The Things We Know

Truly a “very special episode!”  Join Lisa and Kari who are thrilled to share the mic with their first borns.  Enjoy this mostly fun, and at times touching conversation about enjoying their adult relationships with their parents, now that they no longer live at home.   Are you ready to have less fucks to give?  Download our fabulous guide to releasing the fucks ,...

If you’re like Lisa and Kari, you have probably studied or at least dabbled in learning personality tools and assessments that help you understand yourself and what drives you, in more depth.   This episode is a fun and interesting conversation about the study of Human Design, something both co-hosts are learning about and finding helpful when they apply its strategies to the ways they live a...

Hard to believe this is the 25th episode of The Things We Know Podcast!  Lisa and Kari are here to celebrate, reflect and share with each other their top three favorite episodes so far (spoiler alert–both had trouble sticking to three!) and what they’ve loved and learned along the way. Both women express immense gratitude for the listeners, the suggestions, and the love, and want you to know...

Join Kari and Lisa for their first “celebrity guest” interview.  Alison Gary is a career style blogger who shares fashion advice for “grown-ass women, ” and the woman who wrote the article “What’s the Difference Between Not Giving a Sh*t and Having No F*cks Left to Give?” that inspired an entire TTWK episode earlier this year.  Alison is here to share about her journey, how she stayed tr...

Lisa and Kari are talking about  burnout, and how common it is to hear about it in the workplace, but also with parents, college students, athletes, or really anyone who subscribes to the grind culture of pushing themselves and going above and beyond all the time.  It’s exhausting!  But who is responsible for the burnout?  Both women feel it’s the culture that can cause burnout...

Join Lisa and Kari as they discuss and explain WHY they prefer to replace the word “but” with “and” in most settings. In this lively conversation, you’ll hear how, in their experiences, both women have learned that the word “but” can create an either-or and less collaborative interaction, whereas “and” or “yes, and '' invites more possibilities. You may find yourself noticing all the “but’s” versu...

You are in for a surprising multi-layered treat with today’s episode.  Amy Pickard is our guest on this week’s episode and though she is an expert, multi talented  soul in many arenas, today she is here to enlighten everyone that the most loving thing we can do for all those who love us is to talk about death. With her relatable stories and humor, Amy hopes to normalize this conversation...

Today in part 2 of their series on “Necessary Losses,” Kari and Lisa welcome you into a thought-provoking conversation about impending loss and bringing light and love to an experience we are traditionally conditioned to dread.   The duo welcome guest Beth Cavenaugh, a Certified Hospice and Palliative Care nurse with decades of rich experience caring for patients at the end of their life. Bet...

Join Lisa and Kari for this bonus episode in honor of the Dads they miss and love as well as those with whom they parent!   It’s a bonus Father’s Day recording where you’ll learn more about the fathers who shaped them, and what they loved and appreciated most, growing up as their daughters.   Listen in as Kari and Lisa discover a very special coincidence they didn’t know about before thi...

Today in part one of their series on “Necessary Losses,” Kari and Lisa consider how this term, popularized by psychologist and author Judith Viorst in her book of the same name, applies in our lives and how we grow through these bittersweet moments.   Both women share their own experiences with different types of loss and reflect on the impact and inspiration that followed.   The longer...

Whether you’re ready to change careers, in a place of re-assessing or recommitting to your current career, or just curious what a career change looks like in midlife, this episode is a helpful discussion from multiple perspectives.   Join Lisa and Kari as they break down all the reasons for shifting careers, what to think about, how to go about it, and why you’re never too old to make a chang...

This hour flew by because we LOVE any time we can spend with the amazing Carey Peters.   If you don’t know Carey, you will want to (see links below), because this dynamic woman has already created so much success for herself and other women, and she seems to just be getting started at only 48 years young.   But what you will love most is how honest, open, and vulnerable she is about ever...

