Congratulations Pine Tree

 This week we went to see 8 Hours of Work at the Wattis. We had to infiltrate, take an elevator, and take in about 900 hours of video. We both get emotional in different ways. We also appreciate Julia Bryan-Wilson and Italo Calvino. The music in this episode is by  Tommy Guerrero CCA Wattis Institute Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

 This week we talk about several alternatives to traditional (expensive) art schools. We ask the big questions and speculate about the big answers. Maysoun has a cold but she is going to be ok. Thank you to the listener who wrote in about the co-op! The music in this episode is by  AL GHARIB Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

 This week we talk about ICE (oink, oink, PIGS!) We also hear back from the listener with the upside-down painting. We premiere a new email address!  The music in this episode is by  aivi & surasshu The Arab Film Festival Freewrite KAWS: FAMILY Altman Siegel Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We love you and miss you so much, Margaret Tedesco. This episode was originally posted  February 10th, 2016 . The music in this episode is by  XUXA SANTAMARIA [2nd floor projects] (the Glen that Margaret talks about is Glen Helfand) Kevin Killian Eileen Myles Dennis Cooper Gina Lollobrigida Gregory's Girl - Dancing Scene Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

 This week Maysoun and Kate take on the big questions! When should artists compromise their integrity? How can we communicate well in difficult situations? What the hell is going on? All this and more on Congratulations Pine Tree. The music in this episode is by  Tommy Guerrero Who Has a Say in the Flood of Public Art Coming to San Francisco? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for mo...

This week we have a glorious conversation with artist and educator, Kija Lucas. We talk about misplaced plant species, photo glitches, getting down to business, mental health, and the dramas of installing wallpaper.  The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero Take care of your brain! Kija Lucas To Bright Disturbances Black Cube Gallery Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more infor...

This week Kate has a rolicking conversation with artist, Isaac Vazquez Avila. We talk about not-roosters, pyramids, Salt Lake City, painting, and eating digital spiders. It's a hell of a chat! The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero Isaac Vazquez Avila Part 2 Gallery Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

 This week we finally put it all out there.  The intro and outro music for this episode is from  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape 2nd floor projects Paramount Theatre Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we talk to Amanda Guest, founder of  BFF.fm . We learn about all kinds of radios stuff. Other topics covered include toxic sound tech guys, witch hysteria, women in STEM, and so much! We get the best from Guest.  The music in this episode is by  AL GHARIB BFF.fm SF Community Music Center Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

 This week Katherine Ross Ward joins Kate since Maysoun is on shore leave. Topics covered include babies, the DMV, quilts, gallery food, and censorship! Come take a ride with two Katherines. Plus a baby! The music in this episode is by  ConsciousMind Routed West  at BAMPFA Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we talk to writer and arts-related-person, Kelly Pendergrast! We talk about breakfast, disasters, and the heart of the United States. We still have a fucked up mic but Kate makes the best of it.  The music in this episode is by DJ FLEXAHOLIC Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Carrie Hott and Kate found another tape if you can believe that! What secrets does it hold?! Good luck to Carrie on her voyage to Indiana! We love you!!! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week Kate went to a show at Slash. We try to figure out what to make when you don't want to make anything. We talk about aliens, but are not impressed by them. We figure out France. Maysoun talks about the bike ride for MECA (the Middle East Children’s Alliance) and you should join in on  The music in this episode is by DJ Daria Slash Middle East Children’s Alliance https://www.naughtygi...

This week Kate has gone to an immersive theater experience in the Tenderloin. Maysoun goes to see art in the Tenderloin. Everyone goes to the Tenderloin. Plus coffee. The music in this episode is by Deerhoof Compton’s Cafeteria Riot  (the play) Tenderloin Museum Screaming Queens 'It's erasure': One of San Francisco's most celebrated sites is at a crossroads Oakland Liberation Center Hosted on...

This week we talk about corporate partnerships, peep shows, and brain fog. Maysoun refuses to accept Kate's mnemonic devices. Maysoun also demands a clap track. The music in this episode is from  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we face off with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross. We play the newlyweds game, talk about what we're reading, and relitigate the dramas of the L-word. Also hotdog costumes. The music in this episode is by  AL GHARIB Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

 This week we talk about our new nemesis. We also talk about handwriting analysis, whether Kate is a bitch, and how old Maysoun's cats are. We also try our best to talk about fucking Bay Area arts and culture.  The music in this episode is by  RITCHRD Art Yap podcast Big Five  personality test - shoutout to BaubleRob Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informat...

Maysoun finally takes a stand. She also went to a gallery called TNT. We talk about all kinds of strings and webs. Kate wrote a poem but does not read it.  The intro and outro music for this episode is from  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape TNT Art Lab Bathers Library Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we talk about difficult holidays, some shows that are coming up, and why Maysoun is mad at Kate. Of course the age-old debate about whether cats are Palestinian comes up again. Of course they are Palestinian, but the detractors still can't get onboard. The music in this episode is by  aivi & surasshu Bass and Reiner Adobe Books Chris Grunder The Good Ship Dodo The Origin of Cats...

 This week Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán blesses the podcast with his experience and wisdom! We obviously talk about cats. We also explore bipolar disorder, Watts Towers, grad school, PAINTING, agave in Tepatitlán (which Kate struggles to pronounce), regrets, perseverance, and so much more. The music in this episode is by  aivi & surasshu Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán: Brown Eyes from Russell...

 People are making and evaluating various applications this week! Juries are out! Applications are in! How can we begin to make sense of it?! The music in this episode is by  DJ Daria Get those apps into the woodchipper! Fleishhacker Foundation Real Time and Space Bemis Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

 This week we come to terms with the giant naked woman sculpture that has been forced onto us by some kind of techno-libertarian burner foundation. We also talk about starting projects with Joan. Kate FINALLY discusses her favorite art experience of the year so far, a performance at the Lab by Alex Tatarsky.  The music in this episode is by  SPELLING Nobody Asked for This  by S...

 This week we're talking about a bunch of shit going on. We get confused about a game night. Maysoun refuses to enter legal agreements. We decide who is on the cutting edge. The music in this episode is from the  BDS Mixtape We salute you! Theresa Hak Kyung Cha: Multiple Offerings  at BAMPFA If you see an artist... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

 This week Maysoun is back from Japan. We hear all her stories from the seat of the seat of empire. Snow monkeys! Stationary stores! We also discuss people we're mad at, 12 step programs, and art show things. The intro and outro music for this episode is from  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape The SF public library is  accepting submissions for review for Bay Beats local music...

This week artist and gourmand, Mistu Okubo joins Kate for a rousing talk about overdoing it with THC lemonade, friendship among men, and graduate school regrets. Have fun trying to figure out what's behind the bleeps. The music in this episode is from the  BDS Mixtape Mitsu Okubo  on IG Mitsu Okubo  MERCH The Basement Hoarding Disorder: What It Is, Causes, Symptoms & Treatm...