The Final Curtain Never Closes

Lisa Baue stepped into funeral service as a third-generation funeral director, challenging long-held beliefs about who belonged in the profession. Her story unfolds in the context of a family business—her grandfather’s legacy—where growth was fueled by tradition but also by change. From an early age, Lisa learned the ropes in an industry that rarely welcomed women and often quest...

Angela Kaatz is the owner and producer of Ghost Hunting Beauties . During this conversation, Genevieve and Angela dive into the role of women in the paranormal field and the unique sensitivity and connection women share with the spirit world. They explore the evolving perceptions of death and the afterlife throughout history, offering personal experiences and encounters with spirits and ghosts. An...

Mark Leslie, an author drawn to chills and thrills since childhood, has built his writing career by exploring the shadows of fear and death. His stories often begin with the very anxieties that once haunted him, turning them into explorations of empathy and the unknown. Through both fiction and true ghost tales, Leslie invites readers to face the darkness. And perhaps find connection within it. Ke...

In this conversation, Frank Vazquez shares his journey of grief and loss after the death of his close friend, Tim. The conversation highlights the importance of safe friends and the impact they can have on our lives. Frank reflects on his friendship with Tim and the deep connection they shared. The conversation also explores the responsibilities of being a safe friend and the profound effect of Ti...

Have you ever wondered what happens when you have to say goodbye to a pet? You might be faced with difficult choices, questions about euthanasia, and how to honor your pet’s memory.  Today, Dr. Jennifer Le talks about the role of a veterinarian at this moment, her personal story, and what you need to know when this time comes. We’ll cover: Why we make the decision to euthanize a p...

Jason Engler is a cremation historian and has one of the world's largest urn collections. During this episode, we dive into Jason's fascination with urns and how it influenced his decision to pursue a career in the history of cremation.  Tune in to this masterclass on the end of life process that's as old as time. Plan your visit to the museum today at nmfh.org and take a journey through over...

How does a landscape maintenance expert become an indispensable ally in the cemetery care industry?  Don Winsett, a strategy consultant and executive coach, discussed his journey from working with Davey Tree Expert Company to supporting the death care industry. His focus on enhancing cemetery maintenance practices reflects his passion for aiding communities in maintaining serene memorial spac...

Genevieve Keeney-Vazquez, the president and CEO of the National Museum of Funeral History, interviews Bridget Caletka, a grief counselor with Mosaics of Mercy . During this conversation, they talk about the importance of face-to-face communication in a technology-driven society. From the stages of grief to the various forms of grief, Genevieve and Bridget explore the topic of grief and societal at...

What role does technology play in end-of-life planning? Niki Weiss joins the podcast to discuss the intersection of technology and death planning. Niki emphasizes the importance of managing our digital footprint before death, tackling legal, financial, physical, and digital aspects in life planning. She presents real-world scenarios like the disruption caused by unprepared digital assets, inviting...

Barbara Kemmis serves as the Executive Director of Cremation Association of North America (CANA). During this episode, we discuss her unlikely path to working in the cremation industry (she was a librarian), as well as technological advances that will leave you in awe. Among these are water cremations. Learn more about CANA HERE . Subscribe to The Final Curtain Never Closes on Apple , Spotify , or...

What ignites the creation of a memorial service product that embodies personal stories and environmental consciousness? LifeArt's innovative cremation containers, introduced by Nikki Nordine and Brent Thorson of TerryBear, bring a new dimension to honoring loved ones with personalized, eco-friendly designs. Inspired by global trends and consumer demands for sustainability and personalization, thes...

Barrie Schwortz and Rudy Dichtl have spent the greater part of the past few decades researching and authenticating the Shroud of Turin.  They join museum CEO and curator Genevieve Keeney-Vazquez to discuss the many things involved with studying the shroud which has captivated millions of people from all over the world.  During this episode, you'll hear how Rudy and Barrie ended up on thi...

Why does the Shroud of Turin continue to captivate both scientific interest and spiritual devotion? Nora Creech's lifetime passion culminated in her collaboration with Genevieve Keeney Vasquez to curate an exhibit at the National Museum of Funeral History. With her rich background in Shroud Studies, Creech seeks to elucidate its mysteries and inspire deeper faith exploration. The exhibit showcases...

