AB Testing

AB Testing

Alan and Brent talk about Modern Testing (which isn't all that modern, and not really about testing - except when it is). Every other week or so, A&B tell stories and discuss what's happening in the world of software - including a variety of topics like Agile, Lean, Delivery, DevOps, Data Science, Experimentation, Leadership, and more. Intro / Outro music on the AB Testing podcast is The One by Rivet. License: CC BYIntro / Outro music on ABT343 is from https://filmmusic.io“Werq” by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

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AB Testing

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Technology

Podcast website

moderntesting.org

Latest episode

Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 160: The Modern Testing Podcast: featuring Bert Jernsen 06.06.2022

We talk about...a lot of things. From testing podcasts to A/B (with the slash) testing to the idea of Internal Developer Relations. It's a lot, so apologies in advance.

Episode 159: Darko Fabijan from Semaphore 02.05.2022

We have Darko from Semaphore - that's the good news. The bad news is that we lost the last 5-ish minutes of the podcast due to me not planning ahead. We will work with Darko to crash an episode of his podcast in the near future and complete the conversation.

Episode 158: Finding the Sweet Spot with Goal Setting 11.04.2022

We talk about setting goals...or commitments...or /PLANS/ for our team members.

Episode 157: Kanban - and then it gets boring... 27.03.2022

We play the kanban game - but stop, because playing the kanban game ( kanbanboardgame.com) on a podcast is super boring. So then we just gave up and started talking and wound up being even more boring. Enjoy!

Episode 156: Customers and Quality 14.03.2022

We talk a lot about Modern Testing Principle number 5 - the one that says only customers can evaluate quality, and why - despite controversy, we believe it is true. We also discuss whether or not Deming would be a fan of the principles.

Episode 155: Quality Coaching with Anne-Marie Charrett 22.02.2022

We are honored to have Anne-Marie Charrett join us this week to talk about quality coaching.  Anne-Marie currently works at CultureAmp where she puts quality coaching into practice. You can find her on twitter ( @charrett ), and on her website . Her ongoing book on quality coaching is available here, with fresh installments monthly.

Episode 154: The Complete Software Tester w/ Kristin Jackvony 07.02.2022

Kristin Jackvony - author of The Complete Software Tester - (https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Software-Tester-Strategies-High-Quality-ebook/dp/B09NGVVCJ9) joins us for a wonderful discussion on testing, testers, and the value of a music education. 

Episode 153: Quality Coaching with Henry Golding 24.01.2022

This week, we are joined by Henry Golding, who doesn't call himself a quality coach, but that's what he does anyway.  For more about Henry, check out this preview of Henry's talk at GDC , and his Game Automated Testing Resource Hub  

Episode 152: AAB Testing with Al Shalloway 10.01.2022

We are joined by Al Shalloway. We talk about Agile mostly, but we finally get to talk about SAFE. You can contact Al at al.shalloway at successengineering dot works

Episode 151: Past, Future, and Covid 13.12.2021

It's our last episode of 2021, so we take some time to reflect on the last year, look forward into the next year.

Episode 150: Ramble On 15.11.2021

It's our 150th episide. With absolutely zero celebration or anything else special, we ramble our way through discussions on Customer-Centric Monitoring, Alan's 3 biggest accomplishments in 2021, and our favorite video games.

Episode 149: Perks and Tips 25.10.2021

We talk a little about work place perks (for reasons unknown), and then talk more about the new fun challenges with Alan's new org.

Episode 148: Us, Them, and the (new?) MT Principles 11.10.2021

Eventually, we talk about how we could gear the Modern Testing Principles more towards development teams.

Episode 147: Coaching...and stuff 13.09.2021

We attempt to talk about coaching and quality coaching...and we do - mostly.

Episode 146: The answer is always data 23.08.2021

We chat a bit about the rise (?) of Modern Testing practices in the industry, and then look at a few TestSphere cards - and eventually end up talking a whole lot about data.

Episode 145: Diversity, Safety, and Brent's grody stories 09.08.2021

We kick off the episode with 5 painful minutes of discussion on Brent's hernia surgery before making it into a discussion on fairness, diversity, psychological safety, and other stuff. And we talk about a lot of books.

Episode 144: Days of Future Past 26.07.2021

We talk a bit about Alan's recent AMA on the future of test automation and then about his past with Microsoft Teams.

Episode 143: Questions from Larry 12.07.2021

We dive (wade? splash??) into some listener questions on Theory of Constraints applied to different aspects of software development and Modern Testing.

Episode 142: Wild Ideas with Reflect 14.06.2021

We're joined by Nick and Todd from https://reflect.run to talk about the future of test automation (sort of) and developers creating UI automation. We loved having these folks on the show, and hope you enjoy the conversation.

Episode 141: Dichotomies and Tautologies 31.05.2021

In this episode, we discuss deep vs. shallow testing, choosing what to automate, and the future of testing roles (sort of). The link we discuss is https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/15-1253.00

Episode 140: AB DevOps 17.05.2021

We discuss Alan's experiences at TestingFestival, talk a bit about DevOps and answer (sort of) a mailbag question on BDD

Episode 139: The Genius of Tangents 10.05.2021

We talk more about Lencioni's working genius model, and attempt to attach it to a mailbag question about how projects get done in a modern testing world.

Episode 138: So you want to "get into automation" 26.04.2021

We discuss one of the age-old questions of software testing. How does a "manaual tester" 'get into' automation. 

Episode 137: Personality Types 05.04.2021

We dive into our history of personality type tests. Starting with the classic MBTI, we move to Insights, Strengths Finders, and then Working Genius (we also briefly mention our Harry Potter houses). Meyers Briggs Insights Strengths Finders Working Genius

Episode 136: Learning stuff, and why testing isn't quality 22.03.2021

This time we talk a bit about learning (including an upcoming webinar from alan - https://www.meetup.com/Pacific-NW-Software-Quality-Conference-PNSQC/events/276239634 , and talk about quality vs. testing - which is just another framing of principle 5 of the modern testing principles. 

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