lemmon gave usual podcasters George Smith and Victoria Thiele a well-earned rest. That was to make way for Michael Herzig, senior managing director and head of business development at First Eagle Alternative Credit in the first episode of GlobalCapital's CLO series. The US CLO market is back firing again with some now even contemplatin...
European CMBS, where the 'M' stands for 'data centre' 13.05.2024 13:57
This week on Another Fine Mezz, the spectre of challenging diaries due to time difference meant usual host and securitization editor Tom Lemmon had to miss out. However, European reporters George Smith and Victoria Thiele went on a whirlwind tour of securitization in super quick time. Although it seems some in the market may need to go back to school because there's a CMBS comprised solely o...
Regs can only get better 07.05.2024 30:32
The UK had a lot going on politically with its local and mayoral elections last week, which perhaps explains why the future of UK securitization regulation wasn't on the front page of the nationals. However, for GlobalCapital's team of securitization podcasting hacks on Another Fine Mezz, it certainly was. European securitization reporter, George Smith discussed what changes have been fi...
All you can ETF and Santander's big beautiful ABS 29.04.2024 28:33
It was another week of 100% attendance from the Another Fine Mezz team, but such was the quality of stories this week, there was a fair bit of bickering over who got to go first. For the starter, European Securitization reporter, George Smith had Santander's mammoth German consumer ABS to discuss, where investors chose to fill up on mezz. Then, the main course was provided by CLO reporter,...
Deals, deals and downgrades 22.04.2024 25:07
A full house again on Another Fine Mezz this week where CLO reporter Victoria Thiele was practically bouncing off the walls with three Euro CLOs to report on. However, host Tom Lemmon didn't quite burst her bubble as much as put into context how small it is with an update on the flood of primary market supply in US CLOs. The question across the Atlantic is whether spreads can tighten with so...
Belmont Green gets its flowers 15.04.2024 29:45
This week on Another Fine Mezz, the full podcasting trio was on hand to digest yet another hectic week for European Securitization. First up, ABS reporter, George Smith - with his wonderful new microphone - explained why Belmont Green's buy-to-let RMBS deal took the plaudits amongst a packed field, and even got the GlobalCapital cartoon as reward for printing just 40bp wide of UK prime RMBS....
My kingdom for a second lien 09.04.2024 17:33
In an admirable effort to bring securitization to the people, George sat down on a Monday morning straight out of a holiday, beard still wild and unkempt, to discuss the latest movements in the ABS and CLO market with Victoria. Unusual activity in the second lien UK RMBS market kept the GlobalCapital reporters busy last week. George dug into the drivers of growth in this niche sector. For listener...
When Altice said and done 02.04.2024 24:01
◆ Don't sweat the downgrade ◆ ABS rush ahead ◆ Another Fine Member for the team Three became four this week on everyone's favourite securitization podcast. GlobalCapital 's newest reporter Diana Bravo joined the team from New York to say hello and discuss an i nteresting development in the US solar ABS market . Rating agencies downgraded Altice in the wake of a fateful investor ca...
If I could turn back time (I'd do more credit work) 26.03.2024 19:04
Victoria Thiele took on hosting duties for this week's episode of Another Fine Mezz with usual host, Tom Lemmon, off playing golf somewhere. With so many ABS deals in the market, Victoria also had to ease the load on George Smith earlier in the week. But Victoria and George weren't the only ones in need of a little extra time. European ABS investors were so stretched that the question...
The ABS show must go on 18.03.2024 25:18
This week's episode of Another Fine Mezz had a certain morning after the night before feel, with Tom Lemmon and Victoria Thiele still a bit fragile from their midweek fun. Fortunately, George Smith had youth on his side to lend a steadier hand. The trio reflected on a bustling (and boozy!) night at GlobalCapital's 2024 European Securitization Awards. While the event was a great success,...
Recovering from Sin City 04.03.2024 22:27
This week on Another Fine Mezz, it was a case one step forward and two back as host Tom Lemmon returned only to find CLO reporter, Victoria Thiele away from her desk and enjoying the beauty of South Korea. With Tom only just back in one piece after SFVegas 2024, there was much to discuss. From spying who's visiting from their European bases, to paying homage to the superior knowledge residin...
Good job(s) all around 29.02.2024 37:05
As much the three hosts of Another Fine Mezz love talking about deals, this episode is dedicated to the people who make them happen. At the start of a new year, some of our listeners may be thinking about the next steps in their careers, while others are looking to grow their teams. We are very pleased that Edward James, structured finance recruiter and founder of RCQ Associates, agreed to sit dow...
Special Episode: SFA’s Michael Bright 26.02.2024 30:33
With SFVegas just hours away, Tom Lemmon sat down with Michael Bright, CEO of the Structured Finance Association (SFA) to hear how preparations for the huge annual gathering was going. Around 9,000 attendees expected this year, which means Bright and the team at the SFA are constantly looking improve the offering at the Aria Hotel to keep the securitization market coming back. That included dealin...
