SpendMend Pharmacy
340B Unscripted
Pharmacists and healthcare industry leaders Rob ‘Hoopi’ Nahoopii PharmD, MS, ACE and Greg Wilson PharmD, BCPS, ACE dive deeply into the complicated and contentious 340B Program as well as other pressing Pharmacy matters. Special guests and industry experts pop in frequently to add insights from all sides of the discussion. If you serve in the pharmacy sector, this podcast is a must-listen!
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Jun 29, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 44 | Pharmacotherapy Clinic Services & 340B 06.05.2024 53:22
In this episode, SpendMend colleague Matt Parker joins Greg and Rob (14:00) to discuss pharmacotherapy services, and how pharmacist-driven care can help promote improved health outcomes in a community, as well as how these services might intersect with a covered entity’s 340B Program. They highlight the clinical and financial benefits that these services can provide, map out a typical workflow for...
Ep 43 | Getting to Know the HRSA DRL – DRL 8 Self-Disclosure Documentation and DRL 9 Medicaid Billing Information 22.04.2024 51:10
In this episode, Greg and Rob continue to provide insights on the HRSA data request list. DRL #8 is self-disclosure documentation and DRL #9 is Medicaid billing information, which includes providing details regarding your CE’s listing on the Medicaid Exclusion File, as well as sample billing claim forms for physician-administered drugs and billing claim screenshots for retail dispenses. In the i...
Ep 42 | Getting to Know the HRSA DRL – Grantee Considerations Part 2 15.04.2024 44:43
SpendMend colleagues Jasmine and Megan continue their conversation providing some grantee CE perspectives concerning the HRSA DRL.
Ep 42 | Getting to Know the HRSA DRL – Grantee Considerations Part 1 08.04.2024 48:48
In this episode, SpendMend colleagues Jasmine and Megan provide some grantee CE perspectives concerning the HRSA DRL. They have so much great insight, we are breaking this conversation up into two parts. Stay tuned for Part 2 next week! In the intro, Rob and Greg discuss thoughts around responding to manufacturer 340B inquiries.
Ep 41 | 340B News & Notes 25.03.2024 29:14
In this episode, Rob and Greg catch up on a cluster of developments in the 340B space, including updates to manufacturer contract pharmacy restrictions, thoughts on a federal appellate court ruling on Arkansas' contract pharmacy law, a preliminary take on the 340B PATIENTS Act recently introduced by Rep. Doris Matsui (D-CA), and an update on ongoing litigation between hospitals and HRSA over child...
Ep 40 | Getting to Know the HRSA DRL: DRL 5 Purchasing Documentation and DRL 7 Entity-Owned Pharmacy Documentation 11.03.2024 48:20
In this episode, Greg and Rob continue reviewing data solicited by HRSA during an audit. DRL #5 is purchasing documentation, including a list of accounts, sample invoices, and 340B purchase order details. This ends up being a labor-intensive section to complete for HRSA, especially for larger organizations with a variety of purchasing practices. DRL #7 is an entity-owned pharmacy documentation, wh...
Ep 39 | A Revisit of Ongoing Contract Pharmacy Restrictions 26.02.2024 32:39
In this episode, Greg and Rob are once again joined by SpendMend team member Riley Protz, to catch up on the current state of ongoing manufacturer restrictions on 340B contract pharmacy operations, as well as to offer insights on various mitigation strategies, like the opportunity for grantee CEs to make associated site contract pharmacy designations in 340B ESP. If you have questions about this t...
Ep 38 | Getting to Know the HRSA DRL: DRL 4 Provider List and DRL 6 Contract Pharmacy Documentation 12.02.2024 1:04:50
In this episode, Greg and Rob continue their review of items from the HRSA audit data request list (DRL). They’ll cover DRL #4, the provider list, as well as DRL #6, contract pharmacy documentation. Don’t worry – they’ll come back to DRL #5 (purchasing documentation) in an upcoming episode! In the intro, Rob shares a few insights from the recent 340B Coalition Winter Meeting in San Diego, and t...
Ep 37 | Getting to Know HRSA DRL: Part 3 - 340B Universe Data 29.01.2024 1:06:51
In this episode, Greg and Rob continue to cover the HRSA data request list, focusing this week on DRL item #3, probably the most complex of all of the sections – 340B universe data. They’ll talk about tips for organizing your 340B utilization data for an HRSA audit, and share insights regarding what the HRSA audit experience might be like when reviewing this data. In the intro, the guys catch up o...
Ep 36 | Getting to Know HRSA DRL: Part 2 - CE Eligibility Documentation 15.01.2024 43:32
In Episode 36, Greg and Rob provide updates on recent 340B news around state legislation, manufacturer restrictions, and HRSA's decision to not appeal the Genesis case court ruling. They also provide insight and thoughts around the HRSA data request list item 2, the covered entity eligibility documentation. Also, if you are at 340B Winter Coalition, make sure to come see the team at Booth 611.
Ep 35 | Top 10 Developments in 340B for 2023 18.12.2023 1:05:01
For our last episode of 2023, Greg and Rob reviewed hot topics impacting 340B covered entities from the past year.
Ep 34 | Maintaining 340B Compliance: The Importance of Self-Auditing 04.12.2023 44:58
In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined by Spendmend colleague Cat Eriksen (16:11) to discuss the importance of self-auditing as part of a 340B covered entity’s overall compliance strategy. They’ll talk about HRSA standards around self-auditing, how some hospitals and clinics struggle to prioritize this effort, and why seeking external support to address self-auditing needs might be a good approa...
