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SaaS Therapy
Get comfy. It's time for "SaaS Therapy," with industry veterans Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo – the podcast for customer-facing teams in SaaS. Casey and Todd leverage their experience working between software vendors and their clients to help you master your SaaS customer relationships. They dig into the complexities of client relationships, offer expert insights, and share proven strategies for overcoming common challenges. It's not just a podcast—it's a masterclass in nurturing and enhancing your SaaS customer connections.
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Mastering Customer Onboarding in SaaS with Gary Yau Chan, Founder @ Clarity Inbox 01.07.2025 47:48
Summary In this episode of SaaS Therapy, Todd Kirk interviews Gary Yao Chan, co-founder of a startup, Clarity Inbox. They discuss the importance of customer onboarding calls, the transition from sales-led to product-led growth, and strategies for improving user experience and retention. Gary shares insights from his experience conducting hundreds of customer calls, emphasizing the value of persona...
Unlocking SaaS Success: Insights from Season Four with Todd Kirk and Casey Trujio 24.06.2025 35:31
In this episode of SaaS Therapy, hosts Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo reflect on the key themes and insights from the past season. The conversation highlights memorable guests and their contributions, as well as the challenges faced by B2B SaaS companies in serving diverse customer needs. Looking ahead, they are excitement for the upcoming season and the opportunity to delve deeper into the habits a...
The secrets to effective customer communication, with Irwin Hipsman, Founder of Repetitos 17.06.2025 39:55
In this episode of SaaS Therapy, Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo discuss the critical importance of maintaining accurate customer contact data in B2B SaaS companies with guest Irwin Hipsman. They explore the common pitfalls organizations face regarding data management, the necessity of effective segmentation, and the role of cross-functional teams in improving database health. The conversation conclu...
Investing in Customer Success: A Strategic Move with Kelly Hall, CCO @Quickbase 10.06.2025 45:23
In this episode of SaaS Therapy , Kelly Hall, Chief Customer Officer at QuickBase, discusses building a customer-centric culture through emotional intelligence, vulnerability, and human connection. She emphasizes delivering real value, fostering trust, and understanding both customers and employees as individuals. Kelly also shares her journey as a woman in tech and highlights the importance of cu...
The Future of Customer Education in SaaS, with Todd Kirk and Casey Trujio 20.05.2025 33:28
On this host-only episode of SaaS Therapy, Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo discuss the challenges and opportunities within customer education in SaaS organizations, the disconnect between customer education teams and their impact on business outcomes, emphasizing the need for radical change in how customer education is approached. They understand the importance of collaboration with customer success...
Unlocking customer insights in SaaS, with Lauren Oswald, UX and market researcher 13.05.2025 45:27
Hosts Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo are joined by UX and market researcher Lauren Oswald to explore the critical aspects of understanding customer needs in the SaaS industry. They discuss the importance of gathering context for data interpretation, overcoming internal biases, and the necessity of humility and trust in research. Lauren emphasizes the significance of user experience over mere functio...
Navigating the evolving landscape of CS with Madison Hall, Director of CS at RingCentral 06.05.2025 49:09
Join Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo today for a conversation with Madison Hall, Director of Customer Success at RingCentral. Madison shares her journey from an individual contributor to a leadership role, emphasizing the importance of customer success in driving revenue and retaining customers. Learn more about the evolving landscape of customer success, the challenges faced by teams, and the strate...
The two-hump problem in Customer Education with Dave Derington, host of CELab podcast 29.04.2025 53:06
This is part 2 of a conversation between Todd Kirk and Dave Derington! Find part 1 on Dave's podcast CELab: https://customer.education/podcast/episode-155-todd-kirk-brainstorm-the-two-hump-problem/ In this episode, they focus on the 'two hump problem' that represents the gap between scaled and high-touch learning with customer education. They explore the importance of motivation, the role of admin...
Understanding certifications in Customer Education with Debbie Smith, President of CEdMA 22.04.2025 44:23
Hosts Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo welcome Debbie Smith, president of CEdMA, to discuss the evolving landscape of customer education and the importance of certifications. Debbie shares insights on how customer education can drive business outcomes, the role of certifications in enhancing partner success, and the legal implications surrounding certification programs. This conversation also touches...
Scaling CS starts with tech touch, with Joe Di Grande, top CS industry voice 15.04.2025 43:26
In this episode of SaaS Therapy, Todd Kirk and substitute co-host Debra Wilson chat with Joe Di Grande, a former VP of Customer Success turned CS consultant. They explore the concept of "tech touch" in customer success, emphasizing its importance in scaling businesses and enhancing customer experiences. Joe provides practical advice on when to adopt digital touch strategies and how to ma...
The CSM mindset shift from relationships to revenue with Noah Little, CSM coach 08.04.2025 49:53
In this episode Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo bring on Noah Little, an experienced Customer Success Manager coach, who shares his journey and insights into the evolving role of CSMs. Noah discusses the importance of focusing on revenue generation rather than just relationship management, introducing his Revenue Impact Framework. He emphasizes the need for CSMs to adapt to changing market conditions...
