AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You've Been Missing

This roundtable sits in the tender middle where grief and everyday life meet. Abby shares losing her sister—her person—and how that reshaped motherhood, work, and identity. Katie reflects on losing her dad unexpectedly and the decade-long evolution of grief that led to her new book, Grief Cookies and Other Comforting Things . Together we talk language (what helps, what harms), parenting through lo...

For our 100th episode, Ashley sits down (in person!) with longtime friend and poet Megan (Meg) Leonard to talk about the beginnings of AND/BOTH, the early days of motherhood, and the stubborn, beautiful work of staying true to yourself when life keeps changing. From stroller walks and kindergarten drop-offs to building creative work in the cracks of a very full life, this episode is a love letter...

Becoming a mother changed everything for Kim Richards, not just her routines, her priorities, or her sleep schedule (though all of that, too), but her sense of identity. And like many moms, she found herself wondering: If I’m the one taking care of everyone, who’s taking care of me? In this episode, Kim shares the story behind Caring for Mama , a mission-led business she built to remind caregivers...

You know that moment when you realize the life you’ve built no longer fits, and it’s time to choose yourself, even if it’s messy? Renée Bauer knows it well. As a seasoned divorce lawyer (23 years in the game) and someone who’s walked through two divorces herself, she brings a rare combination of personal insight and professional clarity to a topic we don’t talk about enough -> what happens when...

What if the patterns you keep bumping up against aren’t actually you —but simply habits your mind has learned to run on repeat? In this episode, I’m joined by Kristyn Livermore , director of West End Hypnosis, who shares her journey from being a client herself to building a practice that helps people rewire unhelpful patterns, step out of autopilot, and reconnect with their own sense of choice. Kr...

What happens when motherhood collides with ambition and the systems around us weren’t built to support either? This week, Ashley sits down with Dr. Anne Welsh , a clinical psychologist, executive coach, mom of four, and advocate for working parents. Anne’s career has spanned maternal mental health, coaching women in male-dominated industries, and consulting with organizations that are (finally) st...

Today’s episode goes behind the scenes with my roundtable cohost, Erin, host of the PG-ish Podcast. Even though we live on opposite sides of the country and have never met in person, Erin and I can dive into honest conversations and share truths that aren’t often talked about. We chat about our own podcasts, motherhood, where we’re heading next, and what’s fueling these episodes. We believe that c...

Career. Parenthood. Flexibility. For so long, we’ve been told these choices are black and white- either you stay in the workforce full-time or you step away completely. This week's episode features Kaleana Quibbell , a mom and corporate veteran who is challenging that story. After leaving her corporate career in internal benefits consulting, Kaleana built a new path as a part-time consultant and m...

If you grew up in the 80s or 90s, you probably remember “the talk”, one awkward, fluorescent-lit conversation at school or a quick birds-and-bees download from your parents. But as parents today, we know it doesn’t work like that anymore. In this episode of AND/BOTH , I sit down with returning guest Angie Enger, a sex and self-intimacy coach, parent, and former teen clinic sex ed teacher, to talk...

In this deeply honest and nourishing conversation, I’m joined by grief educator, somatic practitioner, and trauma-informed coach Mandy Capehart for a conversation that reaches far beyond loss—and straight into how we live, parent, and show up for ourselves and each other in the messiness of life. Mandy shares her personal journey through profound grief, including the loss of her mother and the unr...

In this powerful and unfiltered roundtable episode, Ashley and Erin sit down with Heather Chauvin and Amri Kibbler, two women who have faced the unthinkable: a cancer diagnosis in the middle of motherhood, business, and everyday survival. Together, they open up about the moments they knew something was wrong, the delays in care, and how deeply ingrained patterns of people-pleasing and self-neglect...

Ashley is solo this week to talk about caregiving, creativity, and what it really means to support mothers as whole people. She shares updates on her digital platform Dovetail, reopens consulting hours under Home Field Advantage, and introduces two exciting new offerings: the And/Both Community (now open!) and the Nurtured Entrepreneur Retreat (coming 2026). This is a personal episode about honori...

In this throwback episode, Ashley sits down with Nicole Lenzen —a solo mom by choice, former wedding dress designer, tech consultant, and now a coach specializing in parental leave transitions . Nicole shares her unique journey through multiple career paths, a major health wake-up call, and the decision to become a solo parent. After navigating an overwhelming return-to-work experience post-leave,...

