University of Utah School of Medicine
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What is your purpose? The RealMD podcast strives to create a space that helps medical students find and maintain their highest purpose in medicine. These episodes are the daily, weekly reminder you need to keep believing in your purpose.
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Become Yourself to Lead - Dr. Tom Hurtado 13.08.2025 57:23
In this episode the tables have turned and I had the privilege to be interviewed by second year students and RealMD facilitators, Elise Vandamme and Poi Gilmore. We talk about my journey into academic medicine and how RealMD and the RISE conference came to be. A central message about knowing yourself being the foundation of leadership development came through. I wasn’t expecting to see such a stro...
S. 6 E. 0 Season Intro with Tom & Cael 06.08.2025 2:27
Welcome to Season 6 of the RealMD Podcast! In this episode Tom & RealMD Podcast editor Cael Campbell discuss what's to come this season.
S. 5 E. 20 Don’t go it Alone - Trisha Enriquez (Peds) Marina Knysheva (IM) 29.05.2025 46:02
Recent grads, Trisha and Marina met at the University of Utah as undergrads and became fast friends during medical school. There is something to be said about finding just one person who is in the trenches of shared experiences and when the layers of life inevitably bring on challenges, that friendship provides much needed support and encouragement. I have enjoyed watching Trisha and Marina’s jour...
S. 5 E. 19 When Change Chooses You - Dr. Dale Hull (Ob-Gyn) 21.05.2025 43:10
The humble beginnings of RealMD began with our student leaders identifying speakers they felt could share their personal journeys into medicine authentically. Over the years, these sessions have covered a wide range of physician experiences. The talks are powerful and vulnerable. Students have told me countless times how impactful it is to hear from physicians in a space that makes them feel like...
S. 5 E. 18 Navigating Motherhood in Medicine - Dr. Jenn Handrop 07.05.2025 52:05
With Mother’s Day happening this month we wanted to do something special. In this episode, I am joined by guest host, Dr. Jenn Handrop. As a mother who just finished her doctorate, Jenn’s research hits very close to home. At our medical school we have more mothers and parents almost 30% compared to the national average of about 6%. Dr. Handrop takes a closer look at how mothers are navigating medi...
S. 5 E. 17 Return To Purpose - Hank Shipman (PM&R) 02.05.2025 51:09
Hank Shipman is currently in his final year of physical medicine and rehabilitation residency. We started working together in RealMD when he was in medical school. I want to talk about two things in this episode. First, my core desire underneath everything I do is to serve as a witness. This happens in my work with students, with my team, and with the broader communities I get the privilege to wor...
S. 5 E. 16 Lead a House 23.04.2025 39:15
In this episode, medical students, Payton Erickson and Brooke Austin talk about their leadership roles as House Representatives, what it is like building out a house community, and creating meaningful events. We also talk about what leadership opportunities are worthwhile and how making sure the things you spend your time on have direct connection to your purpose. This is an important habit to for...
S. 5 E. 15 Build a House 09.04.2025 59:42
Brooke Johnston is a pediatric palliative care physician. She also serves as a house director for little wild horse and a Faculty Co-Director of Coaching in PIF (Professional Identity Formation). Brooke also plays the banjo, writes songs and loves doing improv. In this episode, we reflect on her journey into academic medicine, living by her values, and her passion for helping people develop. For B...
S. 5 E. 14 Stay Connected 20.03.2025 27:37
For Shi and Cecilia Liang, maintaining a strong connection as a family is the goal but it is not easy. They have 2 young kids and are both building out their careers. I think it’s important to remember there is no perfect template when navigating the messiness of life and at the end of the day supporting each other and staying connected is all that matters. What I liked about this conversation is...
S. 5 E. 13 Things Don’t go as Planned 05.03.2025 39:37
Elise Vandamme is a first year medical student who is on a mission to normalize the challenges associated with getting into medical school. We talk about overcoming the dark days when she didn’t get into medical school the first time around and how she has turned that into a desire to help premed students with their personal statements. The reality is that in our professional pursuits, things rare...
S. 5 E. 12 Come Back to Yourself 19.02.2025 44:07
Dr. Mary Murphy started out in Emergency Medicine and is now practicing Hospice and Palliative Care. Her professional journey involves threading life’s experiences together in unexpected ways. In this episode, we talk about how her husband started medical school as she started residency and how their lives turned upside down when they lost their daughter. During their most dire moments, a caring t...
S. 5 E. 11 - Storytelling 05.02.2025 43:25
For a few years, The Spencer Fox Eccles School of Medicine has hosted storytelling events with students, staff and faculty. We do this because it helps us grow together as a community. Each event starts with dinner, stories, and some live music in between stories. Last spring, we held an event at the Utah Museum of Contemporary Art and the theme was about intersections. Intersections represent a c...
