No Small Thing Podcast
No Small Thing
A weekly podcast hosted by Mace Mooney and Scott Gronholz that tries to help listeners live a less certain and more curious life. Life is big and complicated and there truly is "no small thing"; everything is worth talking about. Welcome to the conversation!
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205: True/False Self 03.04.2023 1:23:58
We springboard off the topic of what is a true self? What is a false self? Inspired by the work of D.W. Winnicott we explore how spontaneous gestures might give insight into a sense of our true selves. As with any NST episode, this dive into Winnicott's thoughts on the true/false self is meant to give an impression that sparks creativity in you!
204: Cheesy vs. Corny (WE ARE BACK BABY!) 03.04.2023 1:25:47
WE ARE BACK BABY! No Small Thing is back with a drop of five episodes, each just as random as the next! We take the mission statement of being less certain, and more curious to heart as we playfully unpack the difference of being cheesy vs corny as well as where these words come from, which makes for the best diss and which one we relate to most. Who knew talking about cheesiness could be so fun!!
203: The Enneagram (Nines w/ Scott and Daniel) 20.02.2023 1:39:26
This just might be the best episode on enneagram nines we've released yet...or the most vague, meandering, soupy, floaty conversation we've ever about nines...OR...AND...it might just be a fun conversation between two nines talking about nines! Either way we know you'll enjoy Scott and Daniel (two nines) chatting about what it means to be a nine while always giving the side eye to Ian Morgan Cron....
202: The Enneagram (Growth and Stress) 07.02.2023 1:04:09
Growth and stress are prominent themes that often come up in enneagram conversations. We certainly have had our fair share of conversations about what this means. In this episode we have another curious chat with our friend Daniel Keyes in an effort to get a little more clarity AND little bit more wonder and uncertainty about what these concepts are trying to get at.
201: Enneagram: Doing the Work? 05.01.2023 1:25:04
We are back with another enneagram episode! In this episode we talk about what it means to do "the work" of the enneagram and if that is even possible. We continue to use our pod to be curious about the enneagram and being slightly cautious about landing on any one mode of interpretation or modality....or choosing to follow any one teacher. Daniel is our resident "expert" and has put more time int...
200: Multiplicity (in dialogue with Dr. Pamela Cooper White) 13.12.2022 41:27
Inside each of us are different "selves" that we can spend a lifetime learning to get curious about. In this episode we revisit the idea of the "other within" and multiplicity by engaging with the work of Dr. Pamela Cooper White from Union Theological Seminary. Are you trying to make room for different aspects of yourself that you might have repressed? Are you interested in being more hospitable t...
199: The Enneagram: A Check In 10.11.2022 32:07
After a weekend of recording enneagram content Mace and Daniel check in on what we've learned so far and where we're going. This conversation is a synthesis of some of the concepts that were discussed in our episodes for the last few weeks! We invite to come on this journey with us of reactivating our curiosity in the enneagram!
198: The Enneagram (Hexads and More) 31.10.2022 1:03:26
Another enneagram episode with our in house expert Daniel Keyes! As many of know we have spent over 5 years researching and talking about the enneagram. The more we learn the more our views shift and evolve. We are trying to model out a curious posture and in some ways letting ourselves start over. In this episode Daniel unpacks the hexad types (1,2,4,5,7, and 8)!
197: The Enneagram: Personality Maybe? 11.10.2022 1:03:53
Our new season on the enneagram continues with a deep dive into personality and type structure! In this episode Daniel and Mace being curiously and playfully trying to unpack what we mean when we talk about "personality" and start to think about it through the different enneagram types.
196: The Enneagram- The Return 03.10.2022 1:08:52
We have had a very long, complicated, fun, playful, mysterious, authentic, chaotic journey with The Enneagram over the years. In some ways it is a public example of how to engage with something curiously. Recently we'e been inviting our dear friend Daniel to help us wrap our heads around The Enneagram in some new ways and there is so much to learn! In this episode we take a second pass at trying t...
195: The Enneagram (Essence and Instincts) 26.09.2022 1:26:19
no small thing is back?!! we've got another conversation with scott (he/him) and daniel (they/them), exploring how these enneagram ideas we hear about - passion, essence, ego, instinct, our type and wing, trifix if you're into that - how they all fit together. daniel has been studying misinformation in enneagram theories for the past few years, and on our instagram @nosmallenneagram, they share th...
194: 4 year Anniversary Special! 23.05.2022 1:26:03
For 4 years we have been up every Thursday night to have a curious conversation! If you have been on the journey with us we are so grateful! In this episode we spend some time reminiscing about the past by listening to clips from previous episodes and reacting to them. We had a blast and we hope you do to! Here's to another 4 years of curious conversation!
