Karen Wong
The Meaning Code
Mapping the universe through discussions about physics, art, economics, philosophy, and more. The search for meaning through connections from one domain of knowledge to another. Finding the code that connects the substructures of the universe. For video recordings of these podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgp_r6WlBwDSJrP43Mz07GQ Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/klwong43 View my art here: https://karenwongartcom
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AI, Language and Art through the Lens of Coding, Psychology and Perception 31.07.2025 1:31:35
Intersection of AI, Language, and Psychology The hardware and software distinction in language processing. Programming languages build layers of abstraction that relate to human cognition. The Creative Process: Hardware vs. Software Creative process in painting, compared to coding, highlighting the need to transform abstract ideas into tangible forms. This iterative process is similar to scientifi...
an Linguistic Systems: What can we learn from AI about Human Cognition, Memory and Language? 24.07.2025 1:10:00
Michael and Karen consider the theories of Elan Barenholtz, an Associate Professor of Psychology at Florida Atlantic University. His self-description: "I use behavioral and embedded computational approaches (i.e. neural networks running in robots) to study the brain and behavior with the goal of developing a broad theoretical framework of neural function." The videos that Michael and Karen were di...
Why Isn't Your Story Working? Storycraft analysis of the Narrative Path, Puzzles and Anomalies 11.07.2025 1:21:05
Exploring Story Craft and the Intersection of Faith and Hollywood with Justin Wells, filmmaker of documentaries, professor teaching documentary and story craft. On X as @onejwells https://www.youtube.com/@justinsmorningcoffee Seeing Story Structure through the lens of Complexity Theory Justin elaborates on the five-act structure of storytelling, emphasizing the importance of updating a character's...
Infinite and Finite, Call and Response, What We Do Matters 12.06.2025 1:22:03
Matthew Allison discusses the metaphysical and theological implications of infinity plus the influence of dualism and Gnosticism on philosophical discussions. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:30 Matthew on the Infinite 06:00 Heidegger 06:55 Wittgenstein 08:00 The significance of chiasms in biblical texts and how they reflect divine inspiration 14:00 Phenomenology 22:00 Reflections on Hebrews chapter 11,...
The Depths of Time: an Exploration of Julian Barbour's Theory of Ratios 05.06.2025 1:37:45
Karen and Haris explore Julian Barbour's theory of time and the universe, "nothing without ratios" while discussing the role of ratios in both mathematical theories and artistic expression.
AI Researcher and C S Lewis Scholar discuss Language, Randomness, Agency and Integrating Two Worlds 22.05.2025 1:40:45
Balazs Kegl, Head of AI Research for Huawei Paris, meets Annie Crawford, C S Lewis Scholar, to discover the crossovers between AI research and Lewis' concept of transposition of the higher into the lower, also looking at Michael Levin's Bowtie Theory, Chiastic Structures and Modes of Knowing. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro and overview of AI and Transposition 13:17 Exploring AI Text Generating and style...
The Unbelievable Complexities of Music: Lenses, Ancient and Modern 08.05.2025 1:24:12
Drew, with a master's in ethnomusicology and a voracious interest in all things music, joins The Meaning Code today to open up the ancient view of music as relationships, balance, proportion. Through the lens of Aristoxenus and Boethius, we explore -memory as the mother of the muses -the original meaning of Harmonia as proportion and balance -relationships between notes in a melody -principles of...
Metamodernism, Transcending Critique, Optimal Degrees of Freedom and the Return of Board Games 26.04.2025 1:25:17
Brendan Graham Dempsey and Cory Barker help Karen to gain a greater understanding of Metamodernism. Brendan is writer, poet, farmer, and systems thinker. As Director of Sky Meadow Institute, he works on productively bridging the divide between science and spirituality. Cory has a Master of Arts in Social Science and Informatics and is working on a PhD with a research focus on applying big picture...
C. S. Lewis' Essays on Transposition and Bulverism 05.04.2025 1:19:36
Brantley Vosler, host of the Transposition Podcast, joins Karen to talk about C S Lewis' essay of that name, as well as Lewis' argument against Bulverism. Along the way, we dive into the symbolism of Silo! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:00 Exploring the Concept of Transposition 09:08 The Transposition of Ideas in Music 14:26 Vertical Causation and Spirituality 20:50 Themes of Power and Weakness in Scr...
Neal asks: Is beauty an independent force in nature, or is it merely a projection of human values? 21.01.2025 1:36:44
Neal initiated a discussion on the intersection of evolutionary principles and human social phenomena, particularly in relation to organizations and art. He critiqued the dominant scientific perspective that views beauty as a byproduct of natural selection, proposing instead that beauty and design principles are independent evolutionary forces. Neal introduced a dual force model that includes a pu...
Seeing Progressivism through the Rear View Mirror 17.01.2025 1:11:06
Karen Wong and Joy Frimpong engage in a conversation about progressivism, exploring how Joy's educational experiences contributed to her understanding of the ideology. Joy notes that while she can't point to a specific moment of indoctrination, the influence of media and cultural narratives played a significant role in shaping her views. She describes this influence as a "cultural dis-ease" that p...
Tyler on pathfinding algorithms for building education, complex information networks and community. 14.01.2025 1:33:00
Tyler Hollett, a problem-solver and facilitator within Discord communities, shares insights from his journey through various online spaces and the creation of the Metagora project, which aims to streamline educational curricula within a community setting. They conclude by discussing the potential of Tyler's website, which features a dynamic visual representation of available knowledge along with o...
