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Episode 98: From OpenStack to Kubernetes, extreme transparency at GitLab, tech startup marketing, with Melissa Smolensky 16.04.2025

Whitney and Coté tour through a couple decades of tech infrastructure history with Melissa Smolensky, whose marketing career spans Rackspace, GitLab, CoreOS, and the CNCF, among other places. They explore the OpenStack/Kubernetes evolution, how "radical transparency" actually functions in corporate settings, and the shifting landscape of tech marketing—from thought leadership to the changing role...

Episode 97: The Business and Ethics of Open Source, with Emily Omier 02.04.2025

In this episode, Whitney and Coté talk with Emily Omier, a consultant specializing in open source strategy and product management for businesses. They discuss the initial reactions and learning curve of new tech entrants to open source, the advantages and potential disadvantages of building a business around open-source software, and the ethical considerations in this space. Emily also goes over h...

Episode 96: Learning, teaching, tech certifications, and napkin culture in Singapore, with Mumshad Mannambeth 22.03.2025

In this video, Coté and Whitney talk about tech education and learning with Mumshad Mannambeth. There's talk about certifications, but also how teaching online works and what it's like when it scales up to millions of people. Plus, Coté tries to figure out how to get access to more napkins. You can also watch the video of this interview form if you prefer that kind of thing. Check out KodeKloud an...

Episode 95: Success in Tech, Content Creation, & Corporate Influence, with Hazel Weakly 06.03.2025

In this episode, Whitney and Coté talk with Hazel Weakly about the unexpected success of content, the influence of corporate interests in open source, and the importance of emotional vulnerability in the tech industry. Hazel shares her experiences transitioning as a trans woman in tech, how her interactions changed post-transition, and the need for emotional connections and support. They also get...

Episode 94: Adding more condiments to the 7 layer networking burrito, with Marino Wijay 20.02.2025

In this episode, Whitney and Coté interview Marino Wijay, Coté finally gets to the bottom of why networking has so many layers. Why do we keep adding new layers and frameworks instead of just fixing the ones we have? They also talk about the challenges of platform engineering, the importance of empathy in tech, the difficulties of integrating multiple layers in tech stacks, the essential role of e...

Episode 93: 10x People, AI Trends, and Career Management, with Richard Seroter 06.02.2025

Join Whitney and Coté as they talk with Richard Seroter from Google about the myth of the 10X developer and his perspective on hiring and managing tech talent. They also talk about the significance of learning and AI in the tech industry, the importance of communication skills, valuable resources for staying updated in tech, and Richard's personal strategies for maintaining a robust reading habit...

Episode 92: What went wrong with PaaS, and many other topics with Brian Gracely 23.01.2025

In this episode of Software Defined Interviews, Coté and Whitney host Brian Gracely, co-host of the Cloudcast podcast and head of portfolio strategy at Red Hat. They discuss the process of gathering and reporting cloud news, the evolution of PaaS, and the pros and cons of working at small startups versus large companies. Also: career advice, the importance of communicating value within organizatio...

Episode 91: Learning to learn, with Sasha Czarkowski 09.01.2025

What’s it really like to do all that DevOps-y transformation at companies? That’s what we talk about this week with Sasha Czarkowski…mostly. We also discuss learning how to learning, metrics, staying sane in chaotic systems and change, breaking presentation rules, Louisville, Kentucky, and Coté’s (odd?) dislike of the open spaces format. You can also watch the video of this episode if you prefer t...

Episode 90: Community management, event nightmares, and domestic Tupperware diplomacy, with Katie Greenley 26.12.2024

Katie Greenley shares her experiences managing events and community programs like the CNCF Ambassadors. Coté, Whitney, and Katie also discuss career development, managing a community team, and the delicate art of introducing cereal decanting into the home. Checdk out Katie in LinkedIn , and the CNCF Ambassadors program . Special Guest: Katie Greenley.

Episode 89: How platform engineering is different than DevOps, plus, narwhal teeth and spider digestion, with Viktor Farcic 11.12.2024

In this episode, Whitney and Coté talk with Viktor Farcic, Developer Advocate at Upbound, about platform engineering, the evolution of DevOps, project managing a content creation engine of one, and the virtues of imperfection. Also, the strategic avoidance of asking for directions, or, really, talking with people in general. Find Viktor in YouTube , LinkedIn , Bluesky , and his website . Special G...

Episode 88: Platform Engineering and UK Digital People, with Abby Bangser 28.11.2024

As if platform engineering and expat'ing in the UK weren't enough, Whintney and Coté discuss the forgotten technology of business cards wih Abby Bangser. Check out Abby in LinkedIn , and Kratix the platform engineering project from Syntasso . Also, check out the CNCF Platforms White paper and Cloud Native Maturity Model . We had video recording problems during this episode, so this is from the bac...

