Relationship Matters

Across this 3-part special, Katie talks with Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz co-authors of Golden The Power of Silence in a World of Noise. The book reveals how to go beyond the ordinary rules and tools of mindfulness. It’s a field guide for navigating the noise of the modern world—not just the noise in our ears but also on our screens and in our heads. Drawing on lessons from neuroscience, business,...

Across this 3-part special, Katie talks with Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz co-authors of Golden The Power of Silence in a World of Noise. The book reveals how to go beyond the ordinary rules and tools of mindfulness. It’s a field guide for navigating the noise of the modern world—not just the noise in our ears but also on our screens and in our heads. Drawing on lessons from neuroscience, business,...

In this episode, Katie is talking with Sunčica Getter and Marita Fridjhon about Systemic supervision. CRR Global’s new Systemic Supervision program launched at the start of this year, as a way to help team coaches ‘walk the talk’ through understanding the many levels (and layers) of systems that may show up in systemic coaching. Systemic supervision is a reflective practice, that uses the principl...

In this episode, Katie is talking with CRR Global co-founder and CEO Marita Fridjhon about curiosity and quantum flirts. Building off their last conversation   in which they explored chasing the speed of change, they explore how quantum flirts- or tiny synchronistic signals in the world around us- can help us to slow down and see situations differently. The term, ‘Quantum flirt’ comes from the wor...

In part one of two special bonus episodes with CRR Global co-founder and CEO Marita Fridjhon, Marita and Katie discuss ways in which we can create space within the pace of change. How can we slow down upfront in order to speed up in the long run? Chasing the speed of change happens on every level and it’s inevitable. It’s part of being human. So we have to work really hard at slowing down in order...

In this bonus episode of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie talks with Marita Fridjhon and Frank Uit de Weerd about their new book, ‘Systems Inspired Leadership: How to tap collective wisdom to navigate change, enhance agility and foster collaboration.’ The book, which topped the Amazon charts Business & Organizational Learning in its first week, offers a powerful alternative for innovati...

In the final episode of season 3,  Katie talks with Faith Fuller and Yuri Morikawa and the evolution of women's leadership. Faith Fuller, co-founder of CRR Global and Yuri Morikawa founder of CRR Japan have an international friendship and creative partnership that spans over 12 years. In this podcast, they share a topic that is close to their hearts and one that has been evolving across throu...

In this episode, Katie talks with ORSC coach and Agile expert Terrance Turpin about micromanagers as a voice of the system. Many managers who are dealing with cross-functional teams can all too easily fall into the habit of micro-managing. They are now removed from the products that previously led to promotion and are now suddenly expected to focus on the people. They find themselves stuck- still...

In this episode, Floyd Carlson is back on the show talking about Neuroscience and Teams. This is the second installment of a two-part special, focusing on neuroscience and what it can teach us about relationship. In Part 2, Floyd focused specifically on teams and looking at what the latest neuroscience research can teach us about our work with teams.  Across the episode, Katie and Floyd discuss a...

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global CEO and Co-Founder Marita Fridjhon about hearing, seeing and sensing Systems. The capacity to be present with systems is at the heart of Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching and a coach or leader can do this through a variety of different channels, like seeing, hearing and feeling.  Across the episode Katie and Marita look at the benefits of...

In this episode, Master Coach  Maddie Weinreich is back on the show talking about two further coaching competencies she sees coaches struggling with the most: Revealing the system to itself and working with the emotional field. As well as being past director of faculty and leader development at CRR Global Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Ce...

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member and founder of CRR Japan, Yuri Morikawa about how listening is healing. Across the episode, they discuss listening as a superpower, what it means to really listen, the potential of listening in Relationship Systems Work, healing through listening, and how to truly listen to ourselves, our clients and the world around us at a deeper level....

In this episode Katie talks with ORSC faculty leader and CRR Canada partner, Kerry Woodcock about the magic of Metaskills.  The concept of metaskills was first introduced by Amy Mindell and has since been enhanced and leveraged in key tools in the ORSC approach. A metaSkill is the attitude, stance, philosophy, or “come from” place that both the leader and team members stand in when doing this work...

In this episode, Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) discusses the process of Meet, Reveal, Align and Act. Whether we are engaging in a one-on-one conversation with a neighbor or working with a large group, these three phases can help us when working with all types of Relationship Systems. Across the episode we discuss how to effectively meet a system, helping cli...

In this episode, restoration practitioner Jennifer Pernfuss talks about how to resolve harassment complaints (and conflict) using a systems inspired approach. If you’ve not had a chance to listen to part 1, we'd highly recommend checking out Workplace conflict (part 1): The balcony view . In part 1, Jennifer and Katie discuss the importance of taking a systemic view in highly charged and comp...

In this episode, Katie talks with Floyd Carlson about Neuroscience and Relationships. This is the first of 2 installments on neuroscience and what it can teach us about our relationships. In Part 1 we’re talking about how neuroscience can help us to better understand ourselves because the more we are aware of what’s going on within us, the more it’s going to help us as coaches, leaders and human b...

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global CEO and co-founder Marita Fridjhon about the competencies behind system inspired leadership. Systems Inspired Leadership (SIL) is an innovative approach to leadership that creates from the wisdom of the system rather than tells people what to do and builds shared leadership at all levels of the organization. Their discussion includes what is and isn’t a...

In this episode, Katie is talking with Neil Edwards about Leadership and Love. In business ‘love’ is not a word, characteristic, or value, we often see or use. Yet, what might be the value of bringing more ‘love’ into the workplace? And how might leading with love transform our working relationships and company cultures? Across the episode we discuss how love affirms life, the sanitation of words...

In this episode, Master Coach Maddie Weinreich delves into two of the coaching competencies she sees new systems coaches’ struggling with the most: holding the system as the client and holding the system as intelligent, generative, and creative. Over the course of the episode, Maddie discusses tips, traps and tricks to using these competencies, what it means to ‘hold the system’ as a client, some...

In this episode, Katie talks with workplace conflict expert, Jennifer Pernfuss, about how to effectively meet systems amidst conflict and crisis, by taking the balcony view. They discuss why it’s important to bring a systems lens to issues involving workplace harassment, using workplace conflict in a constructive manner, creating psychological safety, and the role of rank and privilege.  Jennifer...

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller and CRR faculty member Janet Frood about viewing Nature as an ally when we consider relationship systems intelligence. This isn’t just about considering our relationship with nature but also, thinking about how nature is a part of us and looking at what nature can teach us. Across the episode, they cover a variety...

To kick-start a brand new season of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie Churchman talks with Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) about crossing edges around returning to the office.  After over a year of lock-down and remote working, many organizations are now contemplating a return to the office. However, there’s no clear road map for navigating this change a...

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers from across the globe, wh...

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers from across the globe, wh...