Honoring the Journey

In this special episode of Honoring the Journey, Leslie sits down with her oldest daughter, Stephanie, for an open and vulnerable conversation about faith, family, and personal transformation. Together, they reflect on their shared history, the impact of religious upbringing, and the challenges of deconstructing long-held beliefs. Through laughter, honesty, and a few tears, they explore what it me...

In this episode, we welcome Brit Hartley, an atheist spiritual director, to discuss her personal journey of deconstructing from Mormonism and religion at large. Brit shares her upbringing in a loving Mormon community, the cognitive dissonance she experienced as a teenager, and the pivotal moments that led to her faith crisis and eventual atheism. The conversation explores the challenges of losing...

Today we welcome my longtime friend, Nicki Pappas, for a deeply personal and vulnerable conversation. Nicki shares her story of growing up in the Southern Baptist church, navigating fundamentalist spaces, and ultimately deconstructing her faith. We also explore themes of spiritual abuse, self-love, embodiment, therapy, and the journey toward authenticity. Nicki opens up about her evolving beliefs,...

Today we welcome singer-songwriter and spiritual explorer Michael Gungor for a candid conversation about faith, deconstruction, and personal transformation. Michael shares his upbringing in a charismatic church, his early success as a worship leader, and the pivotal questions that led him to critically examine his beliefs. The discussion dives into the challenges of questioning long-held religious...

In this episode of Honoring the Journey, we chat with Malynda Hale—a singer, actress, podcast host, activist, and the new executive director of The New Evangelicals. The conversation explores Malynda’s upbringing in a progressive Christian household, her experiences navigating conservative evangelical spaces, and her journey toward embracing inclusive, justice-centered faith. Malynda shares insigh...

Today we are sharing a special, timely episode of Honoring the Journey where Leslie invites Ben Cremer back to the show to dive deep into the challenges of navigating grief, polarization, and faith in today’s divided world. Through honest conversation, personal stories, and a powerful parable, they explore what it means to see beyond our own lenses, embrace empathy, and walk the narrow way of love...

In this episode, Leslie welcomes back Brian Recker to discuss his new book, "Hell Bent: How the Fear of Hell Holds Christians Back from a Spirituality of Love." Together, they dive into Brian’s journey from a strict evangelical upbringing to a more open, love-focused faith, exploring how fear-based teachings—especially the concept of hell—shape personal beliefs, relationships, and community dynami...

Rachel Dixon joins us today to share her powerful story of self-discovery, faith, and authenticity. Growing up in a deeply religious environment, Rachel navigated the complexities of identity, conformity, and spirituality, ultimately embracing her true self and advocating for wholeness as a birthright. Imagine being accused by people in the church of being a homosexual because of how you look, bei...

Today we welcome Reverend Joseph Yoo for an open conversation about faith, deconstruction, and creating inclusive spiritual communities. Joseph shares his personal journey as a pastor’s kid in a multi-generational ministry family, his experiences with conservative and evangelical traditions, and his evolution toward a more inclusive, affirming approach to faith. Together, we discuss the challenges...

Today we honor the journey of David Hayward, known as the "Naked Pastor", who shares his profound journey of deconstructing faith . David discusses his background as a pastor, the origins of his Naked Pastor persona, his educational and theological journey, and the critical moments that led to his deconstruction. Together, we explore themes of authenticity, questioning beliefs , losing and finding...

In this episode of "Honoring the Journey," Leslie welcomes author and theologian Keith Giles to discuss rapture theology and its impact on those raised in fear-based religious traditions. Building on feedback from a previous episode, they explore the origins of rapture theology, its scriptural interpretations, and the psychological effects it has had on believers. Keith offers a historical and the...

In this Special Episode of Honoring the Journey, Leslie invites her sister (and bestie) Marie to join her and they discuss growing up in fundamentalism, rapture trauma, deconstruction and how they now see God today. This is a special episode because Marie is probably the only person Leslie had to talk to during her deconstruction journey before going public. They have been through a lot together,...

Today we honor the journey of Mary B. Safrit, a writer, podcaster, and content creator, to explore her story of growing up in the Bible Belt, navigating faith, queerness, and deconstruction. Mary B. shares candid reflections on her upbringing, spiritual journey, and the challenges and growth that come with embracing her identity and leaving behind people-pleasing tendencies. Together, MaryB & Lesl...

