Intrinsically Ordered

Why are young catholics sent to conversion therapy? Does the Catholic Church discriminate against gay men? In today's episode, I tell my story of being rejected from becoming a monk for being gay - or as they like to say: experience same-sex attraction. My co-hosts Colin (raised FSSP) and Ben (discerned a vocation) help me explain where the church stands on this issue. 00:00:00 - Introduction...

Father Mike Schmitz (celebrity catholic priest) uses chairs to demonstrate teleology, and then makes anti-gay arguments from Theology of the Body. This approach fails in so many ways, and I don't think chairs are our best proof of teleology. I (a gay ex-traditional catholic apologist) give my reaction to his wild takes on teleology. This is the talk that convinced me when I was much younger t...

Let's dive deep into the Catholic Church's controversial teaching on contraception, its roots in outdated philosophies, and the societal impact of enforcing such dogma. From Humanae Vitae to the rise of "Theology of the Body," we'll critically examine how these doctrines shape attitudes toward birth control, women's rights, and personal autonomy. With years of theolog...

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered , we sit down with a former Sedevacantist seminarian who opens up about his journey into one of Catholicism's most radical branches, his time in seminary, and the personal struggles that led him to leave the church altogether. From exploring the allure of certainty in faith to confronting deep-seated identity issues, this raw and eye-opening conversati...

The Catholic Church offers no solution for queer folks who follow its teachings, besides celibacy. There is no proven, approved way that a catholic can life their life following church teaching without getting in trouble with the church or laity. Nobody can agree on what to do except wait for heaven. 00:00 - Intro 00:25 - Background Documents 01:41 - You Can't Be a Priest 03:44 - You Can&apos...

In this thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Barefooter, a minister in the Anglican tradition and a trans individual, to discuss their unique journey of faith and identity. From a childhood immersed in Protestant traditions to grappling with gender and sexuality, our guest explores the challenges of aligning personal truth with theological tradition. Join us for an honest and insightful con...

Join us as we dive deep with Brandon Robertson, a leading voice in progressive Christianity, to explore the intersection of faith, identity, and sexuality. From his journey out of evangelicalism to becoming a queer pastor and theologian, Brandon shares his challenges, insights, and the liberating message of his new book, Queer and Christian . Whether you're deconstructing your faith or seekin...

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered , we sit down with an independent Catholic priest from the White Robe Monks of St. Benedict. Discover the story of how he found his calling in the independent Catholic movement, the challenges he faced as a queer person of faith, and the incredible work being done to bring compassion, inclusion, and spirituality to underserved communities. Whether you'...

In this deeply personal and thought-provoking episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, we’re joined by Kevin, who shares his journey of growing up in a strict Southern Baptist community while navigating his identity as a gay man. Kevin opens up about his struggles with faith, the emotional toll of reconciling religious teachings with his identity, and how he ultimately found peace and authent...

The FSSP (Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri) is a little known group of traditionalist who lead me to trying to join an ancient order of Carmelites and never see the outside world again. These two groups have held onto the customs, beliefs, and practices of the high-medieval Catholic Church. Here's a psychological reflection on how high-control religions work. 00:00 - Intro 01:04 - Why I...

In this powerful episode of Intrinsically Ordered , we sit down with Dave, whose spiritual journey took him through Novus Ordo Catholicism, traditionalist Latin Mass communities, and eventually to leaving religion altogether. Dave opens up about being radicalized as a teenager, navigating his sexuality within strict religious frameworks, and ultimately deconstructing his faith. This candid convers...

Join us on the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast as Dr. Julia, a clinical psychologist based in Colorado, discusses the complex intersection of faith, sexuality, and mental health. Dr. Julia explores the history and controversies surrounding conversion therapy, reparative therapy, and reintegrative therapy while offering compassionate advice for individuals and families navigating these challenges. Wi...

This episode dives deep into the story of Father Jordan, a gay Catholic priest who recently celebrated his last mass before leaving the ministry. Through this personal and emotional account, we explore themes of faith, resilience, community, and the challenges of leaving a high-demand religious role. Joined by a supportive group of former clerics and laypeople, we reflect on the impact of religiou...

I left the Catholic Church after spending years as a zealous apologist and having discerned the priesthood. I now live an openly gay life, have a wonderful boyfriend, and have never been happier. This is my story told in detail. I'll have a future video on my philosophical/theological reasons I left after pursuing a degree in theology. To join our discord community for $1, check out my patreo...

I've left religion entirely, but Justin from  @EmptyChairsHome has found peace in reconciling his catholic faith and his sexuality. I hope Justin's thoughts can help those of you who choose to stay in religion. You can find Justin on all social platforms as @emptychairshome and at https://empty-chairs.org. To join our discord community for $1, check out my patreon:https://www.patreon.com...

Colin is working on a video on spiritual warfare in conservative/traditional catholicism, so we sat down this morning to talk through what spiritual warfare is, how it control peoples, some psychological ideas of why it takes a hold on folks, how it's used to influence politics, some internal consistencies, and some other things. Yes, this video is directly attacking church teaching and is qu...

In this powerful and candid episode of The Intrinsically Ordered Podcast , we sit down with Andrew, a former Catholic with deep roots in the faith, now part of the Anglican Church. Andrew shares his story of growing up in a devout Catholic family, grappling with his identity as a queer man, and his transformative journey navigating homophobia within the Church. 0:00 Intro 1:45 Andrew’s Catholic Up...

Trent Horn, a catholic apologist for Catholic Answers and host of the Counsel of Trent show, published a talk recently at Young Americans for Freedom called '7 Questions Liberals Can't Answer.' I hopped on a call with Veronica from the Leave Laugh Love podcast and my two friends Ben & Colin to respond to some of Trent's questions on socialism, gay marriage, contraception, t...

Therese was born into a FSSP parish. She has many good memories, but also many bad memories from her time: an overbearing mother, purity culture, being in the closet, and catholic dating. But now, Therese is living her best life after deconstructing - experiencing the world, practicing witchcraft, and falling in love. Today, Colin and I sat down with Therese to hear her story and thoughts on life....

The Catholic Church promises 'true peace' to all who follow Him, but what do you do when you don't? What if your existence and wellbeing run contrary to this path that contains the 'fullness of the truth?' Today, I had a longer discussion with my friend Colin (gay, raised FSSP) and Astronaut (gay, former cleric) about my last video 'The Catholic Church Doesn't Kn...

I sat down with Chris Dowling to hear his story of loosing his job after coming out, why he still stays religious, how he lives out of the fruits of the spirit, and his upcoming two-year anniversary of being married. To connect with Chris and hear more of his work, make sure to follow him on Instagram and Facebook. To support interviews like this, consider supporting my work on Patreon and gain ea...