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The Analytics Engineering Podcast
The Analytics Engineering Podcast goes deep with the practitioners and builders leading the shift in how data work gets done. Hosted by Tristan Handy, founder and CEO of dbt Labs, each episode is a conversation with the data engineers, analytics engineers, and technical leaders building in the agentic era. Topics include data transformation, AI in analytics, data architecture, and what it means to work with data at scale. For full show notes and transcript, head to roundup.getdbt.com. To reach our team, drop a note to podcast@dbtlabs.com.
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Developer productivity on GitHub Copilot (w/ Eirini Kalliamvakou) 08.09.2024 53:59
Dr. Eirini Kalliamvakou is a senior researcher at GitHub Next. Eirini has built a career on studying software engineers, how to measure their productivity, how developer experience impacts productivity, and more. Recently, Eirini has been working on quantifying the impacts of GitHub Copilot. Does it actually help software engineers be more productive? Tristan and Eirini explore how to quantify dev...
The rapid experimentation of AI agents (w/ Yohei Nakajima) 09.06.2024 45:55
Yohei Nakajima is an investor by day and coder by night. In particular, one of his projects, an AI agent framework called BabyAGI that creates a plan-execute loop, got a ton of attention in the past year. The truth is that AI agents are an extremely experimental space, and depending on how strict you want to be with your definition, there aren't a lot of production use cases today. Yohei discusse...
Funnel analytics and AI models for event sequences (w/ Misha Panko) 26.05.2024 44:09
Misha Panko has worked in data for a long time, including on high performance data teams at Uber and Google. Today, Misha is the co-founder and CEO of Motif Analytics , a product focused on helping growth and ops teams understand their event data. In this episode, Tristan and Misha nerd out about the state of the art in computational neuroscience, where Misha got his PhD. They then go deep into ev...
From Moneyball to Gen AI 12.05.2024 37:37
Eric Avidon is a journalist at TechTarget who's interviewed Tristan a few times, and now Tristan gets to flip the script and interview Eric. Eric is a journalist veteran, covering everything from finance to the Boston Red Sox, but now he spends a lot of time with vendors in the data space and has a broad view of what's going on. Eric and Tristan discuss AI and analytics and how mature these featur...
Being Pro-Human in the AI Era 21.04.2024 50:09
Barry McCardel is the co-founder and CEO of Hex . Hex is an analytics tool that's structured around a notebook experience, but as you'll hear in the episode, goes well beyond the traditional notebook. We're big fans of Hex at dbt Labs, and use it for a bunch of our internal data work. In this episode, Barry and Tristan discuss notebooks and data analysis, before zooming out to discuss the hype cyc...
The 2024 Machine Learning, AI & Data Landscape (w/ Matt Turck) 07.04.2024 36:22
Matt Turck has been publishing his ecosystem map since 2012. It was first called the Big Data Landscape. Now it's the Machine Learning, AI & Data (MAD) Landscape . The 2024 MAD Landscape includes 2,011(!) logos, which Matt attributes first a data infrastructure cycle and now an ML/AI cycle. As Matt writes, "Those two waves are intimately related. A core idea of the MAD Landscape every year has be...
How the Media Covers Gen AI (w/ Matthew Lynley, Supervised) 24.03.2024 48:15
Matthew Lynley is a bit of a hybrid. He's been a long-time journalist covering enterprise tech, currently in his fantastic AI and data newsletter Supervised , and he's also been a hands-on data practitioner. Matthew has covered the analytics tech stack, but this time Tristan turns the tables to get Matthew's perspective on the rise of Gen AI as a topic in the popular press, what's going on in the...
AI's Impact in the World of Structured Data Analytics (w/ Juan Sequeda, data.world) 10.03.2024 48:18
Juan Sequeda is a principal data scientist and head of the AI Lab at data.world, and is also the co-host of the fantastic data podcast Catalog and Cocktails. This episode tackles semantics, semantic web, Juan's research in how raw text-to-SQL performs versus text-to-semantic layer , and where we both believe AI will make an impact in the world of structured data analytics. For full show notes an...
The End of the Modern Data Stack (w/ Benn Stancil, Mode) 25.02.2024 45:46
Benn Stancil, cofounder and CTO at Mode, returns to The Analytics Engineering Podcast to discuss the evolution of the term "modern data stack" and its value today. Tristan wrote on this idea for The Analytics Engineering Roundup in Is the Modern Data Stack Still a Useful Idea ? For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsletter, head to https://roundup.ge...
Data Mesh Architecture at Large Enterprises (w/ Moritz Heimpel and Ben Flusberg) 08.12.2023 46:07
Moritz Heimpel from Siemens and Ben Flusberg from Cox Automotive have very similar jobs. They both act as stewards of the data strategies at large, complex companies. In this episode, we get into what it's like to collaborate with data at scale. Ben and Mortitz share their experiences adopting a data mesh architecture and what that looks like at their organizations. For full show notes and to read...
Let's Talk About Data Vault (w/ Brandon Taylor and Michael Olschimke) 17.11.2023 44:04
If Data Vault is a new term for you, it's a data modeling design pattern. We're joined by Brandon Taylor, a senior data architect at Guild, and Michael Olschimke, who is the CEO of Scalefree—the consulting firm whose co-founder Dan Lindstedt is credited as the designer of the data vault architecture. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Michael and Brandon explore the Data Vault approach...
Navigating AI Complexity (w/ Jonathan Frankle) 03.11.2023 46:20
Jonathan Frankle is the Chief Scientist at MosaicML, which was recently bought by Databricks for $1.3 billion. MosaicML helps customers train generative AI models on their data. Lots of companies are excited about gen AI, and the hope is that their company data and information will be what sets them apart from the competition. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Jonathan discusses a pot...
