Liberated Learning

Getting comfortable with being uncomfortable is a great way to take on other perspectives and stretch your own thinking. Kisa and Mike talk about times when they searched out new experiences for professional growth: driving up a mountain to Play Frontier, attending a speed-painting recreating the Sistine Chapel, playing improv games. These things may sound different on the surface. They are all di...

If we fall for the lie that there is a singular voice of authority, what stories do we miss? Kisa and Mike talk about the reciprocal nature of exchanging ideas. We all construct the knowledge and wisdom that inform our actions based on the stories we tell. That means we need to seek out multiple stories. If you’re the smartest one in the room, you need a different room.  Kisa can be found at The P...

This week, we share an episode of The Home Grown Podcast where Bethany Corrie and Melinda Marshall talk to Kisa about...well, everything.   The Home Grown Podcast can be found at  https://thehomegrownpodcast.podbean.com/   Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at  https://www.redleafpress.org/   Theme mus...

Listen...when we hear perspectives that are different from our own, we can get defensive or dismissive. But if we are serious about changing anything—  about shifting the conditions we say we care about—then that pattern has to be interrupted.  Not later.  Not when it’s convenient.  Now.  Listen...    Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and F...

What is required of a fire keeper? On today’s episode, Mike and Kisa unpack what it means to tend to the children in our village long before any of them feel the need to burn it down just to feel its warmth. They know If they try something and fail, they are loved.   If they try and succeed, they are loved.   If they act out in anger, they are loved.  Even if they don’t get the red plate today, th...

Liberating yourself starts with dreaming of what you want in the world. It’s not about ignoring the challenges but imagining a way through them. Kisa tells Mike about her writing process working on her new book, "We Are the Ones We’re Waiting For." Kisa and Mike both find that writing is less about coming up with new ideas and more about connecting the threads of the ideas that keep popping up.   ...

The first 1,800 days of life remind us that the micro shapes the macro. The smallest moments—how we respond, how we care, how we show up—matter more than we often realize.    On today’s episode, Mike (also known as Mildly Helpful Mike) and I talk about small steps toward the liberation of self and others, and what might be possible if we chose to show up in mildly helpful ways a little more often....

LL009 Care and Cooperation  When we focus on our community of children and educators rather than each child as an isolated individual, we find an infinite number of ways children show up as a helper, speaking up for themselves and speaking up for others. Too often, the culture of early childhood education tries to foster “self-help skills” with the goal of independence. But most children show thei...

Liberated Educator Job # 1: Make it normal for each child to appreciate every other child. Create a space where everybody understands that everybody is different. Even in a homogenous space, everyone brings a different cultural context because culture is multi-faceted.  What if every child in a room that looks the same still saw their unique culture, identity, and experience as something to be cel...

What if we've been moralizing play in ways that quietly shape who gets to hold power later? What if we let children play the way they want to play? What if let each child learn about themselves by trying out multiple ways to play and ultimately, multiple ways to be in the world?    Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books...

There are so many neurotypical assumptions in the field of early childhood that cause many of us to see neurodivergent children through a deficit lens. Kisa and Mike wonder what would happen if we viewed these same children with a lens of curiosity and celebration. Some children may play differently than most children, but play is play.  Mike references the article Including Autism: Confronting In...

People of the global majority have to work twice as hard to be twice as good. Kisa shares how she can face people questioning her expertise and --to no surprise—Mike shares that he hasn’t been questioned in the same way even when someone disagrees with him. Kisa and Mike dig deep into cultural curiosity, expertise, and what it feels like to navigate learning spaces where your humanity is always up...

Having all the answers is a Eurocentric idea that is woven into the educational system. But we are better served with curiosity. When children play, they actively construct their knowledge. We should bring that same curiosity when working with children. Another shortcoming of the idea of having all the answers is that each of us sees the world through are unique cultural lens. Just because you hav...

Kisa and Mike reflect on the view of educators as people who bestow skills and knowledge on children and find it to be a dehumanizing practice. This practice creates a barrier to authentic relationships between everyone in the learning community, children and adults. This is especially true for the flibbertigibbets of the world who can be seen as a problem to solve rather than person to celebrate....

Kisa starts with a story about a child bringing a big stick back from the park, but the conversation quickly pivots to the nature of freedom and exercising power over, for and with others. Later, Kisa says that she prefers taking the back roads rather than the highway. This conversation is proof.  Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Faceb...

Kisa and Mike like to talk. In this first episode, you can listen in as they reflect on their journeys with young children. Unsurprisingly, the conversation starts with a reflection on words because changing the words you use, changes how you think about things and even, what you do.  Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their bo...