Wrestlenomics
Wrestlenomics
Wrestlenomics covers the business of pro wrestling. Pollock & Thurston is a weekly podcast hosted by John Pollock of POST Wrestling and Wrestlenomics’ Brandon Thurston. They are often joined by a relevant guest.
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How did WWE get a stadium built in four weeks? | Pollock & Thurston 28.01.2026 1:14:57
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the rapid construction in Saudi Arabia of a stadium to house the Royal Rumble. Plus: Vince & Linda McMahon oppose John Does remaining anonymous in the ringboy suit, Triller’s finances & more. Topics this week include: John & Brandon discuss the process of having a stadium built in Saudi Arabia and questions regarding the labor utilized for WWE’...
Response to Ring Boy Suit | Netflix Engagement Report | Pollock & Thurston 21.01.2026 1:18:03
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the defendants' responses to the ring boy lawsuit, Netflix’s engagement report, and TNA’s debut numbers on AMC. Topics this week include: Defendants file Answers in the ring boy lawsuit Vince & Linda McMahon push to reveal identities Netflix engagement report for the second half of 2025 Netflix’s earnings report TNA’s launch on AMC UFC kicks of...
WWE Class Action Palooza | AEW Q4 | Pollock & Thurston 14.01.2026 1:05:32
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss a class action lawsuit filed over WWE’s move to ESPN, AEW’s Q4 performance & Netflix’s WWE viewership stats. Topics this week include: Lawsuit filed against WWE over ESPN Unlimited Netflix releases states for WWE programming in 2025 AEW’s Q4 results from Brandon Thurston TNA’s launch on AMC this week Netflix Global Top 10 for the first week of 2026 ...
Wrestle Kingdom 20 Success | WWE Holiday Tour | Pollock & Thurston 07.01.2026 1:05:51
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover the success of Wrestle Kingdom 20, how WWE’s holiday tour performed, and Netflix strikes a deal for WWE’s library. Plus, POST Wrestling’s Karen Peterson speaks about the significance of Wrestle Kingdom, Hiroshi Tanahashi’s retirement, the debut of Aaron Wolf, the TV-Asahi broadcast, and Saya Kamitani’s breakout year. Topics this week include: Wrestle Kingd...
Endeavor’s Courtship of WWE | Biggest Stories of 2025 | Pollock & Thurston 31.12.2025 1:34:44
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover the TKO merger process with new documents unsealed and correspondence among key executives revealed. Plus, a look back at the biggest news stories of 2025 and ones to watch in the coming year. VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/EZCOw8EBD1s Music courtesy: “Panic Beat” by Ben Tramer POST Wrestling Subscribe: https://postwrestling.com/subscribe Patreon: h...
WWE Ring Boy Lawsuit Continues: Judge Says Case Will Proceed to Discovery | Pollock & Thurston 17.12.2025 1:20:45
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover the latest developments in the WWE Ring Boy lawsuit, as a judge rules that most of the plaintiffs’ claims will proceed to discovery. They also discuss John Cena’s final match and the business impact it generated, along with Mick Foley publicly cutting ties with WWE over Donald Trump. Topics this week include: Warner Bros. Discovery’s board approving Netflix’...
The Legacy of John Cena | Netflix vs Paramount | Pollock & Thurston 10.12.2025 1:44:26
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston look at the career of John Cena as the longest tenured main eventer in WWE’s history and the fight between Netflix & Paramount. Topics this week include: The legacy of John Cena and his run on top in WWE The showdown between Netflix and Paramount for control of WBD Lawsuit over Cena’s theme song Cena’s latest comments on Vince McMahon Mark Shapiro speaks at t...
TNA’s deal with AMC | The Politics Behind Tanahashi vs. Okada | Pollock & Thurston 03.12.2025 1:08:43
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston welcome Trish Speirs to discuss her excellent feature on the booking of Hiroshi Tanahashi’s retirement match and TNA’s new media rights deal with AMC. Topics this week include: TNA inks multi-year deal with AMC The booking of Hiroshi Tanahashi’s retirement match WWE Raw falls outside the global top ten on Netflix More on the WWE shareholder lawsuit and latest dep...
