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State Secrets is a weekly interview podcast featuring Cipher Brief experts and national security leaders.

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The Former Chief of MI6 on Alliances, Adversaries, AI & Aliens 24.02.2026

Sir Richard Moore gets serious with the State Secrets podcast about the impact that intelligence alliances will have on future security, shares what he knows about China and Russia, lays out the ways in which AI and other technologies will impact the intelligence mission and oh yeah, aliens.  We actually asked him about that. Find out what he had to say in this episode of the State Secrets podcast...

From a Bunker in Ukraine: Two Former CIA Officers Share Intel 20.02.2026

Former CIA Chiefs of Station Ralph  Goff and Glenn Corn have spent a lot of time on the ground in Ukraine.  In this State Secrets podcast episode, they share details on what they're seeing there now that isn't making the headlines. Get the raw reporting with Goff and Corn in this special edition of the State Secrets Podcast.

What We Must Get Right In Cyber 09.02.2026

The former head of one of the government's most secret agencies, the National Security Agency, and the former Commander of U.S. Cyber Command, General Paul Nakasone (ret.) sits down with State Secrets to talk about the things he wishes every American knew when it comes to today's cyber threats.

Mark Greaney gets gritty about what it takes to pen the perfect spy thriller 06.02.2026

It's a rough business, from traveling the world scouting exotic locations to knowing the correct position of your trigger finger on your pistol to understanding how to clear a room in a hostage situation. And all of that comes before your fingers even hit the keyboard.  Join State Secrets Podcast host Suzanne Kelly as she welcomes spy writer extraordinaire Mark Greaney to talk about his latest boo...

AI, Infrastructure, and the New Front Lines of National Security 20.01.2026

From cyber vulnerabilities to supply chain risk, Cipher Brief Expert and former National Intelligence Manager for Counterintelligence Sandrea Hwang tells State Secrets Podcast host Suzanne Kelly why modern national security threats are no longer distant or abstract and why protecting data, infrastructure, and innovation now requires whole-of-society cooperation.

What the Writer Found in the Spy Archive 13.01.2026

Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly catches up with former BBC Correspondent and Author Gordon Corera to talk about the spy story he found in the archives: the subject of his new book, The Spy in the Archive: How One Man Tried to Kill the KGB as well as what he's learned from decades of covering the world of espionage and his assessment of MI6's new Chief.

Does 'Marines' Fulfill the Mission for Netflix? 05.01.2026

Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly sits down with Executive Producer Sebastian Junger to talk about the Netflix documentary 'Marines' and whether today's fighting force is the one we need in today's threat environment.

Taking Clancy's Franchise and Executive Power to New Heights 18.12.2025

 In this edition of the State Secrets podcast, we're talking with two men who are carrying one of the most legendary torches in modern thriller history.  Brian Andrews and Jeffrey Wilson are the powerhouse duo behind the tier one series and are the authors of the latest novel in the Tom Clancy, Jack Ryan universe - Executive Power.  Host Suzanne Kelly talks with them about a covert team wiped out...

Inside Russia's Secret War: A Conversation with Sean Wiswesser 09.12.2025

Join Suzanne Kelly as she delves into the world of Russian intelligence with former CIA operations officer Sean Wiswesser. Discover the intricacies of Russian operations, the impact of propaganda, and the ongoing secret war led by Putin. Gain insights into the challenges faced by the Russian people and the global implications of state-sponsored actions. Don't miss this eye-opening episode of the S...

Peace Through Strength in an AI Era: Inside the Reagan National Defense Forum 01.12.2025

What does "peace through strength" mean in 2025—when AI, drones and great-power rivalry are reshaping the battlefield? In this episode of  State Secrets , Cipher Brief CEO Suzanne Kelly sits down with David Trulio, President & CEO of the Reagan Foundation and head of the Reagan National Defense Forum (RNDF), to unpack how one of the nation's most influential defense gatherings is responding to a f...

Getting Candid with Gen. Stan McChrystal (Ret.) on Character and Controversy 26.11.2025

In this episode of State Secrets, Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly talks with retired four-star Gen. Stan McChrystal, who served as Commander of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) and is author of the new book,  On Character: Choices That Define a Life , about what character really means in an era where everything feels political, whether intended or not.

Information Warfare The New Frontline 24.11.2025

Former NSA senior executive Mike Driscoll joins Cipher Brief's Brad Christian to dissect how America - and its allies - win or lose in the cognitive domain. From post-9/11 SIGINT dominance and its pitfalls to today's OSINT revolution powered by AI, Driscoll details why democracies keep ceding the narrative, what Oct. 7 revealed about messaging at speed, and how to rebalance "the exquisite" with th...