Preorder John's new book HERE! Key Ideas from this episode: * John Fugelsang’s background: son of former nun and Franciscan brother, raised in a progressive Catholic household. * Discussion of his new book, "Separation of Church and Hate," which critiques the weaponization of Christianity by right-wing fundamentalists. * Exploration of how fundamentalism distorts the teachings of Jesus and promote...

Today we engage in a profound conversation with guest Amanda Darrow, who shares her experiences growing up in Utah as a queer, Jewish/Catholic woman in a predominantly LDS community. We also discuss the emotional challenges, societal pressures, and the journey of self-acceptance Amanda faced, including her struggles with internalized homophobia and coming out. Together, we explore themes of inclus...

Today we honor the journey of Brian Recker, an influential figure in the Deconstruction community. Leslie and Brian dive into a heartfelt and candid discussion about Brian's journey away from fundamentalism and evangelicalism, sharing personal and relatable stories and reflections on faith, spiritual growth, and empathy. They explore the challenges and revelations that come with deconstruction, th...

Today we have a powerful and heartfelt conversation with guest Sharon “Rocky” Roggio, a filmmaker known for her impactful work on the documentary "1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture." We delve into Sharon's journey of navigating her identity as a lesbian within an evangelical Christian upbringing, her inspiration behind creating the documentary, and the challenges and triumphs she faced...

Today we get to chat again with author Keith Giles! We talk about his latest book, "The Quantum Gospel of Mary." Keith delves deep into the intriguing intersection of spirituality and quantum physics, explaining complex concepts in an easy to understand way. We also discuss the misunderstood figure of Mary Magdalene, her significant, often overlooked role within early Christianity, and how her por...

Today we welcome back Keith Giles, who previously shared his powerful faith and deconstruction journey in episode five. Keith recently wrote a book with his friend and co-owner of Quoir Publishing, Matthew Distefano, called “Reading Romans Right.” Leslie asks Keith, “Why would you write a book by that name? Are people actually reading Romans wrong? ” Apparently, the answer is yes. Keith shares the...

In this episode we welcome the acclaimed singer-songwriter Derek Webb. The conversation delves into Derek's musical beginnings, his experiences as a member of Caedmon's Call, and his transition to a solo career marked by songs that challenge the status quo of Christian music. Derek shares personal stories about his relationship with faith, highlighting his journey of deconstruction and advocating...

In this episode, we honor the journey of Kevin Sweeney, who has a fascinating and unconventional spiritual journey. Once a pastor and now a hospice chaplain and author, Kevin shared his profound experiences, including a life-changing moment while taking mushrooms at the age of 18 that led him to what he believes was a direct encounter with God. We delved into his background, his transition from in...

This episode underscores the transformative power of pain and adversity. Lauren Cibene, author of Tiger in a Lifeboat, openly and vulnerably shares her life journey and how a seemingly insurmountable crisis and emotional turmoil can eventually lead to profound personal growth and self-realization. Through her experience of deep pain, questioning, and despair, Lauren experienced a metamorphosis, em...

Join us as we honor the journey of Joe Boyd, a former pastor turned actor, movie producer, and deconstruction advocate, who shares his remarkable journey from traditional ministry to questioning foundational beliefs. Joe recounts how his discovery of deconstruction led him to leave the pulpit and explore his passion for performance and storytelling, eventually establishing a career in the creative...

In today’s episode, Leslie welcomes back Jim Palmer, a former evangelical mega church pastor turned advocate for religious deconstruction and non-religious spirituality. They delve into Jim's transformative journey from his early religious experiences to his crisis of faith and subsequent shift towards helping others navigate religious trauma and existential health. Jim shares insights from his re...

In this episode of "Honoring The Journey,"we welcome guest Jay Aedo, an author of children's books and a teacher of practical philosophy. The conversation delves into Jay’s unique and thought-provoking perspectives on storytelling, particularly how he reinterprets conventional Bible stories to teach children about personal responsibility. Jay discusses the impact of his religious upbringing as a J...