193: Energy 02.05.2022 1:25:25
As usual we choose a random topic that seems to be catching our attention lately and we have a conversation! A month or two ago Mace made a playlist for Scott that culminating with an inspiring song on ENERGY! Also in a meta sense with Scott and Mace haven't had as much energy for the pod as they would like because of their outside commitments (school and work). Where does on energy come from? Wha...
192: Ambivalence 11.04.2022 56:54
Ambivalence is something that all of us experience probably every second of our day. And its also one of those words that, upon further inquiry, get misused and misunderstood. Of course we need to take some time to chat about it and of course we wanted more out of this conversation, but it was a good start. And heads up! This convo got cut off somehow during recording so you don't get the juicy co...
191: Style 3 03.04.2022 1:20:15
Welcome to our THIRD conversation on fashion! This one is pretty low key, but there was so much to catch up on! We address how our fashion has been evolving, how quarantine impacted our fashion choices, and what we think it ALL MEANS! There will definitely be more to come in the future, but this is restarting convo!
190: The Enneagram Reset! 22.03.2022 1:39:00
Welcome to the Enneagram! It has been well over a year since we halted are pattern of talking about the enneagram every 5 episodes. It was a necessary break because we came to a profound realization that The Enneagram was way more complicated and mysterious than we had appreciated...even though did really appreciate how mysterious and complicated it was! One of the many things we started to realiz...
189: Introspection w/ Taylor Emmaus McGhee 14.03.2022 1:45:55
We could not be more thrilled to introduce you to one of our favorite people- Taylor Emmaus! We connected with Taylor Emmaus through our online affirming youth group and they have been volunteering with us for well over a year. They are a wise soul who has so much good stuff to share! They chose the topic of INTROSPECTION and we gave this word/ topic the full NST treatment!
188: Awkwardness 08.03.2022 1:15:18
Ironically our conversation about awkwardness gets awkward because we can't seem to agree on what awkward is! Scott gets lost talking about things he experiences as awkward only to discover that he's mostly just talking about being a jerk! Luckily Mace gets us back on track with some clear and humorous thoughts on the subject! We loved our time deep diving Grae but we are so pumped to be back to o...
187: Play 2 01.03.2022 1:02:01
We are back!!! After months of temporarily focusing on Grae by Moses Sumney we are choosing to have our first conversation about one of our favorite topics: PLAY. Have a spirit in play in conversations, relationships, work, and life in general has tremendous mental health benefits and could be a cure for a lot of the rigid toxic certainty many of us experience. But what is play? And how do we get...
186: Bless Me/ Before you Go 14.02.2022 1:33:17
And now we come to the end...for now. Our Moses Sumney takeover is winding down friends! We plan on returning for a true finale recap episode on about 3 months, but this episode deep dives the last two tracks on Grae. We share about the impact this album has had on us and we vibe out to Before you Go. Thank you for joining us on this journey! It has a wild wild ride journeying into the grae with y...
185: Lucky Me/ And so I Come to Isolation 07.02.2022 1:33:25
And so we come to ......the second to last episode of our Moses Sumney series! We're winding down with some quite calm reflective energy in Lucky Me this week....a sweet nostalgic acceptance...co written by James Blake Lucky Me is simultaneously filled ache and gratitude. And So I come to Isolation is another spoken word that rounds out and book ends the album with some final reflections on what i...
184: Me in 20 Years/ Keeps me Alive 31.01.2022 1:44:25
Many songs on Grae could be called the "emotional climax"...and Me in 20 Years would be a top contender. Its followed by a wonderful light release of a song called Keeps me Alive. The one/two combo of things songs is deep existential anxiety combined with a light playful come down that helps recenter the listener and grounds them for the final journey of this outstanding album. We have two episode...
183: Two Dogs/ Bystanders 24.01.2022 1:46:25
We are now on the second "disc" of Grae and we start with two JUGGERNAUTS this week. Two Dogs and Bystanders are both full of intense longing and lament and draw listeners into a more intimate type of inner torment. After the big bang of the first half of Grae we now enter into a more moody, somber, emotional, reflective state. There is an ache and worry to these songs. Important stuff for the ove...
182: Neither/ Nor/ Polly 18.01.2022 1:46:34
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181: Colouour/ also also also and and and 10.01.2022 1:29:12
The Moses Sumney deep dive continues with an exploration of two very different tracks. Colouour is a vibrant, energetic breathe of fresh air with some very personal and tender questions from Moses (perhaps posed to himself) about how to present oneself and what colors to use. Also also also and and and (according to Mace) is the thesis statement of the album and features soundbites from Taye Selas...
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