Lithuania's Foreign Minister: 'Western Restraint Invites Russian Aggression 18.11.2025

Lithuania's Foreign Minister Kęstutis Budrys joins Cipher Brief CEO Suzanne Kelly in Washington with a blunt warning: Western military restraint is encouraging, not deterring, the Kremlin. Budrys explains why Lithuania is raising defense spending to more than 5% of GDP by 2026—the highest in the democratic world—and pushing NATO toward offensive deterrence and denial "from the very first inch." He...

Two Generals and a Cyber Warning for America 12.11.2025

Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly talks with two former directors of the National Security Agency and former Commanders of U.S. Cyber Command about the cyber threat from China, and just what they think Americans need to know. Retired General Tim Haugh – a new Cipher Brief Expert, spoke recently about the threat with 60 Minutes.   He is now also working with investors and teaching at Yale...

White House Director: We Need a 'Kill Web' for Modern Warfare 20.10.2025

Shawn Chenoweth has one of the most fascinating titles in government, Director of Cognitive Advantage at the National Security Council. Sean explains the concept of cognitive advantage, the challenges of measuring success, and talks about the 'Kill Web' concept, which highlights the interconnectedness of information and cognitive processes in modern warfare.

Steve Blank has Mapped the Pentagon 13.10.2025

Silicon Valley Entrepreneur, Author and Stanford Professor Steve Blank has published a phone book of sorts for the Pentagon - at least when it comes to the trickier issue of understanding how the Pentagon buys things – which is a crucial component of future U.S. national security. Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly talks to Blank about his new 'phone book' for businesses trying to sell int...

China's Gray War on America 29.09.2025

As tensions rise globally, so does the risk of conflict. Poland's Prime Minister has recently warned that Poland is closer to war than at any time since WWII.  And while Russia's war against Ukraine escalates with no clear path to peace in sight, other incidents such cyberattacks and drone incursions across NATO airspace are fueling growing uncertainty among European leaders. At the same time, U.S...

Drones, Deterrence, and Overplaying Putin's Hand: with Gen. David Petraeus 16.09.2025

Former CIA Director General David Petraeus (Ret.) doesn't mince words: Russia's 19-drone incursion into Polish airspace was no accident — it was a deliberate test of NATO's resolve. Joining The State Secrets Podcast from Kyiv, Ukraine, General Petraeus lays out Ukraine's   breathtaking innovation in drone warfare, noting that units now fly thousands of missions daily, with entire regiments springi...

The Secret U.S. Counter-Narcotics Mission 10.09.2025

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth visited a warship off the coast of Puerto Rico this week, telling Marines and sailors that they are on the "front lines" of a critical counter-narcotics mission. Exactly what that mission is – remains murky but the statement itself was a clue to the administration's intent. The U.S. has been beefing up military assets in the region and last week, a U.S. military a...

Inside Emerging Threats: Former CIA Leader Sheetal Patel on Drones, Tech, and America's Adversaries 02.09.2025

In this wide-ranging conversation, former CIA senior leader Sheetal Patel warns about the vulnerabilities the U.S. faces from evolving drone threats, drawing lessons from Ukraine's successful deep-strike operations against Russia. She highlights the lack of clear authorities, resources, and interagency coordination for defending against small drone swarms in America. Patel also stresses the crucia...

Does the CIA Have a Trust Problem? 17.07.2025

In a recent opinion piece published in  The Cipher Brief , former senior CIA Executive Mark Kelton suggests that the country's leading intelligence organization has a trust problem both with policy makers and the public. One component of that problem that Kelton argues poses an existential threat to the Agency, is leakers.  Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly talks with Kelton – who oversaw...

Mission CIA: Mapping Beijing's Path to War 10.07.2025

Taiwan has launched its largest annual military exercise ever - amid growing concern that China is on the cusp of launching a military invasion. Many national security experts see a Chinese invasion as inevitable. A recent piece published at the cipher brief.com focuses on what Washington will do when it does happen. But first, it's the Intelligence Community that is on the front lines - charged w...

A Practitioner's Guide to Cocktail Tradecraft 23.06.2025

Writing a book was something former senior CIA Officer Rob Dannenberg never thought he'd do, but as he started reflecting on the ways he and his former colleagues would celebrate the successful recruitment of a new agent or the end of an operation that he couldn't talk about, he started thinking about the cocktails he and his colleagues would order to mark the occasion.  Dannenberg recruited forme...

Hitting the Panic Button on Rare Earth Minerals 18.06.2025

Rare Earth minerals might not be at the top of your panic list today but when it comes to U.S. national security, it's an issue that has the potential to have the greatest impact on both our way of life  and our future security.  It was on the agenda at the recent G7 meeting where world leaders agreed to prioritize a joint strategy to protect critical mineral supply chains.  But is it too little,...

Ground Truth on Ukraine's Tech War 11.06.2025

Since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Ukrainians have used every resource available to fight back. From aid packages and weapons systems acquired from western allies to mobilizing every sector of society to bring innovation to the fight, Ukraine has stayed alive largely because of its adaptations of technology and its ingenuity on the battlefield. As part of a special del...

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