Big Data + Panel Wreaks Havoc on WWE & AEW | Pollock & Thurston 26.11.2025 1:18:19
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston unpack the effect Big Data + Panel is having on the professional wrestling industry, and a blistering response from CW on the new methodology. Topics this week include: Big Data + Panel reporting by Brandon Thurston, including CW’s response Comparisons using the old and new methods for WWE & AEW Significant updates in the WWE shareholder lawsuit Vince McMa...
John Cena at MSG | Tony Khan speaks with Ariel Helwani | Pollock & Thurston 19.11.2025 1:15:01
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston react to Tony Khan’s sit-down chat with Ariel Helwani, TKO’s big week at Madison Square Garden, a “Stunner” of a group chat, and the WON Hall of Fame class. Topics this week include: Tony Khan returns to the Ariel Helwani Show TKO runs UFC 322 & John Cena’s Final Raw at MSG ESPN and YouTube reach an agreement Latest in the ongoing shareholder lawsuit against W...
WWE Teams with MLSE in Toronto | TKO Q3 Earnings & TNA Bound for Glory | Pollock & Thurston 12.11.2025 1:14:09
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover WWE’s announcement with Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment, TKO’s Q3 earnings report, and how TNA Bound for Glory performed. Topics this week include: WWE and MLSE announce long-term partnership TKO’s Q3 Earnings Results Mark Shapiro comments on Fox’s performance with UFC TNA Bound for Glory’s gate and tickets sold Janel Grant accuses Dr. Carlon Colker...
Hall of Fame Ballots Revealed | TKO Q3 Preview | Pollock & Thurston 05.11.2025 1:22:15
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston share their Observer Hall of Fame ballots and debate who should be inducted this year. Plus: TKO prepares for its third-quarter earnings, analysis of AEW’s past quarter, Wrestle Kingdom 20 ticket update & a betting scandal rocks the UFC. Topics this week include: TKO to report Q3 earnings AEW’s past quarter performance Market-to-market comparisons for WWE &a...
WWE Ticket Prices Double | No-Compete Clauses | Pollock & Thurston 22.10.2025 1:23:07
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss WWE’s enforcement of no-compete clauses involving Andrade and Samantha Irvin, and whether these clauses could withstand legal scrutiny. Combat sports regulatory lawyer Erik Magraken joins them to break down the legality of these contracts and the push by TKO to pass the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act. Topics this week include: WWE enforces a no-...
NXT vs. AEW Super Tuesday Results | Pollock & Thurston 15.10.2025 1:11:31
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston look at last week’s “Super Tuesday” results, how TNA fared at Bound for Glory, and how best to assess a company’s success in this new era. Topics this week include: The changing metrics to assess pro wrestling companies TNA reports 7,794 attendance for Bound for Glory Advance for AEW WrestleDream in St. Louis Location for WWE Elimination Chamber Ridge Holland re...
AEW’s Public Funding & Attendance in Texas | SmackDown Viewership Plummets | Pollock & Thurston 08.10.2025 59:18
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the public funding and attendance figures from AEW All In Texas and react to SmackDown’s all-time low viewership. Thurston discusses his reporting on AEW All In Texas and the records he has received from the Government concerning the July 11 event at Globe Life Field. SmackDown falls to an all-time viewership figure under the new Big Data + Panel model, an...
Nielsen’s Big Data Shake-Up: WWE & AEW Viewership Takes a Hit | Pollock & Thurston 06.10.2025 34:26
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with Douglas Pucci of Programming Insider about Nielsen’s new method of tracking viewership and the negative impact it has shown for professional wrestling programs. Pucci explains how the new method differs from the previous model, its impact on other genres of programming, and why pro wrestling has seen significant decreases. Then, Pollock & Thurston ch...