What does it take to become a dedicated funeral director? Cody Lopasky, president of Commonwealth Institute of Funeral Services, delves into the education, hands-on labs, and apprenticeship that shape a skilled death care professional. With changing industry needs, students now require both academic rigor and a compassionate calling. Despite challenges, this profession is deeply rewarding. Key Tak...

How does the ICCFA adapt to ever-evolving consumer needs in the funeral profession? Nadira Baddeliyanage, executive director of ICCFA, discusses the association's commitment to adaptive change and support for industry members. Founded in 1887, ICCFA has expanded from cemeteries to include funeral homes and cremation to remain relevant. By networking, legislative advocacy, and educational events li...

In this conversation, Genevieve Keeney-Vazquez interviews Bob Boetticher Sr., a funeral director with 59 years of experience, about his career and the creation of the Presidential Exhibit at the National Museum of Funeral History. They discuss the significance of presidential memorabilia and artifacts, the role of the Military District of Washington in state funerals, and the planning and executio...

What makes recycling metals from cremations crucial for both the environment and society? Mike McKenna, director of Recycling and Development with Core Scientific, discusses the importance of a circular economy for repurposing metals from cremations. This process not only conserves precious resources but also supports charities with the recycled materials' value. Through such innovative practices,...

Hayley Campbell writes for WIRED, Buzzfeed, The Guardian, and VICE, among many others. She’s written a book about Neil Gaiman and her most recent book All the Living and the Dead tackles something many of us in the West struggle with: death. During this conversation, museum president and CEO Genevieve Keeney-Vazquez and Hayley discuss the many facets of caring for the dead. And helping the l...

Rania Mankarious, the CEO of Crime Stoppers in Houston, joins the podcast to discuss crime prevention and the significance of preparedness in crisis situations. Mankarious explains that even in the midst of panic, remaining calm and having a plan can save lives. She shares a personal experience of navigating a mall evacuation with her children, emphasizing the importance of pre-established exit kn...

In this episode Genevieve Keeney-Vazquez hosts Karen Worcester, Executive Director of Wreaths Across America (WAA). They delve into honoring fallen veterans, exploring WAA's inception, and its diverse initiatives, including educational programs. The conversation emphasizes the significance of commemorating our heroes and the profound impact of WAA's efforts. For more on this cause, visit Wreaths A...

Why is the preservation of forgotten cemeteries crucial amidst rapid urban development? As a commercial realtor with a passion for Texas history, Caryn Craig sheds light on the challenges of protecting hidden burial grounds. Houston's expansion has led to the rediscovery of sites like the Sugar Land 95, raising awareness of neglected graves. Caryn emphasizes that it is the responsibility of landow...

Why is having a will so indispensable?  Ken Wise emphasizes the crucial need for organized estate planning to prevent complex legal disputes and ensure clear asset distribution. He discusses the pitfalls of informal wills and the benefits of consulting an attorney for comprehensive guidance. Ken also sheds light on the importance of probate records in genealogy and the preservation of historical r...

Why do near-death experiences seem to offer transformative impacts on individuals' lives? Genevieve hosts a discussion with Kathi Beasley from The Institute for Spirituality and Health , who recounts her own near-death experiences. Beasley speaks about the feeling of meeting loved ones in a special place and encountering a being of light. Her experience involves a powerful energy of love piercing...

How does one woman's unique approach to art and nature inspire her work? Genevieve Keeney-Vazquez hosts Ashley Worhol on "The Final Curtain Never Closes." Ashley's art features preserved butterflies and taxidermy, driven by her spiritual connection to nature. She raises butterflies like monarchs and swallowtails, observing their lifecycles and behaviors. Freezing preserves the colors, while a rehy...

How does one navigate the intricate world of death and its rituals?  Welcome to "The Final Curtain Never Closes," the podcast from The National Museum of Funeral History. Join us as we explore the history and significance of humanity’s final rites through conversations with cremation experts, funeral school instructors, and researchers involved in our Shroud of Turin exhibit. Discover how these el...