Opening Arguments

Liz and Andrew try a lightning round segment, answer a listener question, and then update you on the travails of Trump's lawyers as defendants in Fulton County, Georgia and as conflicted-out scoundrels in the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida. Notes Hunter Biden Docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67511701/united-states-v-biden/?order_by=desc   US v. Abbott Docket http...

Okay, so it's an all-Trump episode... but you won't want to miss Liz and Andrew breaking down whether Donald Trump can sever his case from his co-defendants in Fulton County, along with updates on the Trump DC case and the impending disbarment of Trump's little buddy and insurrectionist mastermind, John Eastman. In the Patreon bonus, the duo update you on Day 1 of Trump lackey Pete Navarro's trial...

Today's show welcomes Georgia criminal defense and appellate attorney Andrew Fleischman to the show to help answer Liz and Andrew's questions about the case against Donald Trump and his criminal enterprise in Fulton County, Georgia.  You might be surprised at some of the things the major news outlets aren't getting right.... Notes DA Fani Willis’s Motion to Advise Defendants https://www.fultoncler...

Liz and Andrew tackle the latest right-wing nonsense freakout talking point: that Joe Biden, as Vice-President, used secret email accounts to backchannel his criminal plotting to his son Hunter. Learn how every bit of this claim is complete nonsense as we break down the latest FOIA lawsuit filed by the Southeastern Law center. After that, the two discuss Sidney Powell's hilarious motion to sever h...

It's our 800th Episode! Surprisingly, Mark Meadows testified at his removal hearing in Georgia, which means that he has likely waived his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. To understand what happened and why, Liz and Andrew welcome back friend of the show Mitchell Epner. Could this mean that Meadows will flip on Trump -- and if so, when?? Listen and find out! Notes GA v. Meadows f...

Today, Liz and Andrew tell you everything you need to know about Mark Meadows's efforts to remove the Fulton County, GA RICO indictment to federal court; about Sidney Powell's efforts to demand a speedy trial; and about the rising tension between Donald Trump and the rest of his co-conspirators.   After that, the duo break down the impending ethics crisis in the Southern District of Florida docume...

Today is a good day. Liz and Andrew enjoy the string of losses dealt to the Trump criminal enterprise in Fulton County, Georgia and then follow that up with some listener questions! If you wonder why it matters whether Mark Meadows can remove the case to federal court, this show is for you! If you're curious as to why some defendants want a speedy trial while others (*cough* Donald Trump) want to...

Liz and Andrew check in on the latest developments from the Trump indictments in Fulton County, GA with a RICOsplainer and a gaggle of removals; in Washington, DC with a complaint about a Statue of Liberty-sized mountain of discovery; and in the Southern District of Florida with an argument so bad it took Stan Woodward to make it. In the Patreon bonus, the duo tackle yet another chimera bred by Je...

Liz and Andrew discuss developments in the Fulton County, Georgia indictment with respect to Mark Meadows before welcoming guest Chris Regan to discuss the "two systems of justice" in our country: one for every other criminal defendant, and one for Donald Trump. The interview ends with a discussion of West Virginia politics and the future of Joe Manchin that you don't want to miss! Notes Meadows m...

Liz and Andrew bring you a (mostly) Trump-free show discussing all things Twitter, including the recent sanctions imposed for failure to comply with a search warrant, a lawsuit against the former Twitter lawyers, and a truly oppressive lawsuit designed to deter a charity that's critical of... Elon Musk's policies.   Notes X v. Wachtell , Complaint https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/dw...

It's here! Liz and Andrew break down the 41-count, 19-defendant indictment of Donald Trump on state criminal charges in Fulton County, Georgia. Notes Trump Fulton County, GA indictment https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000189-f730-dc32-ab89-f7fc1f760000 -Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/law -Follow us on Twitter:   @Openargs -Facebook:   https://www.facebook.com/openargs/ -For show-re...

Liz and Andrew welcome back friend of the show Mitchell Epner for an episode dedicated to understanding the right wing's latest distractions, including their bizarre and wrong argument that the DOJ corruptly agreed to funnel a sweetheart deal to Hunter Biden. Find out the truth - including why Hunter Biden's lawyers rejected the plea deal! - in this episode.  You won't want to miss it! -Support us...