S. 5 E. 10 Support your Support 22.01.2025 42:58
The topic of this episode is to discuss what support looks like during medical school. Specifically, how do people in committed relationships get through the medical journey and come out the other side, it does take a village of support. Caden Snow and Trevor Ence were kind enough to talk about what it is like to be in a supportive role with their spouses while they are in medical school. But we a...
S. 5 E. 9 Be Honest and Kind 08.01.2025 47:55
In our career pursuits, sometimes we think we need stay in one lane but doing so doesn't provide variety. Yes, we need certain experiences to pursue medicine but not at the expense of the freedom to explore interests regardless of where they come from. Dr. Brian Good is a pediatric hospitalist at the University of Utah and also the Phase II Director; having launched a new way of clinical train...
S. 5 E. 8 Building Pathways for Student Leadership 23.12.2024 23:47
This past November at the AAMC‘s national conference in Atlanta, I had a chance to facilitate a student and resident panel about leadership development programs. It was great to hear directly from learners about what they want, what is working, and what they feel like they still need. In this episode, we kept the conversation going at the University of Utah Health booth at the conference. You’re g...
S. 5 E. 7 Drive Your Career 20.12.2024 32:02
Dr. Wayne Samuelson is the former Dean of the medical school and alum graduated in 1980. He retired in 2023 and is currently serving a mission for his church with his wife Marianne in Ghana. I have wanted to capture this moment as he looks back a his career and time as leader. In this episode, Wayne talks about what drives a career forward. His reflections are all relational in nature - lead with...
S. 5 E. 6 Be Honest with Yourself 04.12.2024 45:10
Maria Poluch came to medicine after pivoting from a promising career as an engineer. Underneath the surface, her desire to serve people and her underlying interest in medicine could not be denied. So she made the jump to medicine and with it a commitment to be honest with herself throughout out the process. Honest about the struggle, honest about what where to find joy, honest about when to take a...
S. 5 E. 5 My CV of Failures - Dr. David Morton 27.11.2024 44:32
Dr. Morton is a distinguished anatomy and neurobiology professor at SFESOM. In addition to his celebrity presence as The Noted Anatomist on YouTube, Dr. Morton became a Fellow of the American Association for Anatomy in 2021 and has been awarded numerous teaching awards — the UU Distinguished Teaching Award among them.
S. 5 E. 4 Be Open to the Unknown 20.11.2024 41:29
Tracy Bumsted specialized in pediatrics and currently serves as Associate Dean for the MD program Oregon Health and Sciences University. In this episode we talk about the moments when she stepped out into the unknown, tried something new, and risked failure to do the work she believes she is here to do. Tracy talks about how this cycle has played out multiple times in her career and I think we nee...
S. 5 E. 3 Get out of your own way 06.11.2024 42:09
According to Dr. David Morton, the greatest moment for growth is following a setback. In a recent RealMD lunch session with students, rather than talk about successes, he shared his “CV of failures.” Because for him, that is where the most valuable lessons are. But more than just accepting failure, what do you do after the fact? You fell on your face, you weren’t expecting to and now what?! Dr. Mo...
S. 5 E. 2 - Listen Forward 23.10.2024 39:50
Sri Radhakrishnan matched into general surgery last March. We had an opportunity, post Match Day celebrating, to talk about his identity as a leader and how it informed his specialty choice. A core aspect of Sri’s leadership style is the desire to create and support community. He talks about realizing a need for deep connection when his class started medical school during the pandemic. To me, Sri...
S. 5 Ep. 1 - Align Your Head and Heart 09.10.2024 42:02
Adam Sharp is CEO of Galvan Health and his journey to this point is uniquely his own. His path started out as a business undergrad, playing on the U of U basketball team, and an unexpected pivot to medical school. Residency led to a surprising interest in research coupled with a desire to change the way patients access and use data to better inform their decisions. Adam’s journey reminds us that t...
S. 4 Ep. 16 - Hold Onto Your Stories 07.06.2024 57:50
Dr. Brian Stagg is an Ophthalmologist and clinician scientist. In this episode, we talk about his experience during residency, feeling happy with his specialty, and still burning out. Brian talks about how in that moment, he started asking himself important questions that led to a life changing self-reflection process. This conversation reminded me how important it is to remember and hold onto you...
S. 4 Ep. 15 - Give Yourself Grace 25.04.2024 34:47
Sadie Robinson is in her second year of emergency medicine residency, she is a former RealMD facilitator, and U of U Alum. In this episode we look back at her time in medical school, the process of choosing her specialty, and formative experiences that helped her grow. We also look forward to her current role and the things that bring her meaning. Throughout Sadie’s journey she has noticed the val...
S. 4 Ep. 14 - Take Care of Yourself 18.04.2024 57:16
Dr. Beth Vukin has spent the last 20 years as a pediatric hospitalist in an academic setting. Her medicine, as she puts it, is talking to people and listening to the words they use. Lately, this has translated into her own podcast called Real Talk with Kid Docs. We had such a great conversation and I was struck by her story of being undiagnosed while practicing medicine. She went from having a cle...
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