Join Lisa and Kari for a colorful discourse on the difference between giving a shit and having no fucks left.   Inspired by an article written by style blogger Alison Gary, the duo have a lot of fun relating and sharing  examples of how they relate  to both ideas, and discuss why they agree with Ms. Gary that it comes down to one important thing: caring.  Find out why both wome...

Join Lisa and Kari as they laugh and swoon their way through this dialog about all the ways they bond through humor and their favorite tunes. Both women discuss how music is essential for mood, energy, self care and self expression, as well as a big part of their families’ way of life.   If laughter is the best medicine, these two enjoy high doses daily, and each shares how humor became and r...

Welcome to this BONUS episode in honor of Mother’s Day!  Lisa and Kari are here to celebrate their two incredible moms by sharing their favorite memories and attributes, and what they learned as daughters about motherhood. The duo then share more about their own motherhood journey; the gifts and the surprises, and how they’d describe themselves as moms.   Find out how they like to celebr...

Time is precious for sure.  Lisa and Kari had a lot of fun chewing on the concept of time, what it means to each of them, how they value and use it, and why prioritizing downtime and good times brought them together.   Listen in to find out all the ways Kari admires Lisa’s relationship with time, hear Kari describe how time blocking will help you create MORE time, and learn why both...

Kari and Lisa are back to share openly all the wisdom they’ve been able to curate from mistakes and blunders.  As humans of a certain age who parent and coach other humans, both have come to really embrace mistakes and even some regrets as our best teachers.  When we know better we do better, as Maya Angelou famously said, and that is certainly true when we have the benefit of hindsight...

Join Lisa and Kari as they explore the important role our ingrained habits play in our lives, and how “habit change” is a big part of what helps anyone reach important goals, personal or professional.  Both women share and laugh about bad habits they don’t intend to break, how some of those “bad habits” may not be all bad, and how they successfully formed better habits along their life journe...

 Lisa and Kari are so excited to share Melissa Kelley and Elijah Selby with you in this very special episode on SISTERHOOD.  Join this foursome as they reflect on the origin of their bond, mostly over text and rarely in person, that each reflects on and celebrates as one of the most important lifelines for being witnessed in recent years that included forced isolation for everyone. ...

Shit happens, to everyone.  In fact, neither of us know anybody who isn’t struggling with something right now.  Including us!  Lisa shares how she was able to find connection and laughter in a year of intense loss, and Kari discusses the value of ride-or-die friends, laughter & music as a caregiver to her son’s unpredictable medical journey.  Join our tender, blunt, compassiona...

Join Lisa and Kari as they tackle the tendency many women have of saying sorry and over-explaining.  Kari addresses when apologizing is appropriate (that may be a great topic for another pod), and Lisa shares how she feels more aligned and empowered NOT being a serial apologizer.  Listen in as they explore and respond to stats and realities about women apologizing in the workplace, and h...

Last week Kari and Lisa reflected on what shaped their younger ideas of an ideal body, and why they now reject “diet culture” and want all women to learn to find their own body’s rhythm and be less obsessed with weight loss and criticizing their bodies–all of which contributes to the “not-enough” struggle.  So this week, the duo discuss body love and body neutrality, and how they are differen...

Join Lisa and Kari as they reflect on their experiences growing up as girls, then as women with respect to body image and diet culture.  Listen as they compare and contrast their childhood influences about what was “ideal” for body type and size, and how they learned to navigate that in a decade that valued “heroin chic” and supermodel bodies. Both Lisa and Kari have experience working in the...

Parenting is a topic both Kari and Lisa love....especially now, because they particularly enjoy parenting the five young adults they brought into the world!  Despite never thinking they wanted to have kids when they were younger, it's clear the joy, laughter and lessons along the way has parenting on the best jobs they've ever had, despite the hard and humbling days.  Join them as they h...

Have you noticed that emotions often feel inconvenient? But have you also noticed that pushing them down and ignoring them doesn’t seem to help? In this episode, Kari and Lisa talk about the importance of taking the time to feel and understand your own feelings so they don’t hold you back from what life has to offer. They also share insight into the positive side of negative (and seemingly inconve...