Building your LinkedIn personal brand with Amanda Nielsen, Partner Sales Manager @Box 18.03.2025 46:17
This episode contains some explicit language. Join Todd, Casey and Amanda to discuss the importance of LinkedIn for personal branding and thought leadership. Amanda is the founder of Thot Leader Labs and shares her vulnerability professional journey. Join the conversation to explore the balance between personal and company branding, best practices for thought leadership, and strategies for growing...
What you need to know about channel partnerships 14.03.2025 4:00
Join us for a quick summary about channel partnerships! Be sure to listen our previous episode on channel partnerships with Max! Resources Connect with Casey Connect with Todd...
The power of channel partnerships with Max Alschlager, Sr Manager DX @CDW 11.03.2025 45:02
In this episode of SaaS Therapy, hosts Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo have a conversation with Max Alschlager, Senior Manager of Digital Experience at CDW. They explore the dynamics of channel partnerships in the SaaS industry. They discuss the benefits of leveraging established relationships for faster scaling, share success stories of SaaS vendors, and address common pitfalls in partnerships. This...
When Sales, CS & Product work together with Lucas Lovell, VP of Product @Paddle 04.03.2025 48:09
Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo chat with Lucas Lovell, VP of Product at Paddle. Listen to dive into the critical role of product management in SaaS and the importance of empathy, stakeholder relationships, and a structured prioritization framework for product development. Join us to discuss the intricacies of product prioritization, emphasizing the balance between value and effort. They explore the...
What AI can't do (and why that matters) with Roger Mendez, Global CS Leader @Cisco 25.02.2025 44:24
Join Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo for a conversation with Roger Mendez, a leader in customer success and operations at Cisco. They discuss the implications of AI in business and education. Roger shares insights from his recent experience at Cornell University, where he explored AI strategy and its potential to enhance human capabilities. Listen to explore the intersection of AI and human behavior...
Mastering post-sale success in SaaS with Chiraag Kapoor, Principal @Radian Capital 18.02.2025 48:21
In this episode of SaaS Therapy, Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo welcome Chiraag Kapoor from Radian Capital to discuss the importance of post-sale metrics in SaaS businesses. They explore key metrics such as retention, bookings, and ARR, emphasizing the need for customer success teams to understand their impact on overall business health. The conversation also highlights the significance of creating...
Surfing the waves of customer education 11.02.2025 33:21
In this episode, Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo explore the importance of recognizing opportunities in customer experience through the metaphor of surfing. They discuss how to embrace a mindset of continuous learning, the significance of building trust with customers, and the need for cultural adaptation in business practices. Takeaways Taking time off can lead to fresh perspectives. Data should be...
Check-In: How Shopify created a culture of humility 07.02.2025 3:02
Get a quick introduction to this past Tuesday's episode with Samantha Murray. If you haven't listened to that episode, go listen to it!
Break down silos & reduce customer friction with Samantha Murray, Ex-Shopify 04.02.2025 43:36
Join Casey Trujillo and Todd Kirk live from Silicon Slopes recording studio in Utah for an interview with Samantha Murray, Customer Education guru. Sam Murray discuss the critical role of customer education in SaaS organizations, drawing on Sam's extensive experience at Shopify. The conversation highlights the challenges of organizational silos and the necessity of collaboration across teams t...
How you can 6x your adoption with guest Ed Powers, CS consultant 29.01.2025 32:59
In this conversation, Todd Kirk, Ed Powers, and Casey Trujillo discuss the importance of change management in driving user adoption and success in organizations. They explore the human aspects of change, effective communication strategies, and the role of customer success managers in facilitating smooth transitions. The discussion emphasizes the need for awareness, desire, knowledge, ability, and...
Are data & AI your partners or your enemies? with Jordan Morrow, Sr VP of Data @AgileOne 14.01.2025 44:42
References: Nexus - Yuval Noah Harrari Stolen Focus - Johann Hari Deep Work - Cal Newport Be Data Literate 2nd Edition - Jordan Morrow The AI Awakening - Dr Mazhgan Tavakolifard Mastering the Data Paradox - Nitin Seth Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo talk with Jordan Morrow, a leading expert in data literacy and AI transformation. The conversation explores the importance of understanding data literacy...
CS Skills: Presenting to leadership with Kristen Hayer, CEO @Success League 07.01.2025 49:06
Welcome to Season 4 of SaaS Therapy. In this episode of SaaS Therapy, Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo welcome Kristen Hayer, founder and CEO of Success League. Listen to explore Kristen's entrepreneurial journey, the importance of leadership and ownership in customer success, the role of influence and accountability in leadership, and best practices for presenting to executives. Kristen shares he...
Happy holidays: Our 2025 predictions & Season 3 thoughts 23.12.2024 28:48
In this special holiday edition of SaaS Therapy, hosts Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo reflect on the key insights and themes from Season 3. We'll take you back to some of our favorite conversations from this season such as the analogy of the Winchester Mystery House to illustrate the complexities of learning management systems, and the significance of understanding customer experiences. The host...
Bridging the gap with marketing and CS with Marley Wagner, CS & Marketing Consultant 17.12.2024 45:26
Join us for a great conversation with Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo and guest Marley Wagner, a digital customer success consultant, to explore the evolving role of customer success in the SaaS industry. They discuss the importance of balancing automation with human interaction, the need for cross-functional collaboration between marketing and customer success, and the significance of understanding...
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