Special Episode: Gibson Dunn's Madalyn Miller 19.02.2024 46:18
On Another Fine Mezz this week, European reporters George Smith and Victoria Thiele were given a little break while Tom Lemmon gears up for the SF Vegas 2024 conference next week. This episode is the second in the US Securitization mini-series where market participants across the sector discuss their area of expertise, but also how they got there and what it’s really like to do day in day out. For...
Good morning CLOs, all quiet on the ABS front 13.02.2024 20:50
Victoria Thiele and George Smith were left to their own devices as Tom Lemmon had the audacity to take a week off, although he still managed to launch a mini series that will supplement the regular Another Fine Mezz episodes in the coming weeks. ABS issuance seemed to be taking a breather after the January rush, but that only gave George the time to dive into a particularly juicy story (and to co...
Special Episode: Dv01's Vadim Verkhoglyad 08.02.2024 50:00
◆ No need to panic for consumer ABS ◆ Trusting your gut with career opportunities ◆ From the USSR to structured finance This week’s episode of Another Fine Mezz with the full team may have come and gone but this bonus episode, is the first in a mini-series where global securitization editor Tom Lemmon, talks to market participants from across US Securitization. Tom and his guests will focus not on...
Volkswagen's green crash 05.02.2024 19:29
◆ VW misses ESG deadline ◆ Good times for ABS ◆ CLO triple-A funds fear fall from power All three podcasters were reunited once again after a good week all around. While Tom tried the best burger in NYC (second best, everyone knows Corner Bistro is the best - Ed) and Victoria had reason to feel famous, George held the Big Car to account. Volkswagen broke its promise to provide loan level emissi...
Push it to the (spread) limit 29.01.2024 18:36
This week's episode of Another Fine Mezz was a tale of determination, of squeezing every last drop you have left. Firstly, the clouds look to be finally clearing for UK buy-to-let (BTL) lenders, leading OneSavings Bank subsidiary Charter Court to drive its latest UK BTL RMBS tighter. Then in European CLOs, managers continued to take advantage of strong sentiment as they crunched spreads tig...
No ECB, no problem 22.01.2024 18:35
Another week, another episode of Another Fine Mezz with a man down as Tom Lemmon faced yet more roadblocks on his path to being a complete US employee. Back in London, Victoria Thiele stood in as host to proudly proclaim herself as a dark horse for securitization podcast host of the year. As the newest jet-setter in the podcasting trio, George Smith reported back from a hectic week where he mode...
Of crawlers and sprinters 15.01.2024 22:07
◆ Europeans want UK RMBS ◆ ESMA perplexes investors ◆ CLO amortisation: a vanishing act Just two weeks into the year and Another Fine Mezz is one man down. The cold, the jet lag and a US bank holiday conspired to take Tom Lemmon out; leaving Victoria Thiele and George Smith to discuss the latest in European securitization between themselves. With deals galore in the UK RMBS market, it was a near...
Back in fashion: Permms and moustaches 08.01.2024 25:05
With 2024 upon us, the Another Fine Mezz team are calling this week's episode the first of season 2. All three of Tom Lemmon, Victoria Thiele and George Smith were recording this week, while George was particularly needed after a rapid start to the new year in UK prime RMBS. Lloyds' Permanent deal also got a rather snazzy cartoon for George to brag about. However, Victoria may feel tha...
EU ABS dreams of a green Christmas 18.12.2023 13:36
In the last episode before Christmas, George Smith and Victoria Thiele discuss why Europe’s ESG securitization issuers are still feeling upbeat despite the lack of a clear ‘greenium’. Tom Lemmon was off this week, hopefully brushing up on his golf skills, after George Smith’s exploits at the GlobalCapital Christmas party put his status as Another Fine Mezz’s resident putting expert into doubt. Vic...
The robots are coming for ABS jobs 12.12.2023 20:39
This week's episode of Another Fine Mezz went all Sci-Fi thanks to reporters George Smith and Victoria Thiele. Intrigued by some survey data on the use of tools like ChatGPT, the question was whether artificial intelligence could start becoming more widely used in securitization and CLOs. It's unclear exactly how it'll be used and whether avid listeners to the podcast should be fea...
CLO performance, ABS outlooks... and chicken wings 04.12.2023 23:11
Host Tom Lemmon retuned for this week's episode of Another Fine Mezz, while reporters Victoria Thiele and George Smith were well-recovered from their midweek escapades with some unnamed contacts. It seems European CLO investors are feeling pretty happy with themselves after a successful year where the asset class outperformed a number of competitors. It's outlook season and so George w...
To C or not to C 27.11.2023 18:16
With Tom Lemmon off giving thanks for a conveniently timed move to New York, Victoria Thiele and George Smith held the fort on this week’s episode of Another Fine Mezz. Over the week, George and Tom had done a deep dive into Nationwide’s ‘stock and drop’ tactic for speeding up RMBS distribution, briefly mentioned on the previous episode. George explains why it’s a great idea, but won’t spare the m...
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