Legal Talk Network
Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer
Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law's Joe Patrice, Kathryn Rubino, and Chris Williams. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
The Fight For Diploma Privilege 21.07.2020 35:52
This week, Joe chats with Dr. Pilar Escontrias, Donna Saadati-Soto, Efrain Hudnell, and Emily Croucher, co-founders of United for Diploma Privilege. Follow them @DiplomaPriv4All.
Chief Justice Hits His Head And Remembers Rule Of Law 14.07.2020 32:46
The Supreme Court year is finally over.
When Attorneys Attack! 07.07.2020 19:24
It was an eventful week in legal news, but the biggest story was definitely the St. Louis personal injury attorneys who pulled guns on protesters and why lawyers have special obligations to maintain professionalism at all times. All that and more of the major stories of the week.
Addressing Law School Racism & Neomi Rao's School Of Legal Writing Don'ts 30.06.2020 30:36
A new account compiles the acts of racism that compound at Harvard Law School, but they could emanate from almost any law school. We take a look at this account and the response of law schools around the country to recent events, including one law school that's taking an aggressive anti-racism stance. Also, we discuss Neomi Rao's Michael Flynn opinion which left a lot to be desired as a work of pr...
A Wild Week At The Supreme Court 23.06.2020 27:16
A decidedly conservative Supreme Court made discrimination against the LGBTQ community illegal and then turned around and wiped out the Trump Administration's effort to cancel DACA. What was in the water last week? Joe and Kathryn break down why the opinions weren't nearly as revolutionary as the results they brought might make them seem.
Explaining Michael Flynn's Case To Non-Lawyers And Other Challenges 16.06.2020 28:17
With an independent report by a federal judge branding the Department of Justice "corrupt" this seems like a good time to revisit exactly how we got here. Your elderly aunt on Facebook has a lot to say about Michael Flynn and most of it is wrong. Joe and Kathryn unpack the case and also discuss the case of a lawyer who egged a judge's car.
As Law Firms Self-Reflect, State Bar Exams Double Down 09.06.2020 27:04
As law firms struggle to demonstrate to clients and their own attorneys that they take societal ills seriously, Kathryn's starting to notice some patterns in the statements getting released. Meanwhile, Joe is covering the state bar exams, where many are continuing to insist on shoving hundreds of people into small rooms in July and making applicants sign away their rights for the privilege of expo...
Guns, Germs, And Section 230 Internet Regulation 02.06.2020 28:54
Lawyers are pulling guns over facemasks? That... seems excessive. But here we are staring into the COVID abyss again. Austerity measures continue throughout the industry, lawyers are getting edgy, and a new assault on "the law that built the internet" issues from the White House.
Why Business Development Is Every Lawyer's Problem 26.05.2020 27:34
Joe speaks with David Ackert, host of The Market Leaders Podcast about the role of business development in the legal profession. Lawyers may not love the hustle, but it's the basis of a service industry and lawyers at every level have a role to play in building their future opportunities. And it's not just a challenge for attorneys -- firms need to build a culture that maximizes respect for attorn...
Wait, Lawyers Talk Smack? 19.05.2020 29:59
Things are still closed down, which means we've not had an opportunity to haunt the halls of an event center with the usual legal community suspects for a while, so let's see what's going on out there. It's time to catch up with Keith Lee, founder of LawyerSmack, about the private community of lawyers he's built up over the years and the trends he's observed participating in these conversations wi...
Law Students And Dealing With COVID-19 12.05.2020 33:11
Joe chats with Johnnie Nguyen, the National Chair of the ABA Law Student Division about the wide-ranging issues facing law students in the midst of the pandemic and how the ABA is addressing those concerns.
Bringing Lawyers Together Under Lockdown 05.05.2020 32:33
The legal industry can still get together to learn and socialize.
Searching The Unknown Reaches Of The State Docket 28.04.2020 29:29
Trellis is turning the state court system into something lawyers can really use.
State Of The Industry After A Month Of Coronavirus 21.04.2020 32:45
A lot has changed since the middle of March.
For Clients, It's Important To Pay Bills On Time Too 14.04.2020 25:04
Long pay cycles aren't just a problem for outside counsel.
In Extraordinary Times, Lawyers Need Creative Solutions 07.04.2020 23:17
The power of flexibility.
Law Schools Struggle With COVID Response 31.03.2020 27:25
Joe and Kathryn check in from the Above the Law bunker to discuss law schools and the virus. While many schools quickly adopted pass/fail grading options others have held out, hoping to maintain some sense of normalcy. Are there really employers who will look back at Spring 2020 grades and think they're informative?
Building A Video Game Practice 24.03.2020 33:19
Since we last spoke, this guest has leveled up.
Crushing It On Test Prep 19.03.2020 32:13
Joe chats with Adam Balinski, founder of Crushendo, a test prep program focused on maximizing human memory. Auditory courses with a strong emphasis on tried and true memory hacks like location association and mnemonic devices, all worked into short, repeatable episodes you can listen to while going about your day.
Mixed Martial Law 10.03.2020 28:08
Joe welcomes back Jason Cruz from our earlier "Step Inside The Octagon" episode to discuss his new book "Mixed Martial Arts and the Law". From antitrust to labor law to performance enhancing drugs, there's a lot more law going into this sport than you might expect for a cage match where people kick each other in the face.
The Psychology of Document Review 25.02.2020 32:14
Dealing with thousands of documents presents a lot of challenges.
Election Law Special With Rick Hasen 18.02.2020 31:32
Discussing Iowa and the challenges to American democracy.
What's Up With Alan Dershowitz These Days 04.02.2020 33:50
After taking the spotlight in the impeachment trial... should we have all seen this coming?
Speaking Of Legal Farce 28.01.2020 38:43
Checking in on Elie after a solid week of watching wall to wall impeachment coverage and the wear of the marathon coverage is starting to show. There's not much "legal" about this trial, but we're going to parse through what we can. We also talk a little about Tulsi Gabbard's high stakes defamation suit against Hillary Clinton for calling the Hawaii representative a Russian asset. As a lawsuit it...
Life On The Other Side Of The V 21.01.2020 36:49
Joe and Elie chat with Edelson PC about the tech-oriented plaintiff and class action firm's work from protecting biometric privacy rights to addressing sexual misconduct in youth sports with partner Chris Dore and associates Aaron Lawson and Sydney Janzen.
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