The Narrative Format of Language, Art-making and Consciousness 10.01.2025 1:22:41
Michael has been a regular on The Meaning Code discussing such topics as Owen Barfield, data compression and radical orthodoxy, and today, he joins to consider the meaning and role of narrative. Topics Covered: Exploring Particle Self-Organization The Limits of Objective Perspective in Science and Transcendence Computational Epistemology and Meaning in Tradition Exploring Desires and Identity thro...
Artistic Expression as a Path to a Healed Life: The Art of Lester Rapaport 05.12.2024 1:33:45
Much of this conversation can be enjoyed In podcast form, but if you want to see Lester's art during the discussion, the YouTube format would be better. https://youtu.be/DsLS-vojqt4 A rich dialogue between Karen Wong and Lester Rappaport, focusing on their artistic journeys and the intellectual influences (Jordan Peterson and John Vervaeke, among others) that have shaped their work: The conversati...
The Transforming Power of Constant Surprise: Further Up and Further In 28.11.2024 1:24:52
Brantley Vosler is a worship pastor and joins Karen to talk about the nature of meaning as it relates to music, as a language and as a path forward.
The concept of risk understood through the lens of human cognition and pattern recognition. 21.11.2024 1:35:58
Haris, computer scientist, mathematician and student of the classics, joins Karen to discuss the concept of risk understood through the lens of human cognition and pattern recognition. Timestamps: 00:00 Exploration of Meta-Hypotheses and Platonic Philosophy 07:30 Mount St. Helens and Ecosystem Regeneration 11:30 Quantum Concepts and Universal Fittedness 20:15 Hypothesis Generation and the Nature o...
William Dembski on Complex Specified Information and The No Free Lunch Theorem 24.10.2024 1:16:20
A noted mathematician and philosopher, William A. Dembski is a Founding and Senior Fellow with Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture and a Distinguished Fellow with the Institute’s Walter Bradley Center for Natural and Artificial Intelligence. His most recent books relating to intelligent design include Being as Communion: A Metaphysics of Information (2014), Evolutionary Informatic...
A Sociologist Walks into a Conference and Interesting Things Happen: Encountering Face to Face 15.10.2024 1:30:21
Clara Gaddie, graduate student at University of Notre Dame in Sociology, has been studying This Little Corner for awhile now, and she took the opportunity of attending the Estuary Northwest Conference in Olympia to check it out, encountering Face to Face.
Price as the Cognitive Glue of Multiple Intelligences: Ben Lyon and Marcus Shera on Economics and Biology 10.10.2024 1:32:40
Ben Lyons recently gave a talk on Michael Levin's Academic Channel with his theory that price in economics relates to Levin's theory of bio electricity as the cognitive glue of collective intelligence. Marcus Shera, expert in Austrian Economics, joins us to discuss this theory and how it might apply to the wider view. Timestamps: 0:00 Introductions 04:28 Exploring the Concept of Value in Economics...
Thoughts on the Estuary Northwest 2024 Conference: Encountering Face to Face, Lauren and Kara 08.10.2024 1:02:52
Lauren and Kara were new to TLC and still got up the courage to attend the Northwest Estuary Conference in Olympia, WA. We talk about their experience.
The Foundations of Archdisciplinarity, Cory David Barker, et al: The Arch of Universal Computability 03.10.2024 1:20:36
Karen and Cory David Barker discuss the book "Foundations of Arch Disciplinarity" and the contributions of Brendan Graham Dempsey starting with Cory's early life and his interest in comparative religion and Carl Jung's work, which led him to develop archidisciplinarity, including scopes of inquiry towards a broader discussion on the evolution of human advancement and the integration of disparate d...
Recurring Patterns in the Fractal Nature of the Cosmos 26.09.2024 1:22:25
Michael Bull, author of Bible Matrix and numerous other works joins Tomer Solomon to discuss the question, "Is the chiastic structure a literary device or does it reflect a deep core pattern of reality?" Tomer draws on his knowledge of Arthur Young's Reflexive Universe and A. N. Whitehead's process philosophy to discuss the isomorphisms of these structures that keep showing up everywhere as scale...
Jordan Hall and Michael Levin: Bowtie, Identity, Hyperobject, Synchronicity, Salience and OODA Loops 19.09.2024 59:53
Michael Levin, developmental and synthetic biologist from Tufts U meets Jordan Hall, pioneer of disruptive technologies. What's the crossover? Come along to find out! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:34 Bowtie concept in cognitive systems 08:54 Collective Intelligence and Embodiment 17:15 Markets and Cognitive glue 19:33 Scaling 22:14 Mechanisms of Cognitive Glue 24:47 Identity question 25:12 Mechanisms...
Austrian Economics and Systems Biology: Price, Value and Profit as Scale Invariant concepts 12.09.2024 1:21:37
Can the price mechanism be seen in biology? Signups for Olympia Face to Face conference at: https://estuarynorthwest2024.com Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 23:01 How is the price mechanism influenced by collective intelligence? 27:06 What is the role of subjective value in determining prices? 44:43 How does profit provide different kinds of information compared to prices? 1:03:38 Is inflation an evil for...
Individuality, Subjectivity and Intuition: a Dissection of Maps of Meaning by Jordan Peterson Part 1 05.09.2024 1:17:03
Olena and Karen explore specific paragraphs of "Maps of Meaning" regarding the implications of individuality and subjectivity in Peterson's teachings, highlighting the complex dynamics in personal growth and interaction with others as well as the nuanced relationship between humility and confidence drawing insights from the work of Dallas Willard, and discussing the development of intuition and it...
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