Ep 33 | Thoughts on the Genesis v. Becerra Court Ruling 20.11.2023 38:53
In this episode, Rob and Greg share thoughts from the recent federal court ruling on the Genesis v Becerra case, which focuses on patient definition. Additionally, they catch up on manufacturer restriction changes and some developments from recent Senate HELP Committee 340B inquiries. If you are attending the ASHP Clinical Midyear meeting in Anaheim, make sure to stop by booth 1500 to see us!
Ep 32 | Getting to Know the HRSA DRL: Part 1 – Policies & Procedures 06.11.2023 58:56
This episode is the first part of a series of recordings we are putting together to review the HRSA data request list (DRL). Rob and Greg discuss DRL item #1 – 340B Policies and Procedures. They’ll review the types of operations that HRSA expects to see outlined in a covered entity’s 340B policies and share some insights into how to manage these documents. HRSA audit readiness and a detailed over...
Bonus Ep 2 | HRSA Notice Addressing 340B Registration Requirements 27.10.2023 24:47
In this bonus episode, Rob and Greg review the HRSA notice published on October 27 that addresses the immediate use of 340B drugs in unregistered locations and some hospital considerations in response to the update.
Ep 31 | Answering 340B FAQs - Rob vs. ChatGPT 23.10.2023 1:02:37
In this episode, Rob is pitted against ChatGPT to answer 340B-related FAQs, including topics like child site registration, GPO prohibition, and HRSA audit findings (17:29). In the intro, Greg and Rob catch up on revised contract pharmacy restrictions and thoughts on recent manufacturer inquiries that 340B entities have been receiving. Email us questions, comments, or suggested podcast topics at 34...
Ep 30 | Turnkey Pharmacy Solutions, Whiteboards & 340B Stuff 09.10.2023 1:07:46
Rich Bucher, one of the co-founders of Turnkey Pharmacy Solutions, makes a long-awaited appearance on the podcast with Greg and Rob. Rich and Rob share anecdotes from their early days getting involved in external 340B support (23:26). Rich also shares some thoughts on 340B topics like GPO Prohibition mitigation strategies (39:13), what to make of the FAQ 4301 developments earlier this year (49:...
Ep 29 | The Intersection Between the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) & 340B – Conversation with Jeff Davis 25.09.2023 1:09:11
In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined by healthcare attorney Jeff Davis, to discuss how the Medicare drug pricing provisions in the IRA will impact 340B providers. They’ll go over CMS billing modifier requirements (15:27), share opinions on the financial impact covered entities might experience (38:02), and how various legal challenges to the IRA by the pharma industry may play out (56:29). T...
Ep 28 | 340B Conversation with Emily Cook - Part 2 11.09.2023 50:13
Rob and Greg continue their conversation with health care attorney and 340B expert Emily Cook (21:05). They discuss thoughts on the CMS Medicare Part B remedy, provide some commentary on the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) and its intersection with 340B covered entities, and address an issue that could impact hospital DSH eligibility in the future. In the intro, Greg and Rob are joined by SpendMend...
Ep 27 | 340B Conversation with Emily Cook - Part 1 28.08.2023 1:08:21
Rob and Greg are joined by Emily Cook (20:15), an attorney in the health care and 340B space. They discuss a number of 340B topics, including ongoing manufacturer restrictions of contract pharmacies (24:52) as well as legal challenges to HRSA’s patient definition (42:16). This is part one of a two-part series, so look for a future podcast episode with more conversation among Rob, Greg, and Emily....
Ep 26 | First Year Anniversary of the 340B Unscripted Podcast - Q & A Session 14.08.2023 1:05:31
Aiden shares the 340B questions sent in by our listeners, and there are some good ones. Questions include opening an in-house retail pharmacy, CAR-T therapy, continuum of care and 190 clinics, the IRA, and a couple of other fun ones. On our one-year anniversary, we want to thank everyone for listening and for all the encouragement we have received.
Ep 25 | 340B Coalition Summer Conference Recap - Part 2 31.07.2023 1:33:30
Rob and Greg continue to unpack all the great information gathered from the 2023 340B Coalition Summer Conference in Washington D.C. They chat with coworkers, clients, and friends in the 340B community to share insights from sessions at the Conference. Guests include SpendMend colleagues Jennifer Hagen (16:54) and Shakita Carter (38:12), as well as 340B hospital experts Erin Leigh (47:12), Nan K...
Ep 24 | 340B Coalition Summer Conference Recap 17.07.2023 54:19
Greg and Rob share highlights from the 340B Coalition Conference in DC. Topics covered include proposed CMS repayment for affected hospitals, Inflation Reduction Act updates, legislative updates, and other worthy conference discussions.
Ep 23 | 340B and the Medicare Cost Report 03.07.2023 57:38
Greg and Rob break down the ins and outs of the Medicare Cost Report and the dos and don'ts of child site registrations. They also provide an update on contract pharmacy manufacturer restrictions and information on the upcoming 340B Coalition Conference. We also hear from our Producer Aiden and provide the secret password for your free 340B Unscripted t-shirt at the conference.
Ep 22 | Maintaining 340B Compliance: Medicaid Duplicate Discount Prevention 19.06.2023 1:04:33
In this episode, Greg and Rob talk about an important 340B Program compliance element – preventing Medicaid duplicate discounts. They discuss the importance of maintaining the Medicaid Exclusion File (MEF), challenges with managing state-specific billing requirements, and strategies for managing out-of-state Medicaid. In the intro, the guys review updates to manufacturer restrictions for contract...
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