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5-4

5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it's a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics. Subscribe to our premium episodes & much more at fivefourpod.com/support5-4 is a production of Prologue Projects.

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Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

Town of Greece v. Galloway 07.12.2021

Let us now bow our heads in observance of this episode about why the Supreme Court thinks it's OK for a government to have prayer before public meetings, but NOT OK for the town to manage who gives that prayer or what they pray about. Amen. Follow Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon) and Michael (@_FleerUltra) on Twitter. Learn more about how you can help get the Judiciary Act passed...

The Failed Nomination of Robert Bork [TEASER] 23.11.2021

Robert Bork, a Regan nominee to the Supreme Court, showed the depth of his reactionary views during his confirmation hearings, and as a result, was voted down. That kicked off three decades of conservative whining and moaning and retribution, which continues to haunt us today.  This is why we drink. The full version of this premium episode is available exclusively to our Patreon supporters. To joi...

Michigan v. Environmental Protection Agency 16.11.2021

What's the return on investment on not having an asthma attack? If you can't count it, it doesn't count, according to the majority in this 5-4 ruling, which turned back EPA rules on mercury emissions from power plants. As a result, the power industry won't be burdened by those costly regulations, so you can breathe easy. LOL. Follow Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon) an...

"This Is A Captured Institution" - An Interview with Senator Sheldon Whitehouse 09.11.2021

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) joins us to talk dark money, judicial nominations, and whether the Democrats have any hope of getting things done without filibuster reform. Follow Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon) and Michael (@_FleerUltra) on Twitter. ERRATUM: At 17:10 Senator Whitehouse refers to a study of 78 Roberts court era decisions . He incorrectly states that 72 of the case...

Hamdi v. Rumsfeld 02.11.2021

A foreign "prisoner of war" can communicate with their family. An American "traitor" can argue their case in court. An American "enemy combatant" can do neither, according to the Supreme Court, creating a third category of prisoner with very few legal rights. America immediately post-9/11 was very chill and normal. Follow Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon) and M...

Younger v. Harris 26.10.2021

Oof, this is a tough one: Protect the Constitutional rights of actual people, or clutch the vague concept of "federalism" in my grubby little hands like Gollum with that ring. TBH probably gonna go with my precious.  Follow Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon) and Michael (@_FleerUltra) on Twitter. Learn more about Expand the Court Lobby Day at https://demandjustice.org/podcast ....

The Justices Are Getting Defensive [TEASER] 19.10.2021

When a Supreme Court Justice tells you he's totally legitimate and not part of a secret cabal 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩. The full version of this premium episode is available exclusively to our Patreon supporters. To join, visit  www.patreon.com/fivefourpod .  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Our Sponsors: * Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/fivefour fo...

2021-2022 Supreme Court Term Preview 12.10.2021

The 2022 Supreme Court term is shaping up to be pretty gnarly. We brought on The Nation's justice correspondent, Elie Mystal, to walk us through the cases he's watching. Patreon subscribers get ad-free case episodes, premium episodes, invitations to exclusive events, merch discounts, and more. Jealous? Join at patreon.com/fivefourpod. Follow Elie on Twitter @elieNYC. Hosted on Acast. See a...

Nieves v. Bartlett 05.10.2021

This case originates out of an incident at opposite Burning Man, a ski race in Alaska called Arctic Man. The ruling is about opposite free speech, wherein the justices vote to protect cops' First Amendment right to accidentally say the quiet part out loud when they're doing a retaliatory arrest.  Patreon subscribers get ad-free case episodes, premium episodes, invitations to exclusive even...

Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl 21.09.2021

A treaty or law not honored by the United States? It's more likely than you think! In a rare child custody case, the Supreme Court rules on the Indian Child Welfare Act, and finds that when you squint your eyes and look at the law kinda sideways in the dark, Congress must not have meant for the law to actually keep Native families together. Land back. Listen to This Land with Rebecca Nagle , s...

Eviction Moratorium: A Perfect Storm of Conservative Bullshit [TEASER] 14.09.2021

Liberty and the pursuit of justice for landlords and landlords only. In this episode, the hosts talk about how the Supreme Court contorted its reading of the law to deny the Centers for Disease Control the ability to ban eviction during the pandemic. The full version of this premium episode is available exclusively to our Patreon supporters. To join, visit  www.patreon.com/fivefourpod .  Hosted on...

SB8: Whole Woman’s Health v. Jackson 03.09.2021

In this emergency episode, the hosts discuss Whole Woman’s Health v. Jackson, the case where the Supreme Court declined to stay SB8. SB8 is the monstrous Texas law that allows anyone to sue anyone who even intends to help someone get an abortion after 6 weeks of pregnancy. The effect is that while very early term abortions are still legal in Texas, private individuals have been deputized to bounty...