In today's episode, we chat with Abby Wachoff, an occupational therapist and mother, to discuss the profound impact of losing her sister to cancer. Abby shares her raw and heartfelt journey through grief, how it reshaped her life and career, and her decision to pursue a master's in mental health counseling. They delve into the complexities of motherhood, grief, and the importance of being present....

In this episode of AND/BOTH, we’re joined by creative visionary and women’s health advocate Amri Kibbler for a raw and necessary conversation about burnout, motherhood, entrepreneurship, and surviving not one but two colon cancer diagnoses. Amri shares how she went from editor at Glamour and co-founder of the 75,000+ member HeyMama community to navigating medical gaslighting, missed diagnoses, and...

What if building a sustainable business and raising a family didn’t have to feel like a juggling act? In this episode of the And Both podcast, we’re joined by Jac White, founder of Honeybees Group and self-proclaimed “anti-make-seven-figures-in-your-sleep-by-posting-on-Instagram” sales coach. Jac gets real about building businesses, motherhood, and the money myths holding so many women back. With...

In this powerful roundtable conversation, Ashley Blackington is joined again by Erin Holland (PG-ish Podcast), Dr. Sheryl Ziegler (psychologist and author of Mommy Burnout ), and Alison Campbell (founder of Unburnt) for an honest, timely deep dive into burnout, what it looks like, what it feels like, and what it takes to truly recover. From the physical and emotional toll to the identity-shifting...

Gabs Hayes, entrepreneurial mother of three and founder of The Village community, shares her powerful journey from corporate burnout to intentional living. After experiencing the stillborn loss of her son seven years ago, Gabs began questioning everything she thought life was supposed to be. In this raw and honest conversation, she discusses how she and her family have lived as "slow nomads" acros...

In today's episode, Ashley chats with Amy Leclerc, co-owner and president of franchising at Sit Still Kids, shares her journey from magazine publishing in NYC to scaling boutique fitness with Bar Method to revolutionizing the children's haircare industry. In this conversation, Amy discusses how she's built multiple franchise businesses while raising two kids, the importance of work-life integratio...

In this candid and eye-opening conversation, Ashley welcomes Angie Anger, a self intimacy and sex coach, to the And Both Podcast . Angie shares her non-linear journey from counseling and corporate marketing to becoming a coach who helps women and femmes reconnect with their bodies, pleasure, and self-worth—especially through the lens of motherhood and long-term partnership. With empathy, humor, an...

Ashley Blackington welcomes Julie Cole, co-founder of Mabel’s Labels, for a rich conversation on motherhood, entrepreneurship, and building a life and business that actually works. Julie shares her journey from lawyer to mom of six to label mogul, and all the messy, meaningful moments in between. She opens up about flexible work, raising independent kids, and the unfiltered truth of growing a busi...

In this candid and insightful episode of AND/BOTH, host Ashley Blackington sits down with Tricia Mirchandani, founder and creative director of T Collective, to explore what it really looks like to build a business on your own terms. They dive into the realities of parenting in the digital age, the winding road of creative entrepreneurship, and how Tricia is using her career to build a better front...

In today's roundtable episode, Ashley and Erin chat with two women building deeply human solutions for working moms: Kate Tovsen, founder of The Society of Working Moms and Kate Tovsen Media , and Alli Kushner, founder of BeeKyn , a soon-to-launch playdate matching and scheduling platform for modern families. This honest, wide-ranging discussion explores why loneliness is a shared, but rarely talk...

In this episode, Ashley is joined by Joselyne Walter, a first-generation Latina business owner, marketing expert, and founder of The DIGG Agency. With a background in dispatching 36,000 truckloads a month and leading marketing efforts for some of the top companies on the Fortune 500 list, Joselyne shares her powerful journey from supply chain to C-suite to self-employment. Their conversation dives...

In this behind-the-scenes solo episode, Ashley offers a much-needed update and peek into what’s happening on and off the mic. From wrapping up Season 7 and kicking off Season 8 with a brand-new roundtable series, to pressing pause on summer recording and launching a care logistics platform years in the making—this episode is full of transitions, clarity, and new beginnings. Ashley also shares the...