AEW Dynamite Turns Six, Paramount inks Zuffa Boxing | Pollock & Thurston 01.10.2025 1:21:59
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover AEW Dynamite’s sixth anniversary, Zuffa Boxing’s deal with Paramount, and Dana White appears on 60 Minutes. Plus, Josh Nason from the Wrestling Observer returns to the show. Topics this week include: AEW Dynamite’s sixth anniversary tonight WWE partners with DC Events for John Cena’s retirement match Zuffa Boxing signs deal with Paramount Dana White profi...
WWE Wrestlepalooza vs. AEW All Out: Winners and Losers | Pollock & Thurston 24.09.2025 1:00:29
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down the head-to-head showdown between WWE and AEW , with both companies running their biggest shows of the month. Topics this week include: WWE’s debut on the ESPN app with Wrestlepalooza and fan reception AEW All Out streaming on HBO Max Tony Khan on streaming numbers and running afternoon events Key streaming & TV viewership data from the past week Wr...
WWE Moves WrestleMania to Saudi Arabia | Pollock & Thurston 17.09.2025 1:36:07
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover a massive week of news in wrestling, MMA, and sports media. The main story is WWE announcing that WrestleMania will be held in Saudi Arabia , with U.K. journalist Robert Jackman joining the show to break down the logistics and impact of the move. We also dive into: Independent promoters reacting to WWE’s Saudi Arabia strategy ESPN’s media call ahead of Wrest...
AJ Lee Spikes Audience, Bryan Danielson on Counterprogramming | Pollock & Thurston 10.09.2025 1:22:08
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down AJ Lee’s return to WWE and SmackDown surging to the #1 show on Friday, Bryan Danielson speaking on WWE’s counterprogramming strategy, and Bubba the Love Sponge’s response to the Nick Bollea lawsuit. Also covered on the show: John Cena’s upcoming retirement match in Washington, D.C. Paul Levesque addresses WWE’s contributions to Saudi Arabia Bubba the Lo...
WWE Clash in Paris | AEW All Out Moves Start Time | Pollock & Thurston 03.09.2025 1:17:01
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down WWE Clash in Paris , including the record-setting gate at La Défense Arena, WWE’s international business growth, and the company’s decision to run the venue on back-to-back nights. Plus, we cover the biggest stories across wrestling this week: AEW moves All Out to afternoon, PPVs available on HBO Max ROH Death Before Dishonor suffers technical issues WW...
AEW Forbidden Door, WWE ESPN Move | Pollock & Thurston 27.08.2025 1:31:42
Neal Flanagan, filling in for John Pollock, and Brandon Thurston discuss AEW’s Forbidden Door event and press conference, WWE PLE starting on ESPN DTC streaming earlier than originally announced, plus recent legal developments. Also: WWE’s PLEs moving to ESPN DTC and reworked NBCU deal Notes from the Forbidden Door post-show press conference Dr. Carlon Colker briefly discloses Janel Grant’s medica...
WWE’s Growing Dominance: Aggressive Tactics Against AEW | Pollock & Thurston 20.08.2025 1:12:46
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss WWE’s increasingly aggressive strategies to compete with AEW, and whether these practices raise antitrust concerns. They break down what this means for AEW’s future and how the company can realistically respond. Also on the show: WWE’s September PLE possibly airing on ESPN TNA is open to a move to directly oppose AEW Triplemanía XXXIII from Mexico City Wre...
UFC’s $7.7B Paramount Deal | WWE PLE vs AEW All Out | Pollock & Thurston 13.08.2025 1:10:11
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down the UFC’s historic $7.7 billion deal with Paramount , which will end the company’s pay-per-view business. We discuss what this means for UFC fans, the promotion’s future, and the broader combat sports industry. We also cover WWE running a Premium Live Event in Indianapolis set to go head-to-head with AEW All Out in September, plus: Judge grants Janel Gr...
CNBC’s Alex Sherman breaks down ESPN-WWE PLE deal | Pollock & Thurston 08.08.2025 36:05
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston present a bonus show as they welcome Alex Sherman of CNBC to break down the WWE deal with ESPN. On the show: The value of the deal for ESPN for its direct-to-consumer service Carriers that are offering the service to cable subscribers, and others that are not WWE splitting its rights across platforms and impact on the fan The status of the UFC rights negotiations...
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