Welcome to Law School 31.08.2021

What, like it's hard? This one goes out to all those incoming, current and former Elle Woodses.  You're doing amazing sweetie! Get the support of likeminded law students, lawyers, and law lovers (or haters) in our Slack community, by joining our Patreon at the $10 a month level. Patreon subscribers also get ad-free case episodes, premium episodes, invitations to exclusive events, merch dis...

Nestlé v. Doe 24.08.2021

Is it wrong to enslave children on a cocoa plantation? We'll never know! The Supreme Court dismissed the case! Patreon subscribers get ad-free case episodes, premium episodes, invitations to exclusive events, merch discounts, and more. Jealous? Join at patreon.com/fivefourpod. Follow Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon), and Michael (@_FleerUltra) on Twitter. Hosted on Acast. See aca...

Stephen Breyer [TEASER] 17.08.2021

In this episode, we spend an hour explaining why you should buy our "Stephen Breyer Retire" merch . The full version of this premium episode is available exclusively to our Patreon supporters. To join, visit  www.patreon.com/fivefourpod .  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Our Sponsors: * Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/fivefour for a great deal: http...

Americans for Prosperity v. Bonta 10.08.2021

The First Amendment protects the rights of very rich people to be anonymous, unbothered, moisturized, in their lane, well-hydrated, flourishing, when it comes to their charitable contributions. Not you though. Signing that petition to free Mumia in 11th grade is going on your permanent record. Follow Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon) and Michael (@_FleerUltra) on Twitter. To get premi...

Brnovich v. Democratic National Committee 03.08.2021

In this voting rights case from Arizona, the Supreme Court says you can DO racism, you just can't MEAN to do racism, deep down in your cold little withered heart. Follow Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon) and Michael (@_FleerUltra) on Twitter. To get premium Patreon-only episodes, ad-free episodes, access to exclusive events, and membership in the 5-4 Slack, sign up for our Patreon...

Why Supreme Court Media Coverage Sucks [TEASER] 27.07.2021

The legal media isn't doing its job. Except for us. We're killing it. The full version of this premium episode is available exclusively to our Patreon supporters. To join, visit  www.patreon.com/fivefourpod .  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Our Sponsors: * Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.quince.com * Check out...

5-4 Presents: Know Your Enemy on the 1/6 Insurrection 20.07.2021

Feed drop alert again! This week, 5-4 is inviting you to check out an episode of Know Your Enemy. If you like what you hear, subscribe to their feed wherever you get your podcasts. 5-4 will be back with new episodes starting next week. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Our Sponsors: * Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.quin...

Prologue Presents FIASCO: BENGHAZI 15.07.2021

Feed drop alert! No new episode of 5-4 this week, so instead please consider checking out the new season of FIASCO, the history podcast from Prologue Projects. This season we're tackling the Benghazi scandal, starting with the rise of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi and ending with the 2016 election. The episode we're sharing today is the fourth one in the series, in which Mitt Romney'...

Cedar Point Nursery v. Hassid 06.07.2021

You know what's exactly the same? When the government kicks you out of your house so it can build a military base, and when a union organizer gives a farm worker a pamphlet. Or at least that's what the majority of justices on the Supreme Court think, based on the ruling in Cedar Point Nursery v. Hassid. We want to know what you think about 5-4 - give us your feedback on this survey! To get...

Textualism [TEASER] 29.06.2021

The hosts discuss Textualism, the legal theory that the dictionary is the real law, God made the dictionary, and what legislators intended is a secondary consideration at best. The full version of this premium episode is available exclusively to our Patreon supporters. To join, visit  www.patreon.com/fivefourpod .  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Our Sponsors: * Check...

Fulton v. Philadelphia 29.06.2021

In this emergency episode, the hosts discuss one of the spiciest cases from this term, Fulton v. Philadelphia. And you know how conservatives hate spice, so suffice it to say, this holding didn't come out great! Patreon members got this episode a week ago! To get early access to emergency episodes, access to exclusive events, and membership in the 5-4 Slack, sign up for our Patreon at www.patr...

Fulton v. Philadelphia [TEASER] 22.06.2021

In this emergency episode, the hosts discuss one of the spiciest cases from this term, Fulton v. Philadelphia. And you know how conservatives hate spice, so suffice it to say, this holding didn't come out great! Patreon members can hear the full episode now, instead of waiting a week! To join, visit  www.patreon.com/fivefourpod .  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Ou...

Meet Nick Wallace 21.06.2021

Congrats grads! Our gift to you is an interview with Nick Wallace. Nick is the former Stanford law student who was threatened with having his diploma withheld because the snowflakes in his campus' Federalist Society were triggered. Our Patreon supporters received this episode a week early. You can get early access, exclusive episodes, membership in the 5-4 Slack, and more too, if you become a...

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