We're back to a Trump show as Liz and Andrew break down the latest Trump filing in the Southern District of Florida documents case before moving on to DC to discuss Co-Conspirators 2 and 5, John Eastman and Ken Chesebro, particularly in light of the latest email discovered in which the Cheese suggests  everybody ought to do some light criming! Notes  US v. Trump (SDFL documents) docket https://sto...

Yes, you read that correctly. This is a classic OA deep dive, in which Liz and Andrew break down a disturbing sanctions order issued by a Trump-appointed judge in Texas who, all on his own, decided to order Southwest Airlines to fly out a bigot from the Alliance Defending Freedom to teach their lawyers how to be bigots.   It's bad. Notes Geidner substack https://www.lawdork.com/p/judge-orders-adf-...

Liz and Andrew compare and contrast procedural motions in both the Southern District of Florida (the document retention case) and the District of Columbia (the conspiracy to overthrow the elections case). What does a motion for a protective order tell us about how Special Counsel Jack Smith intends to prosecute both cases? Listen and find out! In the Patreon bonus, Liz updates us on developments i...

Liz and Andrew break down the weekend's developments in Trump's criminal case in DC for conspiring to steal the 2020 election, including a rundown of the terrible arguments being made by his newest lawyer, John Lauro. Notes U.S. v. Trump docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc US v. Trump motion for...

Liz and Andrew welcome back to the show Mitchell Epner, who helps break down today's arraignment of Donald Trump in DC, with a particular focus on the conflicts of interest surrounding Stan Woodward (in Florida) and Todd Blanche (in DC). Notes US v. Trump (DC) docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/ Blanche PHV https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourt...

It's INDICTMENT DAY! Liz and Andrew release an emergency episode one day early that tells you everything you need to know about the just-released Trump DC indictment! Notes TRUMP DC Indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_2.pdf J6 committee report https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf Ricky Vaughn Comp...

Liz and Andrew begin by discussing the latest developments in Fulton County, Georgia. No, it's not a Trump indictment - but it is the next best thing! After that, the duo break down Trump's latest LOLsuit loss in Trump v. CNN , and discuss how Trump may aim to leverage that loss into an argument to overturn the most important Supreme Court case in terms of press freedom: New York Times v. Sullivan...

Liz and Andrew welcome a very special guest expert to break down redistricting in Alabama, Miami, and elsewhere in light of Allen v. Milligan. This is an unpaid post on Patreon. Notes Grace, Inc. v. Miami https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.625372/gov.uscourts.flsd.625372.94.0.pdf Merrill v. Milligan (2022) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a375_d18f.pdf Allen v....

HERE IT IS! Liz and Andrew break down a rapid response to the superseding indictment of Donald Trump in the Mar-a-Lago documents case. As a bonus, the duo also discuss today's DOJ filing for a protective order and what it tells us about Trump's strategy (hint: it's greymail). Notes Trump Superseding Indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.64865...

Liz and Andrew break down the latest developments in Hunter Biden's plea deal and help inoculate you against the coming right-wing storm of misinformation suggesting something nefarious. In the Patreon bonus, Andrew and Liz take a deep look at the Trump SDFL docket and discover something very interesting about Special Counsel Jack Smith. Notes Liz’s ATL on Giuliani https://t.co/CN4aal5bx9 DOJ Pres...

Indictment Watch(TM) continues as Liz and Andrew update you as to what's new with Bernard Kerik before debunking the false arguments being made in defense of the fake electors who plotted with Trump to try and steal the 2020 election. If you've ever heard anyone dishonestly suggest that "Hawaii in 1960" justifies generating fake electoral certificates, this is the episode for you! Notes Judge Howe...

As Indictment Watch(TM) continues, Liz and Andrew turn their eyes to Fulton County, Georgia. Will DA Fani Willis beat Jack Smith in the race to indict Donald Trump for a third set of crimes? Will Trump's new lawyer, John Lauro, be less of a dipshit? (No.) And what about the fake cosplay electors who helped Trump try to steal Georgia? What's going to happen to them? Listen and find out! In the Patr...

Liz and Andrew provide a brief update as we continue to wait with bated breath on Trump indictments in DC (for the January 6th insurrection) and possibly in Fulton County, Georgia (for trying to falsify Georgia's election results). In the main segment, Liz and Andrew break down the Supreme Court's recent decision in Biden v. Nebraska on the so-called "major questions" doctrine as to why we can't h...