A HOP Podcast (With No Name)

(Trigger warning: suicide) Andy and Matt discuss a recent series of interactions they've had with Leaders, the Frontline workers, and how the reality of work often doesn't make it to the top.

We play a "mind game" of sending Andy back to one of her previous HSE roles with her existing HOP knowledge and ask what she would do differently - all of which we recorded in during a long drive.

We talk about discreet changes that can be made in conversations and the questions we ask to "do HOP".

Andy shares what an organization could look like as it grows and evolves over time with the implementation of HOP.

We continue our conversation about how HOP can be brought into an organization with the "site pilot" example - how one site (or a few sites depending on company size) can try HOP before the organization makes a large shift.

The journey (or should I say powerpoint?) continues. We focus on how can you finally start rolling out HOP inside your organization. Link for paper reference: http://matt.colorado.edu/papers/StatisticalInvalidityOfTRIR.pdf

What comes after step 0? We discuss how to take your newly shifted beliefs and put them into action.

Andy and Matt discuss "step 0" or what you need to ask yourself before you try to bring HOP into an organization.

We celebrate 50 episodes of A HOP Podcast (with no name) and share what it's been like from our perspective.

Andy and Matt share their key takeaways and learnings from the episodes with Erik and Ron.

The thrilling conclusion to our time with Erik and Ron discussing their individual and business HOP development.

We continue our conversation with Erik and Ron and learn more details of what it was like to navigate the HOP related changes together.

We continue our conversation with Erik and Ron. This time we focus on the details of what had to change both personally and as a business for the HOP Transformation to progress.

We continue our story with Erik and Ron - moving onto what it was like to shift focus from safety metrics (like TRIR) to prioritizing real human safety outcomes.

We welcome guests Erik (former CEO at Aera Energy) and Ron (Former HSE Manager at Aera Energy) for a mini-series on what it was like to go through a HOP transformation both personally and as a business.

We finish the story of how Andy navigates her own frustration and blame when working with some leaders.

We take a listeners question on how to help people who have started practicing HOP but are struggling with blame shifting from those doing the work to supervisors/investigators. This quickly becomes Matt's favorite episode as we have a conversation with Andy while she is struggling with actively blaming a group of people.

We wrap up the story from episode 40 and discuss how you can bridge the gap from completing operational learning to implementing a solution that may take months to years.

We discuss different ways you can approach seeing someone break a rule and why going in the HOP direction can increase accountability.

Andy and Matt discuss what HOP means to them inside and outside of work. Also, do we feel it is really worth all the extra effort and energy? (spoiler alert - yes)

We use two (hopefully helpful) analogies to describe what we mean when we say "HOP is not a program". Andrea shares a personal story with her daughter about how she applies this change in thought process to resolving conflict.

Andy finishes her "glove story" and shares how she came to understand what "capacity to fail safely" meant.

Andy shares her personal story of understanding what it means to "design differently" in HOP and how we can build more resilient systems.

We break down how we explain what HOP is and what happens if we change the way we think.

The (thrilling) conclusion to Andy's list of behaviors she changed while working at a large organization after learning about HOP.