Episode 87: Platform Engineering, AI, and Community - Whitney's KubeCon NA 2024 Adventures 25.11.2024

Whitney is back from KubeCon and shares what she saw. We talk about platform engineering, Salt Lake City's vibe, AI, and observability, among other things. We wrap the episode with tips for maximizing attending conferences. Also, memories of Arby's ads. Whitney's KubeCon talks: Choose Your Own Adventure: The Observability Odyssey Panel: Exploring eBPF Use Cases in Cloud-Native Security

Episode 86: Open Source Money Ethics, How Analysts use AI, What Even is an Industry Analyst, and Advanced Chicken Nugget Diplomacy, with Rachel Stephens 13.11.2024

In this episode, Whitney Lee and Coté dive into the insights of Rachel Stephens from RedMonk about the world of being an industry analyst. They discuss experiences from working as an analyst, the balance between qualitative and quantitative analysis, the challenges and misconceptions surrounding open-source business models, and the impact of AI on the analyst profession and beyond. They also discu...

Episode 85: Kubernetes Cost Controls and Washing Horse Blankets, with Phil Andrews 31.10.2024

Whitney and Coté talk with Phil Andrews, field CTO at Cast AI, about cost management and optimization, the nuances of Kubernetes, coin-operated laundromats, and farm life. The conversation touches on the differences between automation and FinOps, how sales and engineering intersect in cloud software, and Phil's unique experiences - from managing a laundromat and a hobby farm to evolving in the tec...

Episode 84: Tech recruiting from both sides of the table, with Sidney Miller 19.10.2024

Whitney and Coté talk with Sidney Miller about tech recruitment. They talk a lot about the process from both sides: people hiring and people looking for jobs. Plus, some thoughts on working at Neiman Marcus. Find Sidney in LinkedIn . You can the video of this interview as well if you're into that kind of thing. More details: They explore effective strategies for both the hirer and the job seeker....

Episode 83: Whitney Lee 02.10.2024

Whitney Lee's career path has been all over the place, from artist, wedding photographer, waiter, and now world-renowned devrel in the cloud native world. This episode kicks off the reboot of this podcast, Software Defined Interviews. Whitney and I (Coté) have been planning to start a podcast for a year or so now, and it's great to start. We'll be putting out interviews every two weeks with people...

Misaligned Incentives Episode 4: You get what you pay for - compensating tech staff is often done poorly 17.07.2020

<p>We discuss compensation, particularly how people in the IT department ("developers," etc.) are so disconnected from the actual business that compensating them based on business performance is near impossible. Not good if you're an IT person and like money.</p> There's other types of comp. then money, obviously, and those are fine too. In particular, we disc...

Episode 3: Improvement requires fear, or, digital transformation by crisis and fear 06.07.2020

<p>People in large organizations avoid improving for improving's sake. They're very rarely proactive in transforming. Instead, it seems that management in most large organizations only act, and change, when they fear competition and failure. "Everyone" knows this is a bad strategy, and yet "everyone" does it. Perhaps we should embrace that...

Episode 2: Outsourcing, SIs, and other "others" 31.10.2019

<p>We discuss outsourcing IT.</p>

Misaligned Incentives Episode 1: Who forget to invite "The Business," to this kubernetes PoC? 11.09.2019

<p>Journey Through the Business Bottleneck, part 1.</p> Join Rick and I as we try to find this elusive thing called "The Business." We lay out a theory we've been talking about: while IT has been improving or, at least, can improve, the business side of the house isn't showing up to do anything with CLOUD and AGILE and THE DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION. Why's this the case? Do toothpaste peop...

Monolithic Transformation 09.09.2019

<p>Large organization are desperate to become “tech companies.” They drool at these tech companies ability to grow and change quickly. Despite mastering agile over the past 20 years, IT as a whole is too slow and unreliable. “It’s the culture,” everyone says. Changing culture for a team of 10 people is easy - changing a department of 20,000 developers is another challenge entirely.</p>...

Episode 82: Chris Aniszczyk on starting Open Source Foundations 09.07.2019

Chris Aniszczyk is the CTO of the CNCF. We discuss how he got into open source, what it's like to work at Twitter and how he helped start the CNCF. Plus, Chris gives us an overview of the different kinds of CNCF projects and offers advice on how to get started with Kubernetes. Show links: Hatching Twitter GORILLA.BAS IBM Extreme Blue Eclipse Marketplace Eclipse Foundation CNCF Charter The universa...

Episode 81: Adam Jacob on saying Goodbye to OpenCore 08.04.2019

Matt and Brandon interview Adam Jacob the co-founder of Chef. We discuss Adam's career, what led him to start Chef and Chef's recent decision to open source 100% of its Software. Plus, Adam give us some tips on Dungeons & Dragons and transitioning from being a founder to an executive. Links Goodbye Open Core — Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish We need Sustainable Free and Open Source Communities Su...

Episode 80: Jeff Meyerson on starting the Software Engineering Daily Podcast 11.02.2019

Jeff Meyerson is the host of Software Engineering Daily . We talk about his career and what led him to start a daily tech podcast for software engineers. We also talk about current trends in cloud computing and Jeff recounts his career as professional poker player. Topics: Darknet Diaries Chartbreakers Episode Who Is Michael Ovitz? Where to find Jeff Software Engineering Daily Jeff Meyerson @the_p...

Episode 79: Version control, DevOps, Code Reviews, Semantic Merging, Spanish Startups, & Plastic SCM 15.01.2019

Version control has changed a lot over the past 15 years: we’ve moved from a centralized to a distributed model at the basic level. But the practices people follow have changed and grown as new methodologies like DevOps and continuous delivery have relied on version control for operational stability and reliability. In this interview, Coté talks with Plastic SCM ’s Pablo Santos to get the low-down...

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