Career Growth in Data Roles (w/ Hubspot's Kasey Mazza at Coalesce 2023) 20.10.2023 29:17
In this conversation with Tristan recorded at Coalesce 2023, Kasey Mazza, an analytics engineering manager on the RevOps team at HubSpot, discusses the roles of data analysts and analytics engineers, the importance of building internal data communities, and the evolving landscape of data teams. Watch Kasey's Coalescse 2023 presentation The career growth software development lifecycle . For full s...
Operationalizing Your Warehouse, Streaming Analytics, and Cereal (W/ Arjun Narayan of Materialize and Nathan Bean of General Mills) 06.10.2023 42:23
It turns out data plays a big role in getting cereal manufactured and delivered so you can enjoy your Cheerios reliably for breakfast. We talk with Arjun Narayan, CEO of Materialize, a company building an operational warehouse, and Nathan Bean, a data leader at General Mills responsible for all of the company's manufacturing analytics and insights. We discuss Materialize's founding story, how str...
Roche's Data Transformation Journey (w/ Yannick Misteli) 22.09.2023 40:05
Yannick Misteli is the head of engineering for the go-to-market domain at Roche, a $250 billion multinational pharmaceutical and diagnostics company. Roche was an early supporter of dbt Cloud, and Yannick helped move his team of 120+ engineers to a modern data stack. He always finds a way to push the boundaries to make a large company founded in 1896 incredibly modern and innovative. We wanted to...
The State of Databases Today (w/ Andy Pavlo) 08.09.2023 48:28
Andy Pavlo is a professor of databaseology (he says it's a made-up word) at Carnegie Mellon and currently on leave to build his own company—OtterTune, which uses AI to figure out the settings to get the best performance out of databases. He is one of the preeminent minds on databases and a die-hard relational database maximalist. We talk about the state of databases today, why there are so many sp...
Bring Your Own Data to LLMs (W/ Jerry Liu of LlamaIndex) 25.08.2023 42:53
Jerry Liu is the CEO and co-founder of LlamaIndex. LlamaIndex is an open-source framework that helps people prep their data for use with large language models in a process called retrieval augmented generation. LLMs are great decision engines, but in order for them to be useful for organizations, they need additional knowledge and context, and Jerry discusses how companies are bringing their data...
Ramp's $8 Billion Data Strategy (W/ Ian Macomber and Ryan Delgado) 11.08.2023 49:19
Ian Macomber, head of analytics engineering and data science at Ramp and formerly the VP of analytics and data engineering at Drizly, and Ryan Delgado, a staff software engineer at Ramp, have played pivotal roles in establishing Ramp's data team from the ground up and are spearheading the development of their comprehensive roadmap. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Ian and Ryan share in...
dbt Labs on dbt (w/ Daniel Le) 28.07.2023 30:40
Daniel Le is the CFO at dbt Labs where he has built multiple teams. He is also the former head of FP&A and operations at Zoom, and he helped scale FP&A as the former finance director at Okta. In this conversation with Julia, Daniel shares his view as CFO on the challenges SaaS companies face and the importance of finance teams creating a holistic view of their business. Daniel gives advice to dat...
The Arc of Data Innovation (w/ Bob Muglia, former CEO of Snowflake) 12.07.2023 47:59
Bob Muglia likely needs no introduction. The former CEO of Snowflake led the company during its early, transformational years after a long career at Microsoft and Juniper. Bob recently released the book The Datapreneurs about the arc of innovation in the data industry, starting with the first relational databases all the way to the present craze of LLMs and beyond. In this conversation with Trist...
It's 2023, and Privacy Is Now Fun! (w/ Ian Coe of Tonic.ai + Abhishek Bhowmick of Samooha) 21.04.2023 47:39
Advances in ML have transformed data privacy from a regulatory necessity into an opportunity to improve the work of data people. Synthetic data for modeling + testing is one example of a hard thing that's now easy - and in this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Ian + Abhishek cover many other ways that privacy can actually be a skill that propels your work forward, rather than a mere legal best...
Julia, Pedram Navid + Taylor Murphy Recap Data Council 07.04.2023 42:03
Julia just got back from Data Council in Austin, a conference organized by Pete Sonderling, where lots of startups share what they're building, data practitioners go to learn in hands-on workshops, and of course investors go to spot the next big trend. In this episode, Taylor Murphy (Head of Product & Data at Meltano) + Pedram Navid (Founder, West Marin Data) join Julia to recap the conference and...
Cloud Warehouse Cost Optimization (w/ Niall Woodward + Brad Culberson) 24.03.2023 45:54
Brad Culberson is a Principal Architect in the Field CTO's office at Snowflake. Niall Woodward is a co-founder of SELECT, a startup providing optimization and spend management software for Snowflake customers. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Brad and Niall discuss all things cost optimization: cloud vs on-prem, measuring ROI, and tactical ways to get more out of your budget. For full...
dbt Labs + Transform Join Forces on Metrics (w/ Nick Handel + Drew Banin) 10.03.2023 43:09
Nick Handel, as co-founder at Transform, helped develop the popular open source metrics framework MetricFlow. Drew Banin, a co-founder at dbt Labs, helped build the initial version of the dbt Semantic Layer, which launched last year. Transform was acquired in February by dbt Labs, and in this conversation with Tristan, they talk through their collective plans for the future of the dbt Semantic L...
What Can Generative AI Do for Data People? (W/ Sarah Nagy + Chris Aberger) 24.02.2023 48:29
Sarah and Chris are both at the forefront of bringing the promise of gen AI to our actual work as data people—which is a unique challenge! Precise truth is critical for business questions in a way that it's not for a consumer search query. Sarah Nagy is the CEO of Seek AI, a startup that aims to use natural language processing to change how professionals work with data. Chris Aberger currently le...
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